Oh what a Lemon

I suggest you join LCOOL.org and you will get a much more balanced point of view. There are many threads on this and other issues, once you work your way thru them all I am very sure you will be glad you have ordered arguably the best 4WD on the market :)

If you read thru the website, his initial complaint was the lack of adjustment on the seat (don't you check that out before you buy it?) and then he complains about fuel consumption (780km best from the tanks). Now I can get over 1,000kms and up to 750kms when towing, not sure what he is doing to get so low.

Anyway, yes there have been the odd issue but your model is well sorted and Toyota do eventually look after you, thought they need a bit of prodding at times.

Cheers

Captain

B-W

I am not going to waste a second of my valuable time looking at that link, because! I bought last years July 10 model - hot off the assembly line - and it hasn't had any of the 'so called issues'.

As a matter of fact it's heading off to Alice Springs today which will be its second trip there. This time towing a Camper Trailer loaded to the gunnels.

Last time to Alice-S it wandered between 10l -10.6l per 100kms depending on the terrain and was always at the speed limit/s.

When I tow our Jayco Base Station at approx 2.5ts, it tends to enjoy drinking the diesel like a Irishman at a free whiskey tasting. (LOL) However I just fill it up, hand over the plastic and don't dare look How much it used or what it cost. Sleep much better that way.

Enjoy your new 'wonder machine' and take no notice of the Ooo! Ooo! brigade.

DD

Good on you Bush Wanderer by enforcing speculations the 200 series is rubbish.

I suggest like others have go to the Lcool site and have a look, it better coming form the horses mouth and not from people who have a bee in their bonnet.

The internet can be a fantastic place and it can also be a place of junk, false claims and misleading information.

People have very short memories of other vehicles makes over the last 20 years and the problems they had and Toyota isn't alone with it's share of problems.

So if a 200 has so many problems what are you going to buy?.... another brand with more BIGGER problems.

The problems the 200 series has had is few and far between and NO not every single one made is a failure as the internet makes it to be.

The only useful part of that website is the alleged paperwork from Toyota to the dealers saying the pistons had been redesigned in 2009 (along with the other minor fixes). I would have thought there's a fair chance they no longer use oil.

Toyota tend to quietly fix things but don't let anyone else know, otherwise they end up with a heap of owners all wanting their motor replaced because it uses a litre or two of oil.

After buying our VW Tiguan, I found its pretty common for the VW diesels to use oil as well but nobody seems to make a fuss because VW says it's normal for a modern diesel using thin synthetic oil.

hi bush wanderer. i have a 2009 vx ttd landcruiser. i also had trouble with it using oil. but at approx 40,000 klms, it slowly stopped. apart from this,it has been a excellent vehicle. i tow a 21ft bushtracker caravan 3.5 tons, the wife and i and our dog have been right around oz. the cruiser performed very well. i have had my services done by toyota agents,all over oz. there was only one lemon in this lot of agents. i must also say i have been into some spots in oz that were very difficult, the cruiser pulled the van out with no trouble. regards. ken b

I must be unlucky

Replaced vacuum pump
Replaced seat belt
Replaced pistons rings and big end bearings (oil consumption)
Tow Bar pin holes elongated
Knock in the front end
Dust problems
Replaced two rear shocks (oil leak)
Replaced two tail shafts
Replaced or repaired 16 injectors (8 because of fuel contamination problems)
Replaced or repaired 2 injector pumps (1 because of fuel contamination problems)
Replaced fuel lines twice (1 because of fuel contamination problems)
Replaced 2 common rails ( because of fuel contamination problems)
Replaced fuel cooler ( because of fuel contamination problems)

The 200 series has been off the road for repairs a total of 6 months.

Bow and Nan,

That does not sound pleasant. Sorry to hear,

But honestly your experience is well and truly the exception. Even in LCOOL, where members absolutely blast Toyo for the slightest of problem, it does not show any real "issue". Yes some uses oil, the tailshaft made a clunk but it was actually doing what it was designed to do just made a noise in the process, and yes when you use them horses you need to feed them (V8 power on tap!) Hardy defined as "issues"

I have a '07 model, the first off the ship, 3 CY trips, plenty smaller trips, no issues whatsoever.

CJ

We have 3 200's where I work.
All love to drink oil, abnormally, but they do make it to the service fine after using heavier weight oil
2 of them have had the injector pump, injectors etc.. all rebuilt due to bad fuel (or rather, toyota's crap fuel filters).
The default shocks are rubbish, even the one not loaded up heavily had them destroyed before 10,000km on the clock.

Thats the total for them now all having >100,000 on them.

fixes they have taken have been
second decent fuel filter with water catch
slightly heavier weight oil
decent shocks
not buy more cruisers.

B-W,

I bought an Anniversary special LE in January, and now have just over 6,000 km on it. It used about half a litre of oil before the 1500 km service, at which time it was topped up to the full mark. Now at just over 6000 km the level has dropped about 3 to 4 mm, which I am guessing is around 250 ml. That is about what I would expect of an engine still running in. (It is only now starting to free up)

On a recent trip from Canberra to Sydney and back, which included an hour or so of city driving, it returned a fuel consumption of 10.2 LHK, measured using the same pump.

Towing a 2.7 tonne dirt road van through the mountains between Canberra and Eden and return, it returned a fuel consumption of around 25 LHK, but that was travelling at around 100 kph where possible, with many long steep hills and into strong headwinds both ways. I expect that to drop to around 18 LHK in normal conditions and using a normal amount of right welly.

I am a Land Rover enthusiast, but when I compared all the contenders for use as a caravan tug in remote areas, the LC200 came out on top by a clear margin. Nothing I have seen or experienced so far makes me doubt my decision. It is an outstanding vehicle even if it lacks the special charms of a Land Rover. I don't think you will regret your decision.

I have just ordered a TTD GXL with KDSS and can't wait, but I know that it could be a long one.

No matter, as this time, (I had ordered and cancelled three years ago for the very same nervous reasons as you are experiencing today) and I firmly believe that Toyota is too big a company to let these things fester without fixing them.

I read far too much negative stuff on the net, and then punished myself with going through the anguish of, "did i do the right thing" etc, and instead, decided to get myself a late model 100 Series.

The 100, which I love, is a great vehicle, but I am going to be selling her with regret, but now its time for an upgrade and as I said, I can't wait.

Robert