Landcruiser Auto Transmission
Submitted: Sunday, May 15, 2011 at 12:11
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maccax7
I have a 2006 turbo diesel with only 125,000ks which has just developed a small shudder in the transmission. It is only on take off in 1st and reverse and is more pronounced when i have a trailer on. Has the trans seriviced and new filter to no no avail. Does not slip or seem to have any other problems. Have spoken to 4 very good Toyota mechanics and they have never seen this problem. Does anyone have any ideas.
Reply By: Axle - Sunday, May 15, 2011 at 12:40
Sunday, May 15, 2011 at 12:40
Hi Maccax, My 04 5speed auto was doing a similar thing for a while, It dissappeared when i changed the transfer case oil, Don't ask me how...lol, but it hasen't done it since....One thing i learn't about Toyo mechanics ,whatever the problem they have never heard of it before!!.
Cheers Axle.
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Follow Up By: member - mazcan - Sunday, May 15, 2011 at 13:13
Sunday, May 15, 2011 at 13:13
hi axle /maccaz7
thats a very common answer from nearly every other dealership mechanic
no matter what the brand is
haven't heard of that problem before !honestly no mate your vehicles the first one to come to us with that
yare right ????? lol
one mechanic actually admitted on the quiet that they are told to say that while the powers above decide whether they will help you or not
l
cheers
barry
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Follow Up By: Member - Duke (TAS) - Sunday, May 15, 2011 at 20:41
Sunday, May 15, 2011 at 20:41
Had a mate with exactly the same symptoms in his 06 Cruiser.
Advised him to change the oil in the rear Diff (LSD) and it fixed the problem. Toyota told him the same story as they did you.
Duke
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Reply By: snoopyone - Sunday, May 15, 2011 at 13:15
Sunday, May 15, 2011 at 13:15
Did they put the correct WS oil in it Only Toyota have it
Nothing else should be used
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Reply By: member - mazcan - Sunday, May 15, 2011 at 13:23
Sunday, May 15, 2011 at 13:23
hi maccax7
sounds like clutch shudder
could be a small amount of oil /grease on the clutch plate try putting it in 3rd gear in stationary position and apply light brake pressure and ride the clutch for just 5 seconds
(and i dont mean until smoke starts belching out of the housing- lol)
sometimes this will dry the clutch plate and get rid of the oil/grease off the clutch plate surface
this has worked for me a couple of times and the shudder has gone away cheers
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Follow Up By: member - mazcan - Sunday, May 15, 2011 at 13:28
Sunday, May 15, 2011 at 13:28
hi sorry maccaz7
just realized you have an auto trans lol
oh !
well the advice re manual/trans might help some one else
lol cheers
its the morning after the night before
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Follow Up By: garrycol - Sunday, May 15, 2011 at 15:03
Sunday, May 15, 2011 at 15:03
Not silly as it sounds - shudders often emanate from the torque converter where the lockup plates can bind when not locked up causing the shudder.
Also auto gearboxes should not just have the oil changed - it should be double flushed to remove as much as the old oil as possible. A single flush leaved a fair bit of the the old oil in the box - particularly in the TC.
Garry
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Reply By: MEMBER - Darian, SA - Sunday, May 15, 2011 at 14:00
Sunday, May 15, 2011 at 14:00
I'd be looking at the common factors, seeing you have it in reverse too - years back, I had similar in a new fourbie - was the LSD diff - it eventually settled in and went away - being a Toyota and with your odo reading, the vehicle is near new anyway :-o) ........as suggested above, different lubes (within spec of course) in the transfer and diffs might be fruitful. While you are under there, a lube and inspection of all propellor shaft hardware would be indicated it seems.
and........Love it Axle - (dealer mechanic ......"haven't heard of that before")..... hear it all the time (or did - haven't been near a dealer for years - hope never to go again !).
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Reply By: philldeb - Sunday, May 15, 2011 at 16:37
Sunday, May 15, 2011 at 16:37
I would be checking rear engine mounts as
well
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Follow Up By: Member - MUZBRY(Vic) - Sunday, May 15, 2011 at 16:58
Sunday, May 15, 2011 at 16:58
Gday
And the uni joints.
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Reply By: Member - Tony H (touring oz) - Sunday, May 15, 2011 at 17:11
Sunday, May 15, 2011 at 17:11
As noted above.....vibration under acceleration I would be checking the uni joints
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Reply By: Andrew(WA) - Sunday, May 15, 2011 at 17:50
Sunday, May 15, 2011 at 17:50
have you recently greased up the drive shaft? too much grease in the yoke will give a slight vibration for a while.
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Follow Up By: Member - tojofixa - Sunday, May 15, 2011 at 22:15
Sunday, May 15, 2011 at 22:15
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Reply By: maccax7 - Monday, May 16, 2011 at 07:05
Monday, May 16, 2011 at 07:05
Hi All, and thanks for your replies. The mechanics I spoke with were privates, not the dealer oneS. I haven't used them for many years also. The suggestion on the tranfer case oil is a possibility, as i have done all the others. I have it booked in for a servive this week, so will have it changed then and report back.
Have a great week.
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