Pajero 2004

William have you had a drive of the new 3.8 and if so what sort of difference is there between it and the 3.5. I am looking at a new 3.8 or a run out exceed 3.5 for thousands of $$$$ cheaper than new 3.8.

William thanks for the response. How does the traction control go in sand.

We do not have petrol vehicles so dont know about the petrol engine
The traction control in sand is incredible. You have to experience it to believe how good it is. You can feel the power being transferred to the different wheels. Where other vehicles get stuck in the sand you just keep going.

I don't think traction control would help in this case, it's main function is to stop a spinning wheel if it lifts off the ground and breaks traction and transfer the drive to the other wheel which is hopefully firmly on the ground. in sand I think you actually want the tyres spinning a bit, energy and momentum is lost by brakeing wheels in sand. Most right ups say it is a good thing and will definatley take you further on a rough slippery track. I was unsure about it when I bought mine as you lose the rear LSD with TC which I thought would be better in sand than TC.Also when I bought mine it was a $3500 option, there wasn't much written about it when I bought mne so I decided against it and figured if I reallly needed something I could get a front air locker for under $2000 which should be better than TC.

Thats easy ! its the body ! same as the" mighty monaro" winning the 24 hr race ,lets see you go buy one fitted with a 427 ci motor from the factory !!

Thats my point. The only thing the same as the comp paj and the streeter is the badge, well the shape and color, the race one is probably carbon fiber..

Carbon fiber body and panels, interior and seats mostly, with Titanium everything else. Imagine the dry weight.

Only the sad would consider them similar in anyway!

as for the 427 they were doing it, took orders and all...

then for some reason they cancelled the plans to build... Which in a safety idea, is a good idea. 98% of the plonkers that buy cars like that, they cant drive so would be dangerous! All image and 'think they can drive like Brock'...

Russell

I currentley have a Prado RV6 and didn't think I would look at anything else it has been fantastic. I was planning to buy another Prado but from all reports the new Prado is worse than the old Pajero off road. The Mitsubishi dealer is going to give me a massive discount ($7k). Add to this the fact that Toyota still think something like Air Con is an option in Australia. Here are a list of a few things I have discovered in the last few weeks about the base model Pajero compared to the Prado:

Best diesel in class (121kw vs 96kw),
Best transmission in class (5 speed auto didn't think I would be buying an auto ethier till I drove this one last weekend),
Standard alloy wheels,
Standard air con,
Standard Traction, stability, and descent control,
Standard CD player
Standard Cruise Control
Better ergonomics than Prado
Better on road handling
Reported better offroad (with traction control) than current Prado
The dealer is happy to put a bullbar, snorkel and Cooper tyres on it before it is delivered,
2 week delivery time,
Service costs are half that of Prado,
Diesel service interval is 15000km instead of Prados 5000kms

The only thing I think the Prado has over it is looks, and I'm not spending this sort of money on looks.

When you put it like that, it does sound good....for a Mitsubishi :-)) The torque figures are a bit closer than the power numbers would suggest, so I'm not sure the performance will be that much different. I don't care how good an auto is, I still haven't come to grips with letting go of the gear stick. That said, I reckon Prado will come out with a CRD and 5 speed auto sometime, either next upgrade or the one after, depending on how the sales are going - and I might have changed my tune by then. Alloy wheels and the electronic attempts-to-make-up-for-vehicle-deficiency things don't impress, but some of the other things sound quite good. I agree that they have softened up the Prado from the old model, and the base model Prado is not something that I'd buy - it's missing too many things that I want - big fuel tanks etc. Hope it works out for you.Russell S
Prado RV6