Patrol or Cruiser cab chassis???

Submitted: Monday, Apr 18, 2011 at 22:03
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Gday Everyone,

I'm in the market for a 2nd hand patrol or cruiser ute. Been looking now (and saving... and dreaming) for a few months and am in no hurry as i plan on running the truck to the ground and want to make the right choice.

So far ive narrowed it down to a pre 2006 4.2 coil cab patrol, and a similar cruiser with leaf rear. just dont know whether to fork out the extra hard earned for a Toyota or settle on a lower km Nissan with a few accessories.

I will be using the car durin the week around town with a full alloy canopy and work gear (roughly 500-700kg) and hopefully getting away on the weekends onto some tracks and beach with a cape trip next year on the cards.

Ive had a look at all the specs and they look pretty similar with fuel economy etc. but would love to know some real life details and ideas???

Cheers, Dave

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Reply By: Member - Joe n Mel n kids (FNQ - Monday, Apr 18, 2011 at 22:11

Monday, Apr 18, 2011 at 22:11
i would look at the weight capacity on each, i think from memory the patrol has less capacity and with 500 - 700kg as the "normal" load you dont had "light" loads .......
Other than that it is really down to personall choice but dont make the mistake of getting one with lots of "accessorys" as a selling point as you can always add it later and those sort of things wont stop you if way out bush, good condition basic vehicle and start adding your own personal touches..
Cheers ...
((( must add, if you plan on coming along the Savannah Way past us then it is closed to Patrols, Toyotas only, sorry bout that ..... hahahaha)))
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Follow Up By: Member - beergutz - Monday, Apr 18, 2011 at 22:50

Monday, Apr 18, 2011 at 22:50
Hi Joe, sold my pajero and bought a patrol because the salesman said the letters mean


lol see ya
cheers bruce
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Reply By: Diesel 'n Dust - Monday, Apr 18, 2011 at 23:47

Monday, Apr 18, 2011 at 23:47
Just buy a Cruiser!!

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Reply By: Member - Anthony W Adelaide - Tuesday, Apr 19, 2011 at 00:36

Tuesday, Apr 19, 2011 at 00:36
Landcruiser for mine to Dave, all those mines and govt depts use them for years so I think that says something about them.

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Reply By: Member - Boobook - Tuesday, Apr 19, 2011 at 07:08

Tuesday, Apr 19, 2011 at 07:08
Dave I am possibly makeing the same decision soon for a second 4wd.

My short list would be a factory turbo cruiser which I think is 2002 on, or an intercooled GU. In round terms the GU seems to be 10K less expensive than a 70 series for like to like.

The main adivce I can give at this stage is that if you decide on a GU get the chassis around the rear axle insepcted by someone who knows what to look for. Apparently chassis cracks are very common and many owners get the chassis reinforced, especially with loads like you intend to have. I think it is not a matter of when, not if if you regularly have loads on it.

Google 'GU chassis crack' for more info or take a look at for feedback from people with real experience. If it was me from what I read, I would get the chassis reinforced and allow $1800 on top of the price if you decide on a Patrol. Given that I would probably go for a Patrol for my needs, and I am a Toyota owner.

Good luck, it will be interesting to see what feedback you get.
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Follow Up By: Member - John M (NSW) - Tuesday, Apr 19, 2011 at 08:03

Tuesday, Apr 19, 2011 at 08:03
Hi Dave
I agree with Boobook in regards to the chassis strengthening. Mine is a coil cab with a 100mm lift kit and air bags. On extended trips I carry heavy loads and had cracking in the chassis in way of the rear coil mounts. The chassis is now plated and strengthened (approx. $1500.00) and no more problems. When fully loaded for a trip it comes in at around 4.2 tons.
If you select the GU ST 4.2 intercooled, I would certainly recommend heaverier coils and air bags as it makes an enormous difference and makes for a good stable ride.
I am also a Cruiser owner, so have no aliance to either as they are both good vehicles although as far as a ute goes I believe that the Nissan offers better options to build up a good vehicle over the 70 series.
Good luck with your selection.
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Reply By: Gossy - Tuesday, Apr 19, 2011 at 14:12

Tuesday, Apr 19, 2011 at 14:12
I think you have just answered your own question. Take the passion out of the argument and both vehicles are as good as each other so it comes down to the points you mentioned:
1. The Toyota is worth more (is it worth it.... No there is nothing wrong with Patrols). Toyota charge more for their badge and their spare parts are more expensive.
2. The Patrol has lower mileage and is cheaper but just as capable.

Seems like a no brainer for me.


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Reply By: Member - Tezza Qld - Tuesday, Apr 19, 2011 at 18:00

Tuesday, Apr 19, 2011 at 18:00

What about a GU leaf sprung trayback. Easily carry the loads your talking about.
No need to worry about air bags. Just use good quality rear leaf springs.

If you wish to go further you can use the same suspension used in a GVM upgrade. Plus you can get passenger and drivers airbags and a larger cabin than toyota. The Nissan also lets you use all the fuel in the second tank as its pumped to the main tank. Fuel ecomony is on a par but the Nissan would have slightly higher servicing costs.

Cheers Teza
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Reply By: Member - Corrugate75 - Wednesday, Apr 20, 2011 at 07:05

Wednesday, Apr 20, 2011 at 07:05
I did this myself a couple of years back. Have always had cruisers, but when it came time to change over there was $12,500 between the price tag in favour of Patrol Cab Chassis (leaf rear). It was too much to ignore. I've had the Patrol for 120,000km now as a farm ute (often overloaded, often pulling trailers inexcess of 6tonne!) and have been very happy. Happy enough that when it came time to change the car we bought a Patrol Wagon!
Both are good vehicles, which is obvious as if one of them really was rubbish they wouldn't sell very many!
One thing that may change your mind if you do alot of driving, the Cruiser is a more upright driving position whereas the Patrol you have your legs more out in front (like a car). That is a personal preference for you to sort out.
In my case money talked, and I can't fault the Nissan.
Happy decision making!
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Reply By: dave v - Wednesday, Apr 20, 2011 at 22:09

Wednesday, Apr 20, 2011 at 22:09
Thanks everyone for the awesome replys! i cant beleive how good this forum is and the people on it and who genuinely want to help.

I knew this would start a Nissan vs Toyota battle, but the no bulls... approach is very much apprieciated.

I am also a Toyota owner and so is the old man and bro.. so itll be interesting to see a Nissan in the driveway.

Theres the homework done.. now the search is on, scales tipped in favor of the Nissan. Sorry to all the cruiser owners out there!
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