Gibb River Road: Pajero or Britz Bush Camper?

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Gibb River Road

The Gibb River Road is the 4WD option of the 2 main routes crossing the Kimberley from east to west (or vice versa) and provides access to the numerous gorges that are the main highlight.

Rik G

Hello all,

My wife and I plan to do Gibb River Road in September of this year, driving from Derby to Kununurra (and from there on to Darwin). We have never done this kind of trek before and, understandably, we are facing a number of unknowns. Below is a list of questions we have. We would appreciate it if experienced forum members reviewed them and give us their opinions.

The actual trip will start in Perth and we plan to drive along the west coast to Broome and then onto the Gibb River Road. So the complete itinerary is from Perth to Darwin, one way.

1. Car type
We got a quote from Britz for their Bush Camper, which comes with all the kit we need: camping gear, stove, very basic shower, kitchen utensils, recovery tools and sat phone. Total price for this rental is AUD $6,268. Quite steep, but then again, we never thought this trip would be a cheap one anyway.
Alternatively we can also rent a Mitsubishi Pajero from Avis. That would cost us only AUS $2,913, but of course that is just for the car. Still the price difference is substantial.
Is it OK to do the Gibb River Road in a Pajero, or do we real need the (truck-like) Britz Bush Camper? Given the distances we need to cover along the west coast, we would prefer to use something more comfortable like the Pajero.

2. What do we REALLY need for the Gibb River Road?
Some people have told us we need at least two spare tyres, even though the Britz car as well as the Avis car has only one.
Do we really need a sat phone for the GRR?
What kind of recovery gear is absolutely necessary? Air compressor? Tire kit? Shovel? Tow bar? ... We want to be safe, but do not want to do overdo it either.

3. Would it be possible to rent the kit for the GRR in Broome and drop it off in Darwin, i.e. a "one way rental"?

As 4WD newbies we are probably forgetting about numerous other things. Still the Internet is a great resource and we have already found some wonderful sites with excellent advice.

If readers of this forum could chime in on our questions above, that would be awesome!

Best regards from Belgium

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Reply By: Member - Toyocrusa (NSW) - Wednesday, May 04, 2011 at 06:44

Wednesday, May 04, 2011 at 06:44

Hi to Belgium from Oz. I googled "Perth Camper Trailer Hire" and it came up with a few choices. I am thinking for you to hire the Pajero and tow a camper trailer which would give you the best for both the coast and the inland. Your trip one way may cause the problem though so you would need to check with the hire companies. Good luck with your trip. Bob
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Follow Up By: Member - Boobook - Wednesday, May 04, 2011 at 07:53

Wednesday, May 04, 2011 at 07:53

You would also need to check if the 4wd hirer has a tow bar and allows towing. I found that this was not possible with any of the majors.

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Reply By: Member - Mark (Tamworth NSW) - Wednesday, May 04, 2011 at 08:22

Wednesday, May 04, 2011 at 08:22

Rik

It has been a long long time since I have done the Gibb R Road, but the Pajero will be more than capable, I have heard of people doing it in Honda soft roaders and a long time a go saw people doing it in the equivalent of your larger Opels (slowly).
Your Britz camper vehicle type is not defined, if it is a Toyota Troop carrier, it will be more capable again (more than required for GRR).
You do not need a Sat phone, you do not need 2 spares, tyre kit and maybe a compressor ($150 would more than do it for this one off use).
It does depend to some extent on the type of tyres the vehicles are shod with, but if they have plenty of tread, then they should be fine. Talk to the Kimberly locals about what tyre pressures to run on the dirt (not the Perth car hire company). Specify what type of tyres you have though.
Shovel and Tow bar are not required if you stick to the roads at that time of the year (it's dry).
It will be a well travelled road in Septemmber
Some of the side tracks are more severe, but again the Pajero will be more than up to it.
For $3000 you can buy plenty of camping gear from chain stores (tent, matresses, sleeping bags, stove etc), but the Britz is likely to be more comfortable.

In past threads on this forum there are some specific threads regarding GRR and there are specific GRR/ Kimberly web sites, do a search.

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Follow Up By: Motherhen - Wednesday, May 04, 2011 at 14:06

Wednesday, May 04, 2011 at 14:06

Hi Mark

Good idea about buying camping gear instead of hiring the fully equipped camper.

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Reply By: Robin Miller - Wednesday, May 04, 2011 at 09:03

Wednesday, May 04, 2011 at 09:03

I personally would not drive something as tall and narrow as a Britz camper on gravel roads, and the Paj is more than adequate for that road.

There are services that return the car - this should be part of your upfront negotiations.

No need for sat phone either.

I think I'd invest a couple of hundred in a small cheap tent sleeping bag $20 stove couple of $10 chairs for some camping, and have a couple of nights at local CV parks.

Min recovery gear required also - ability to plug a tyre is about all
along with a handpump or other inflation means.
Small camping shovel is useful to.

It would be good to work up a short list of things you need most of which
could be brought with you in a camping kit weighing less than 15kg - e.g.
couple of plates, mugs, little stove, small tarp, few tools, panandol etc.

Even a small tent at around 4kg can be plane luggage - and doing this saves
hassles having to organize here.

No drama's really - but a lot of fun.

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Reply By: Ian & Sue - Wednesday, May 04, 2011 at 09:38

Wednesday, May 04, 2011 at 09:38

You might want to check with Britz - previously they wouldnt let their 4wdrives go down the GRR past the bitumen section, mind you that was a while back and things could have changed.

Also remember that September the temperature through the area is starting to get really hot and already hitting the high 30's on most days - the road has usually taken a hammering from the tourist season by then too and isnt graded again until after the wet. If you could change your travel dates to earlier (May through to mid August) the weather is far more reasonable.

Ekkk... I sound pretty negative, sorry. GRR is definately worth doing the scenery is unimaginably beautiful - mind you I could be prejudice I lived up there for years.

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Follow Up By: Member - Andrew (QLD) - Wednesday, May 04, 2011 at 15:47

Wednesday, May 04, 2011 at 15:47

Hi Ian & Sue,

From their rental agreement 16.2 (c), they are allowed on the GRR with written permission. :)

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Reply By: Ian & Sue - Wednesday, May 04, 2011 at 09:43

Wednesday, May 04, 2011 at 09:43

Another thought - there are several small companies that take 4WD bus tours down the Gibb, they carry small groups of people and provide all the tents, food etc etc. Looking at the costs you are quoting you might want to look at one of those, they spend several nights doing the GRR which is over 650 klms long and they drop into all the important places and give comentaries along the way. I know this option isnt for everyone but thought I would drop it in just incase you hadnt thought of it.

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Follow Up By: Member - joc45 (WA) - Wednesday, May 04, 2011 at 19:03

Wednesday, May 04, 2011 at 19:03

Probably a cost-effective way of seeing the Kimberley, but they are rushed, rarely in one spot more than one night. For places like the Mitchell Plateau, they often camp 2 nights at King Edward River, with a rushed day trip in. So much nicer to stay a few days in one spot and take in the beauty of the place. I love camping, but I hate packing up each morning and moving on.
The advantage of the organised tour is that if anything goes wrong with the vehicle, it's their problem (but also yours, as the trip is on a deadline, so it gets truncated to make up time).
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Reply By: Member - Boobook - Wednesday, May 04, 2011 at 09:51

Wednesday, May 04, 2011 at 09:51

I hired a Britz 4wd, the 100 series ( at the time) not the high roof one.

When I hired one 2 years ago ( wow was it that long ago), they were ok with any gazetted road including up to Mitchell falls and Kulumbaru.

Also it was very well fitted out with literally everything you could ask for except food and clothing.

Re the spare wheels, I asked them about this and their answer was if I needed another spare due to one being unrepairable, just call and they would pay for another one. Not as good as 2 spares but it was ok.

Also, the tent they supplied tore after the first night in Derby. I called them and they just said buy one and keep the reciept. No hassles.

It wasn't cheap but I would consider doing it again in the right circumstances.

Also i heard you can hire a camper out of Kunnunurra.

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Reply By: Rangiephil - Wednesday, May 04, 2011 at 10:51

Wednesday, May 04, 2011 at 10:51

Just one caveat on a Pajero.
Unless the hire one has a snorkel, you would have to be very careful crossing the Pentecost River on the GRR and King Edward River if going to Mitchell Falls .

The air intake of a Pajero is at the front of the bonnet and any speed through water could hydraulic the motor. Pentecost is quite shallow but you never know. Certainly King Edward while only 20 metres if that , has a deep hole at the end.

The Britz Hilux, if that is what you are thinking of has a snorkel AFAIR.

Now this may be an urban myth, but I heard about it happening while I was at Drysdale station.
The story is that the Britz Hiluxes have a large insurance excess for rollover and your credit card will be debitted if they hear of it. The story was of a woman whose husband had rolled a Britz Hilux on the Mitchell Falls road and she raced ( hitched) back to Drysdale to cancel her credit card. LOL.
So make sure that you have travel insurance with excess coverage and that the coverage is adequate. The story actually was that Britz insurance does not cover rollovers , but I think that unlikely but worth checking.

Regards Philip A

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Follow Up By: Member - Boobook - Wednesday, May 04, 2011 at 12:05

Wednesday, May 04, 2011 at 12:05

Philip, I am pretty sure your rollover story is correct.

Actually I once spoke to the head Britz Mechanic, and he said they get about one rollover a week. Almost without exception drivers are from Northern Europe.

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Follow Up By: Member - joc45 (WA) - Wednesday, May 04, 2011 at 19:08

Wednesday, May 04, 2011 at 19:08

Of course, my observations when travelling the Kimberley is that the Britz campers are the fastest vehicles on the road! Geez, some of the drivers cane them! No wonder they roll!
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Reply By: Motherhen - Wednesday, May 04, 2011 at 14:04

Wednesday, May 04, 2011 at 14:04

Hi Rik

Which ever vehicle you choose, ensure they know what you are hiring it for and that full insurance applies on the dirt roads such as the Gibb River Road. Read the fine print and any disclaimers or exclusions that may apply. Yes, hire vehicle roll overs are not uncommon, and i suspect that the hirer may not only have his holiday ruined, but will pay a substantial cost. I don't see any problems for a Pajero on the road or the side roads.

By September expect water levels to be very low and remaining water crossing to be shallow. It is a spectacular area but water falls are at their best early in the season (May - June) and reduce as the dry goes on.

You can read about our 2008 Kimberley adventures (with an off road caravan) at 2008 Travelogues

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Follow Up By: Member - John B2 (VIC) - Wednesday, May 04, 2011 at 14:48

Wednesday, May 04, 2011 at 14:48

This might throw a spanner in the works for the Avis Pajero,

Avis vehicles must only be use on a road which is properly formed and constructed as a sealed, metalled or gravel road.
Vehicles are not permitted to be taken to:
* Kangaroo Island
* Bruny Island
* Fraser Island
* Into or out of the Northern Territory, Tasmania or to any points in Western Australia north of Carnarvon
* In Queensland:-Highway No.27: Beyond Chillagoe in a Westerly direction; Highway No.1: Beyond Normanton in a Southerly direction and no further North than Karumba.
* If the Vehicle is a Passenger vehicle or truck, beyond Cooktown to the North or Lakeland to the West and no further North than Cape Tribulation on the Coast road.
* On the Coast Road from Helenvale to Cape Tribulation, or from Laura to Lakeland, unless the vehicle is a Group W, 4WD above the snow line in Tasmania, New South Wales and
Victoria (being Jindabyne in New South Wales and Bright in Victoria) from the beginning of June until the end of September.
* On beaches or through streams, dams, rivers or flood waters.

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Follow Up By: Motherhen - Wednesday, May 04, 2011 at 15:01

Wednesday, May 04, 2011 at 15:01

Hi John

I often see hire vehicles in our outback travels, and wonder if they are just risking it in going on dirt roads. I think of the big debit on their credit card if the vehicle has an accident (even something as simple as hitting a kangaroo and claimed on their insurance they can still charge the hirer in full if the no dirt road conditions were breached). Some are authorised to travel on these roads and i think that may be the price difference Rik is seeing.

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Follow Up By: Member - John B2 (VIC) - Wednesday, May 04, 2011 at 15:35

Wednesday, May 04, 2011 at 15:35

Hi MH,

They main point I was alluding to, is you cannot go higher than Carnarvon in WA and also cannot take it in or out of the NorthernTerritory

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Follow Up By: Rik G - Wednesday, May 04, 2011 at 16:01

Wednesday, May 04, 2011 at 16:01

I also read in Avis' rental conditions that you cannot take their vehicles into the NT. On the other hand, they allowed me to book a one way rental from Perth to Darwin. So I assume they are fine with dropping off the vehicle in Darwin.

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Reply By: Motherhen - Wednesday, May 04, 2011 at 15:07

Wednesday, May 04, 2011 at 15:07

Hi Rik

Just another thought, depending on the length of your stay in Australia. We have met a few European travellers who have chosen to purchase something like an ex-hire 4wd camper vehicle or a Landcruiser for the duration of their travels so they are not caught by exclusions to roads they want to travel. They then re-sell when leaving. This of course involves a capital outlay to get a reliable vehicle, then they may need help in selling it when they leave, but those on extended trips say it works out cheaper than hiring, without the exclusions and risks. I have read vehicle hire conditions and though no way would i risk it.

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Reply By: WorkhorseWA - Wednesday, May 04, 2011 at 15:14

Wednesday, May 04, 2011 at 15:14

Hiya,
We were there mid June 2007, road was absolutely beautiful, was almost as good as the bitumen, mind you we didn't exceed 80kms, kept an eye out for bulldust, we were in a 94 Toyota Personnel Carrier, along with our 4wd Outback camper trailer.....the car and trailer were great. Only thing was we lost a cap to the trailer wheel bearings. So long as you don't use excessive speed, particularly if your not used to driving on gravel/bulldust and have a good all-terrain tyre on the vehicle no probs. There was alot more traffic on the GRR than we expected, I don't think it's the "last frontier" anymore, but a great trip all the same. Going over "jump ups" as they call it (up hill), majority of them are bitumenised. When we were there they were asphalting the road all the way from Derby to tunnel creek road turnoff as well. We only had a CB radio and our mobile phones (which of course won't work out there). Yes, your standard recovery gear is essential, shovel, snatch strap, tyre kit, air compressor (think we travelled on around 20psi to make the corrugations more comfortable) most of the GRR is not hard 4wding, it's basically red dirt/gravel and bulldust and some river crossings (which are usually either rock based or have been bitumenised). Is a good idea to carry spare belts and hoses etc, but you should be able to get some assistance from a fellow traveller as a worst case scenario. We had two spare tyres, one for the car and one for the camper trailer, although all our tyres matched. We did also buy Ron and Viv Moon's book on travelling the Kimberley, which has some good information, plus also provided some light reading along the way. You will luv it, I can't wait to go back.....safe travels :)

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Follow Up By: Member - Barry P (VIC) - Wednesday, May 04, 2011 at 19:17

Wednesday, May 04, 2011 at 19:17

back in 2004 there was a bus service on the grr is it still around ?

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Follow Up By: WorkhorseWA - Wednesday, May 04, 2011 at 20:10

Wednesday, May 04, 2011 at 20:10

Barry, not sure about an actual public bus service, can't say I noticed. But we did see alot of tourist buses and I think Greyhound Buses may travel on it. One bus had just done the Tanami Road...a specky Mercedes bus at that!!

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Follow Up By: WorkhorseWA - Wednesday, May 04, 2011 at 20:12

Wednesday, May 04, 2011 at 20:12

Oh, just one other thing.....there were LOTS of Britz (Landcruiser PC's) about.

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Reply By: Member - joc45 (WA) - Wednesday, May 04, 2011 at 19:20

Wednesday, May 04, 2011 at 19:20

Tyres:
Not sure, but it's possible that the rental Pajero will come with original tyres which are more suited to sealed roads, whereas a Britz troopie will most likely come with tougher off-road tyres.
Our joint trip last year in the Kimberley was spoilt a bit when our accompanying friend's Disco trashed two $500 tyres on the eastern end of the GRR. The tyres came with the new vehicle, but were totally unsuited for stony roads. The hole in the tyre was too big for a plug; both were wasted.
Re a second spare tyre, I carry a carcass on the roof and the usual plugs, tyre levers and bead breakers, and a tube in case that will rescue a damaged tyre. A worn carcass is a better fix than no tyre at all.
Gerry

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Reply By: Rik G - Wednesday, May 04, 2011 at 20:57

Wednesday, May 04, 2011 at 20:57

Hello,

Thanks to all that have replied so far. Your input is appreciated!

The Britz vehicle I was referring to is their Bush Camper: http://karavshin.org/outback2003/archive/britz-and-camel.jpg
I am not too familiar with 4x4s, but it looks like it is based on a Toyota Land Cruiser, right?
Since we will be doing an awful lot of driving -- at least to European standards -- our concern is that the Britz vehicle may be a bit too agricultural for the stretch along the west coast, from Perth to Broome. The Pajero is probably more comfortable, hence our preference for that car.

There is this company in Broome which rents out camping gear and also recovery/safety kits for outback trips.
http://www.kimberleycampinghire.com.au/
I sent them a couple of emails the past few days, but they have not responded yet. Perhaps a phone call will be more effective. Anyway, their website mentions they do offer "one way rentals", which is exactly what we are looking for.

To those who advised us to do the trip in July/August, thanks for the tips. However, we are stuck to September, so we cannot change that.

Going on a tour is probably good for some people, but we are more like "independent tourists". I must admit I do use the tour companies' web sites to find out where to go and what to see. ;-)

We do not intend to go to Mitchell Falls, but obviously we will have to cross the Pentecost River. Let's hope by the end of September, it will be sufficiently low to cross it with a vehicle that does not have snorkel. Based on your input, it seems that the GRR does see quite some traffic that time of year. Perhaps we could check out how the others do it and then copy it? Yeah I know, we really sound like gullible North Europeans, don't we? ;-)

In any event, right now we are inclined to choosing the Pajero and rent/buy camping equipment. Further advice/tips are of course more than welcome!

Thanks making our trip Down Under a good one!

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Follow Up By: Member - Mark (Tamworth NSW) - Wednesday, May 04, 2011 at 21:48

Wednesday, May 04, 2011 at 21:48

Rik
The fording depth on the standard Pajero is 700mm, same as a Prado (Landcrusier150)

I did it in October, yes it was warm to hot, but ithe air was dry and comfortable, hadn't got to the higher humidity "build up season".

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Follow Up By: Robin Miller - Thursday, May 05, 2011 at 08:26

Thursday, May 05, 2011 at 08:26

That Britz picture is of the troopy with the highest rollover index.

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Follow Up By: Rangiephil - Thursday, May 05, 2011 at 09:31

Thursday, May 05, 2011 at 09:31

While the fording depth of a pajero IS 700MM, the position of the air inlet at the bonnet lip would suggest that if a ford was taken by an inexperienced driver at high speed , it is conceivable that water could enter the intake and hydraulic the engine.
Remember you are posting to a European who does not have experience at forming bow waves etc etc. Even some of those little short and deadly crossings could easily catch someone out.
I fitted a snorkel to my Range Rover after a friend hydrauliced his Range Rover Classic in a deep puddle on an outback Road at 80 Kmh and the air entry in them is IMHO better protected than a Pajero, and it was a petrol which takes much more water to damage.
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Follow Up By: Member - Barry P (VIC) - Thursday, May 05, 2011 at 10:22

Thursday, May 05, 2011 at 10:22

regarding gibb river road bus service phone 08 9169 1880 or e-mail gibbriverbus@westnet.com.au i do not know what the current status of this service is;have too make your own enquires .it would be an interesting trip with all the drop off points .or you could google gibb river road bus service ,can you please put a reply back on the forum thanks barry

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Follow Up By: Member - Mark (Tamworth NSW) - Thursday, May 05, 2011 at 14:44

Thursday, May 05, 2011 at 14:44

This one is for Rangie Phil

"hydrauliced his Range Rover Classic in a deep puddle on an outback Road at 80 Kmh"
Phil present company excepted, but being a RANGE ROVER, that says it all!!

1) Water into air intake from a deep puddle ???? and or
2) Person drove into deep water @ 80km/hr
3) You sure the person wasn't telling a Pork Pie where it happened, after all a Range Rover outside of a capital city??

Pajero certainly does have a poor air intake positioning relative to other vehicles

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Reply By: Rik G - Thursday, May 05, 2011 at 04:21

Thursday, May 05, 2011 at 04:21

The other question we have is regarding the fuel range of the Pajero. Is it sufficient to cover the distance between two fuel stations along the GRR or do we need to carry extra diesel in a jerrycan? I understand it is about 930 kms from Derby to Kununurra along the GRR, which, under normal circumstances would be OK with the Pajero's range, even if there was only one roadhouse along the way. The article posted here http://www.exploroz.com/TrekNotes/Kimberley/Gibb_River_Road.aspx lists three fuel stops between Derby and Kununurra, so I suppose we are fine. Just double checking. ;-)

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Follow Up By: Member - Mark (Tamworth NSW) - Thursday, May 05, 2011 at 08:13

Thursday, May 05, 2011 at 08:13

No need for extra fuel, with my diesel Pajero, on bitumen @ 100km/hr I can almost squeeze 900km out of a tank, it on dirt it deteriorates, but then you won't or shouldn't be doing 100km/hr for much of it either!

One fuel stop is adequate even with a Petrol which is about 25-30% less efficient

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Reply By: Member - Chris W (Austria) - Thursday, May 05, 2011 at 06:19

Thursday, May 05, 2011 at 06:19

Hi Rik,

for car hire you might consider Travel Car Centre (TCC), small company but highly professional.

I am a "Northern European" based in Vienna, Austria, looking forward to my 5th OZ trip (starting from Darwin on July 11, ending in Sydney after 7 weeks).
I will drive a Toyo Troopy, same as I had back in 2006 (a 9 weeks trip).
TCC allow you to operate their 4WDs on every gazetted road/track (check their website) ! Unlike the large hire companies, they make every effort to meet your demands !

The Gibb River Road is definitively a fantastic experience, I had it back in 2000, and will be there soon in July.

As posted before (by much more experienced folks than me), security (car, communication, etc.) should not be a major issue, as long as you carry a tyre plug set (beside, of course, your spare tyre).
The GRR has obviously become sort of a highway, so if you should get stranded, chances are good that you will meet other travellers pretty soon!

Just a hint: browse to Kimberley Australia Travel Guide, you will find heaps of informations!

Cheers,
Chris

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Reply By: Member - Duncan W (WA) - Thursday, May 05, 2011 at 10:12

Thursday, May 05, 2011 at 10:12

Rik if you have concerns regarding the main river crossings, the local ABC Radio gives regular water level reports throughout the day. I found these very helpfull especially with regards to the King Edward River. With the Penticost we found that vehicles were parked up each side waiting to get photos of vehicles crossing. Do likewise if in doubt and decide if too deep. We did it in June and water depth was only about 400mm, the King Edward was 800mm.

BTW going into the Mitchell Plateau you have to drive through 2 swampy bits that nobody tells you about. These presented no problems but the sight of mud either end was a little daunting and there was no way I was going to walk a track through a swamp. (I followed somebody else through).

Enjoy your trip, (in whatever vehicle you end up with).

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Reply By: Peter_n_Margaret - Friday, May 06, 2011 at 18:50

Friday, May 06, 2011 at 18:50

I have never seen the Pentercost deeper than 350mm in 6 or 8 crossings.
It is on the upper reaches of the tidal influence and that could back up the ricer water a little. Wait 'till the tide goes out.
The Durack is likely to be considerably deeper early in the season, but not in September.

Not going to the Mitchell Falls!
Why not? You definately should.

You will find the Britz Bush Camper Troopy better to drive and more comfortable than you think and it is a VERY capable vehicle driven with due dilligence.

I don't think you mentioned how long this trip from Perth to Darwin would be (in weeks). However long it will be, the Kimberley justifies at least HALF of the total time available.

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Follow Up By: Rik G - Friday, May 06, 2011 at 21:53

Friday, May 06, 2011 at 21:53

Hi Peter,
Thanks for your input. We have about 4 weeks between Perth and Darwin, with about half of that in the Kimberley. So we need to select what we are going to see and do. I understand four weeks is definitely not enough to see it all. That's always the problem when you have limited time. Mitchell Falls would be nice of course, but it is a long drive off the GRR to get there. We'd rather spend some more time in one particular place rather than rush it from one scenic spot to another. The good thing is we are not on an organized tour and can decide along the way what to see and do. The only thing we need to ensure is that we arrive in time in Darwin to catch our flight. ;-)

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