batteries and chargers

Submitted: Tuesday, Apr 12, 2011 at 19:56
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Hi, we have a Xantrex True Charge 2 20A (this is 3rd one in 2 years as the other 2 malfunctioned, kept going and didn't turn off, this one has worked well for 10 months) and 2 US 2200 batteries in our van. Batteries are under 2 year old.
We havn't used our van much in last 2 years, while stored we leave battery charger turned on and it's been working ok, hardly ever comes on as nothing is being used, however in the last week the charger comes on and stays on for 1-2 hours after a light is on for a few miinutes................ seems like the batteries are not holding the charge, if we turn the charger off for a couple of days the charge in batteries drops even though nothing is being used. Has anyone else had these problems and how long should batteries last? We also have a solar panel but as van is in shed it isn't suppling much to batteries.
Thanks.....
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Reply By: Notso - Tuesday, Apr 12, 2011 at 22:07

Tuesday, Apr 12, 2011 at 22:07
It's normal for batteries to drop a bit in voltage after removing them from the charger.

A standard lead acid will drop to around 12.8 volts or so.

If the previous chargers malfunctioned then they may have over charged the batteries and damaged them.
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Reply By: Battery Value Pty Ltd - Tuesday, Apr 12, 2011 at 22:14

Tuesday, Apr 12, 2011 at 22:14
Hello Chris & Don,

since these are wet/flooded type batteries, I hope the charger is set to match this type.
Is the charger set to two or three stage mode?
What light comes on?
What made the other two chargers cark it so early - any response from the dealership in this regards - they didnt' just replace the unit 2 times without asking any questions?
Have you checked the electrolyte level in the batteries?

Sorry can't be of much help without additional info.
You're most welcome to contact me directly through the form on our web site which can be found in my profile.

cheers, Peter

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Reply By: Dennis Ellery - Tuesday, Apr 12, 2011 at 22:42

Tuesday, Apr 12, 2011 at 22:42
I have a Xantrex True Charge 2 20A.
It hasn’t missed a beat in 3 years – though I don’t have it connected permanently in circuit.
If you do leave it permanently in circuit and there is no significant current drain from the battery it will go into a regular charge cycle every 3 weeks. (See your ops manual for details)
I use it as a top up device, when the solar panels don’t keep up, or the batteries have been over discharged, and for equalisation.
It’s a pretty versatile unit with Bulk, Absorption, Float and Equalisation modes and about 6 different voltage settings.
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Follow Up By: Who was that again? (Vic) - Thursday, Apr 14, 2011 at 14:10

Thursday, Apr 14, 2011 at 14:10
Have one in our KK too Dennis, and like you ours has performed very well since fitting in 2006. I usually keep it powered to keep the batteries up to scratch. I have changed only one of the batteries of the ten fitted too. Great performance I reckon,
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Reply By: oldtrack123 - Wednesday, Apr 13, 2011 at 09:29

Wednesday, Apr 13, 2011 at 09:29
Hi Chris
Get your batteries checked ,posibibly one is faulity pulling the other one down.
When you get that sorted ,make sure your charger is set for the battery type
Peter
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Reply By: ob - Wednesday, Apr 13, 2011 at 16:21

Wednesday, Apr 13, 2011 at 16:21
Hi Chris & Don

An interesting question. I have been wondering if I have been doing the right thing with my van battery charging method.
My van has 2 105AH AGM Federal batteries with a 30 amp Smart Charger.
The switches on the unit (2) enable selection of wet cell or gell (I have it set to gell) or float voltages of 13.2, 13.5, or 13.8v (I usually leave it on 13.5v)
The van doesn't get used anywhere near enough, only about twice a year for a couple of weeks so sits in a shed for the rest of the time. The volt meter in the van sits on about 12.8 volts after a full day of charging and a rest period of about a day. After that I put it back on charge when the voltage drops to 12.4 minimum. It takes about 3-4 weeks to drop that low. As far as I know the analogue meter consumes a small amount of current along with natural parasitic losses.The batteries are about 18 months old, both replaced at the same time
Question....should I just leave it on charge full time or continue as I have been doing?

Thanks for any info

ob
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Follow Up By: Gronk - Wednesday, Apr 13, 2011 at 23:55

Wednesday, Apr 13, 2011 at 23:55
In an ideal world, all batts like being fully charged, so being on charge all the time ( providing its a good 3 stage charger ) is the ideal..

Having said that, I don't trust a batt charger to do it's thing 24/7 all the time ( it's only my suspicious nature ), so I turn it off after a couple of days and put it back on after approx 3 or 4 weeks ( voltage usually down to approx 12.5 or 12.6 )

But if you are a forgetful sort of person, you're better off leaving it on charge all the time......
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Reply By: energy marty - Friday, Apr 15, 2011 at 14:34

Friday, Apr 15, 2011 at 14:34
Check your battery charger - it should have an AGM setting. If not, gel is the safe setting for AGM batteries.

As mentioned above, if one of your batteries is shot, it will be slowly killing the other. So if you're going to replace the batteries, you need to do both at the same time. May pay to get your batteries checked first...

If you are in the market for batteries, Fullriver do great AGM batteries and their pricing is reasonable as well.

Regards

MH
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Reply By: Member - Chris & Don H (QLD) - Friday, Apr 15, 2011 at 15:16

Friday, Apr 15, 2011 at 15:16
Thanks everyone for all the great advice, we had to go away for a few days (not in van) so will check everything out with batteries and charger when we get home...Thanks again
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