Petrol Price start a price war

Yes, I have to agree with both you MAZCAN and ANDREW why the plan is doomed. Also have tried many diet plans, not one worked. However over the last 7 months with a change of attitude I have lost a little over 30 kg.
Started at 118 kg now 86 kg and maintaining. No pills or potions and not that hard if you want it bad enough.

Hi Andrew,

As a fairly big user of email, I get this stuff all the time. It sounds good on the surface, but investigate and you will see the flaws.

Would love to find a 'magic' solution to the fuel prices, but I'm afraid those huge multinationals have it all over the consumer, particularly in this area.

Cheers, Dave

Sounds like a great idea but as said would be too hard to get enough people to participate for all sorts of reasons.
On a slightly differently subject Darian, your avatar (photo) of the bees looking for water reminded me of a family camping trip up the WA coast. Middle of a long dry spell and the local bee population were obviously getting a little desperate for water. We were all sitting around enjoying a meal and busy keeping the little pests at bay when one decided he had hit the jackpot and flew up the leg of one of the BIL shorts. A sudden screech and rapid removal of shorts revealed the offending insect had scored a bulls eye, if you will excuse the pun.
I don't intend going into the sordid and painful details but his good wife was later heard to remark "I wonder if the pain could be reduced and the swelling left"

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And to highlight my point, the following is a news item (just) out today, if there was so much money to be made from refining oil into petroleum products they’d be opening refineries, not closing them. Another step towards having to rely on imported petroleum products....

Cheers, The Landy

MELBOURNE, April 12 (Reuters) - Oil giant Royal Dutch Shell plans to close the smaller of its two refineries in Australia and turn it into a fuel terminal as it can no longer compete with Asia's mega-refineries, the company said on Tuesday.

Shell said the 75,000 barrels per day Clyde Refinery in Sydney -- which accounts for about 10 percent of Australia's 750,800 barrels per day capacity -- would need a large investment, including a maintenance turnaround scheduled for mid-2013, if it were to continue running.

"The proposal to convert Clyde into a terminal is consistent with Shell's strategy to focus its refining portfolio on larger integrated assets, and to build a profitable downstream business here in Australia," Shell vice-president Andrew Smith said in a statement.

Shell's Clyde and Geelong refineries supply about a quarter of Australia's petroleum product needs, according to the company's web site.

The company's downstream portfolio in Australian also includes more than 800 Shell branded service stations, a lubricants blending plant and 16 terminals.

It has an exclusive arrangement to supply around 600 Coles Express convenience stores and petrol stations, owned by Wesfarmers, around Australia.

Tuesday's announcement follows Shell's sale last year of its 200 petrol stations, pipes and storage and a 17 percent stake in New Zealand Refining Company for $490 million.

It has also been selling refineries in Europe due to weak refining margins and falling European fuel demand.

Last week it agreed to sell its Stanlow refinery in England for $350 million to India's Essar Enegy.

Australia's refiners, including Caltex and ExxonMobil, have long talked about shutting or consolidating plants to help improve their margins, but changes have been slow.

ExxonMobil was blocked by the competition watchdog from selling its petrol stations to Caltex in late 2009 and ended up selling 295 service stations on Australia's east coast to convenience store chain 7-Eleven Australia for an undisclosed sum.

The Clyde shutdown marks the second refinery closure in Australia in the face of a refinery margin crunch and stricter fuel standards. ExxonMobil mothballed its Port Stanvac plant in Adelaide in 2003.