Roller Drawers...and 3 baby seat attachments

Submitted: Sunday, Jun 12, 2011 at 17:14
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I have a Nissan Patrol 04 wagon 4.8 model and we are looking to head away in September for 4 weeks...which is all good, but I'm going to need 3 baby seat attachments next year. Is this possible and with what brand drawers can I have my cake and eat it to?

Looking forward to your help.


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Reply By: SDG - Sunday, Jun 12, 2011 at 17:21

Sunday, Jun 12, 2011 at 17:21
Outback drawers make one that you can put anchor bolts on. You do need to tell them how many at time of ordering.
On another note, with the drawers you should also have a barrier. I know they have access for two straps, but not sure about three.
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Follow Up By: Vicar QLD - Sunday, Jun 12, 2011 at 17:27

Sunday, Jun 12, 2011 at 17:27
Good point, didn't think about the barrier, I guess if you can tell them about the amount of anchor points, maybe you can about the barrier?
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Follow Up By: SDG - Sunday, Jun 12, 2011 at 17:34

Sunday, Jun 12, 2011 at 17:34
The barrier itself is only about four or fife squares taken out of the mesh, with a plastic surround to prevent rubbing. The actual beams that give it strength and structure are not touched. I have seen some that don't have any mesh at all in the middle sections, just a piece of clear removal perspect to allow for longer items.
There is probably no reason you could not cut out your own, except for the warrenty etc. as long as the positioning was correct.
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Follow Up By: Vicar QLD - Sunday, Jun 12, 2011 at 17:40

Sunday, Jun 12, 2011 at 17:40
ok, thanks for that SDG. Just want to make sure the little kiddies are all safe in their seats, don't want to do anything even slightly dodgy. Hopefully someone does the combo set up.

Thanks for your help.
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Reply By: George_M - Sunday, Jun 12, 2011 at 17:52

Sunday, Jun 12, 2011 at 17:52
Does your vehicle have "isofix" child restraint fittings built into the second row seats, Chris?

My Prado is a 2006 model, so not much younger than yours. We had some visitors from Europe last Christmas. The child-capsules they brought with them had these funny fittings that they proceeded to clip into the isofix mounts in my car. I didn't know the Prado was fitted with them - possibly your Patrol has them too?

I think the key challenge will be fitting three baby seats across the second row seat.

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Follow Up By: SDG - Sunday, Jun 12, 2011 at 18:11

Sunday, Jun 12, 2011 at 18:11
Just been looking up info on the isofix system. Sounds like a really good idea. Simple and fool proof. The Swedish had outdone themselves with this system. Problem is, every site says they are illegal to use in Australia. Don't meet our standards.

Heres a good bit of info. Read this.

Admitadely it is about a year old but the statics are interesting.
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Follow Up By: Vicar QLD - Sunday, Jun 12, 2011 at 18:30

Sunday, Jun 12, 2011 at 18:30

It's a seven seater so the mounts are in the rear, but like said above unfortunately, it would seem we can't use those isofix system. Bummer!

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Reply By: geocacher (djcache) - Sunday, Jun 12, 2011 at 19:02

Sunday, Jun 12, 2011 at 19:02
Hi Chris,

I've got an 04 Patrol.

I have Black Widow Drawers which are the full depth of the cargo area. The bottom of the cargo barrier is fixed onto the top of the drawers behind the seat & the child restraints are all fitted to the back (steel) wall of the drawer cabinet.

Black widow & their dealers retrofit old drawers with approved anchor points if you get onto a set of secondhand ones like I did. (Mine were installed at ARB Ballarat.) I think you'll find all of their new drawers are all ready to have the anchor points bolted in. No drilling required. But you could ring them and confirm if you need to. They are pretty helpfull.

If you fit drawers you would be wise to also fit the Rear Door Bracket Extension which allows you to open the left door just that bit wider.

Problem solved.

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Follow Up By: Vicar QLD - Sunday, Jun 12, 2011 at 19:10

Sunday, Jun 12, 2011 at 19:10
Hi Roachie,

Thanks mate, thats really helpful. I'll have a look at their website. How have you found the drawers? The outback ones look really good, but they are very expensive, don't get me wrong, dont' want to skimp on safety.


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Reply By: 3 Boys and a Lady - Sunday, Jun 12, 2011 at 21:04

Sunday, Jun 12, 2011 at 21:04
Hi Chris,

So glad I came across your tread. We too are in the market for drawers and never even gave a thought to the anchor points. So thanks so much.

One thing we were told by a well travelled 4x4 guy that make sure if buying drawers there is a gap at the top of the draw when it closes to avoid finger jams as most drawers auto close. I know for sure the outback drawers have this feature. Still doing research on them so haven't explored all options yet.

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Reply By: ingo57 - Tuesday, Jun 14, 2011 at 16:28

Tuesday, Jun 14, 2011 at 16:28
Hi Chris,

I have recently sold my GU Patrol but was faced with the same dilemma.

When It came time for me to fit the third baby seat I was shocked to find there is no anchor point for the centre, the reason why is because the rear seats are split 60/40 and the the child restraint strap slides into it making the child seat unsupported and very unsafe. Having a centre anchor point on aftermarket draws will still be unsafe.

When I looked into it a "CRA BAR" is the only way to get around it and keep the 3rd child safe.
The Cra bar is fitted between the two rear side pillars and bolted into place at the height as the top of the rear seat and the anchor points are installed in the bar.

I was going to have Town and Country 4WD Beverly Hills fit mine in Sydney, give them a call and ask for Kieran and he should point you in the right direction.

Will cost around $300 however no one has said kids are cheap!

Hope this helps
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Follow Up By: Vicar QLD - Tuesday, Jun 14, 2011 at 20:24

Tuesday, Jun 14, 2011 at 20:24

Appreciate your message. Was just in contact with Black Widow who confirmed they do the 3rd attachment point. Am confused why they would do this if it isn't legal. Will follow up with Black Widow tomorrow.

Is CRA BAR on the net, will look it up now.

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Follow Up By: ingo57 - Wednesday, Jun 15, 2011 at 10:18

Wednesday, Jun 15, 2011 at 10:18
It's not the problem of having the centre anchor point, the problem is the split in the 60/40 seat.
There is a reason why there is no centre child restraint anchor standard on the GU, maybe give Nissan Australia a call and ask them why.

Even though there is no anchor point in the centre now, grab one of your baby seats and place it in the centre then If you sit in the back and hold the strap down near where the anchor point will be fixed you will find the left side of the anchor strap will slide down the split in the seat.
Maybe not straight away but it eventually works its way across and slides into the split making the restraint very loose.
In the case of an Impact this is a big problem!!

I have read somewhere on another forum that to screw a thick piece of Aluminium angle to the back of the seat & across the split can prevent this also.
Do not know about the legalities of this though but Im pretty sure It's quite affective.

Good luck mate, at the end of the day the little tikes rely on us to keep em safe Its worth looking into it a bit more and be comfortable which ever way you go..... they are to valuable!

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Follow Up By: ingo57 - Wednesday, Jun 15, 2011 at 10:34

Wednesday, Jun 15, 2011 at 10:34

Check out my original thread 81439 when I was first faced with the problem, some good info to read up on.

I never realised the problem until the night before I had to pick up my 3rd new born from the hospital.
BTW I unfortunately had to sell the car for other reasons around this time so never actually did the fix.

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Follow Up By: Vicar QLD - Thursday, Jun 16, 2011 at 06:46

Thursday, Jun 16, 2011 at 06:46
Hi Ingo57,

Thanks for the input. I'm going to drop into UV 4x4 today to have a look and I'll update my post about what they say. I think it's interesting that they may not have looked at the fact the belt can potentially slip down the split seat arrangement.

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