gps (what works in central aus)

Submitted: Tuesday, Jun 14, 2011 at 16:11
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Hey

Another question heading off into northern SA and southern NT and wondering if you need a special gps to work in the middle of know where as I have the typical in car gps but I wasn't sure if this would. I know it sounds stupid as they work off satellites but I figured better safe then sorry.

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Reply By: TerraFirma - Tuesday, Jun 14, 2011 at 16:30

Tuesday, Jun 14, 2011 at 16:30
Satellites work everywhere you don't need a special GPS for Central Aust. If you are going to rely on a GPS life and death scenario you'd better make sure you have a backup and if all fails communications to call for help.
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Reply By: vk1dx - Tuesday, Jun 14, 2011 at 16:35

Tuesday, Jun 14, 2011 at 16:35
Brodie

What do you mean by a "GPS"?

Are you talking about street navigation or something to show your location or to show where you are on a map?

Your answer willmake it easier for people to be helpful.

Phil
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Reply By: The Landy - Tuesday, Jun 14, 2011 at 17:01

Tuesday, Jun 14, 2011 at 17:01
Hi Brodie

Yor GPS will work anywhere, but it depends on the 'usable' information you want it to tell you.

By this I mean, if you just want a position (lat/long) then it will do it, if you want to view maps etc, you'll need to upload appropriate maps for the area your are travelling in. You'll need to check if you can do this on your unit.

Otherwise, a laptop or similar with Oziexplorer mapping software and GPS mouse plugged in will d the job...

Good luck with it...

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Reply By: Member - Rob D (NSW) - Tuesday, Jun 14, 2011 at 17:08

Tuesday, Jun 14, 2011 at 17:08
As a general rule, the further North you are, the larger number of satellites your GPS can acquire. Your standard in-car GPS will probably not have anything other than main roads and may be useless in the wilderness.

If you are going out into the wilderness and relying on your GPS, then I would take a backup GPS. I have had a number of GPS failures, mainly because of corrugations breaking power and other connections. I always carry a spare in the form of a notebook computer with OziExplorer installed.
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Follow Up By: Pete Jackman (SA) - Tuesday, Jun 14, 2011 at 17:38

Tuesday, Jun 14, 2011 at 17:38
"As a general rule, the further North you are, the larger number of satellites your GPS can acquire"

That's strictly correct but unless you are travelling in the polar regions there is no practical difference - see here for more detial:

http://www.kowoma.de/en/gps/orbits.htm

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Reply By: olcoolone - Tuesday, Jun 14, 2011 at 17:15

Tuesday, Jun 14, 2011 at 17:15
That's OK Brodie.... I'll answer your question if some can't understand it LOL!

GPS will work anywhere, but there are really four different types used in 4x4 applications.

The first one is the factory or aftermarket in car type (in dash or windscreen mounted TomTom/Nuvi), these are good for city navigation offering voice and point to point navigation but not much use off road as they don't show all the tracks or roads in all areas and the factory ones don't have the facility to add more complex maps, the aftermarket ones some do and some don't.

The second one is the everyday hand held type (Magellan/Garmin) that can take extra maps and some offer voice and point to point navigation but the down side is there small screen.

The third one is one like the Hema navigator that has the advantages of the two above but still offers limited functions.

The fourth one is a laptop that can do everything the three above can plus more and you have a wider selection of maps and data available but you have to have a separate GPS engine/mouse.

So in other words not many factory navigation systems work well outside of cities and the typical $299 TomTom types are much the same, Hema Navigator is good and a laptop is best.
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Follow Up By: vk1dx - Tuesday, Jun 14, 2011 at 17:45

Tuesday, Jun 14, 2011 at 17:45
I would not say that a laptop is the best. Its a pain to set up a rear view camera and is does not have a very good radio in it.

Also in a prang it has a habit of flying around. You say that there are mounts for them. I have noticed that not all actually use their mounts.

Just a word to the wise it would be better if he told us hwat he wants. Agps location or map thing or whatever.

Phil
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Follow Up By: Member - Joe n Mel n kids (FNQ - Tuesday, Jun 14, 2011 at 21:21

Tuesday, Jun 14, 2011 at 21:21
yes second both (to a degree) the laptop is the best, but made for your house and not for your car, mounts are a pain in the butt unless you travel alone, they are big and take up space and unless you buy something like a Panasonic toughbooks you will end up stuffing it... and yes i have tried it...
See 2 threads below that point you to a good and cheap system..

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Reply By: Outback Gazz - Tuesday, Jun 14, 2011 at 17:36

Tuesday, Jun 14, 2011 at 17:36
G'day Brodie -check out thread no. 86959 and then buy a good map !!

Happy travelling

Gazz
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Follow Up By: TerraFirma - Tuesday, Jun 14, 2011 at 21:18

Tuesday, Jun 14, 2011 at 21:18
One can only hope he knows how to check out another thread Gazz. He hasn't posted specific information about what he wants other than does he need a special GPS? Thread 86959 questions all sorts of things, not sure how that answers Brodies question.
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Follow Up By: Outback Gazz - Tuesday, Jun 14, 2011 at 21:35

Tuesday, Jun 14, 2011 at 21:35
Howdy Terra - That thread basically says that people today rely too much on electronics / gadgetry and other peoples thoughts and opinions etc. My tongue in cheek reply was to simplify things and get back to basics. Just by using my odometer, 2 trip meters and being able to read a map ( something a lot of 4wd owners can't do these days ) I can pretty much get within a 100 metres of my travelling companions GPS coordinates - which for 95% of outback travel is all you need !

All the best

Gazz

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Follow Up By: TerraFirma - Tuesday, Jun 14, 2011 at 21:42

Tuesday, Jun 14, 2011 at 21:42
Yes makes sense Gazz a good map , good GPS and appropriate sat phone or other comms device, contrary to the other thread good planning is a godsend imo.
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Follow Up By: Outback Gazz - Tuesday, Jun 14, 2011 at 22:05

Tuesday, Jun 14, 2011 at 22:05
G'day Terra - I wasn't suggesting Brodie not take a GPS - it's certainly up to the individual on what they are comfortable with or without. I own and run a 4wd tour company that specialises in Central Australia and have yet felt the need to take a GPS. YES - I have occasionally gone the wrong way but common sense soon tells me I'm off track - simple things like - the sun was on our right before or behind us or we should have passed a ruin or homestead by now according to the map. I guess I must be a bit odd coz I can't see the fun in always getting to your destination on time and or without side tracking. When all else fails I always head to the nearest bush pub ( for directions only of course )

Cheers

Gazz
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