Shower Tents and Waste Water
Submitted: Friday, Jun 17, 2011 at 13:36
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Dede1
Hi all - I am about to ask a dumb question. How do you store your waste water when you have a shower in a shower tent. I have a canvas shower (one you hang over a tree branch) fantastic shower, not interested in upgrading for the amount of times we use it. I wish to purchase a shower tent but have found the only ones that have a removable roof have built in floors. What do you do with the waste water and how do you dry the inside of your shower tent. I'm not interested in standing in a bucket (feet are too big). Do you use a flat bin to contain water. I'm thinking about
bush camping here and LNT. Let me know what you all do!
Thanks
Dede1
Reply By: Member -Pinko (NSW) - Friday, Jun 17, 2011 at 13:44
Friday, Jun 17, 2011 at 13:44
Hi Dede 1
I have a BCF shower tent. The floor has a square section to stand on surrounded by a mesh section to let the water out. however I still have to put a double thickness of blue tarp under that to stop the three cornered jacks comming through.
To dry it a rope between two trees works ok.
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Reply By: Robin Miller - Friday, Jun 17, 2011 at 13:51
Friday, Jun 17, 2011 at 13:51
We let waste water run into ground DeDe1.
But by having a bucket nearby and other measures I think our water loss is
under 4lt/shower.
By choosing a good site and away from river in never gets muddy and we use those foam holed floor mats to keep feet off ground.
Our shower tent uses regular poles and has a roof option , and no floor.
came from Rays about $70.
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Follow Up By: The Landy - Friday, Jun 17, 2011 at 14:38
Friday, Jun 17, 2011 at 14:38
Robin,
You've saved me! I took a mat out of 'The Landy' the other day, ahead of next week's trip, because I couldn't think of why it was there...
Mrs Landy's shower mat!
Cheers...
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Reply By: Member - David 1 - Friday, Jun 17, 2011 at 13:54
Friday, Jun 17, 2011 at 13:54
Hi Dede 1,
Had 2 shower tents at different times, different brands too. Neither of them had floors. We stood on a 30mm thick rubber mat. Guess it was more like lots of holes separated by narrow webbing. Kept ones feet out of the slush. Just needed a pair of high-soled thongs to walk off in. A set up like this does not have any waste water.
Hope this helps.
Cheers,
David1
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Follow Up By: Dede1 - Friday, Jun 17, 2011 at 14:00
Friday, Jun 17, 2011 at 14:00
Thank you all for your replies. I'll look for the shower tent without the floor as a preferable option. Already have the mat with holes (use this with a tarp around poles as a tent) but want to upgrade to a shower tent (pop up version).
Once again thank you.
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Follow Up By: Madfisher - Friday, Jun 17, 2011 at 14:13
Friday, Jun 17, 2011 at 14:13
Dede I have found the pop up shower tents hopeless as they can only hold up a couple of litres of water. any more and they collaspe.
Cheers Pete
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Follow Up By: Dede1 - Friday, Jun 17, 2011 at 14:24
Friday, Jun 17, 2011 at 14:24
Pete,
I'm not intending on hanging the shower from the tent. As I said we have a canvas shower bag with lovely big shower rose. We hang this from a tree with the tent underneath. Have to say, this is a fantastic shower and never use more than a bag full of water, 1 billy's worth of very hot water and 1 of cold, perfect temperature.
Thanks for the reply
Dede1
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Follow Up By: Member - Noldi (WA) - Friday, Jun 17, 2011 at 15:09
Friday, Jun 17, 2011 at 15:09
picked up a couple of wooden "duck boards" from bunnings 500mm sq, keeps you out of the mud, likewise all
mine have had no floor
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Follow Up By: Gregh2 - Saturday, Jun 18, 2011 at 13:46
Saturday, Jun 18, 2011 at 13:46
Hey DeDe
I use a big black recycling bin (courtesy of local council) plugged drain holes, installing lpg fired water heater with 12v pump inside shower tent. Bride has wonderful shower at 46 degrees and no wasted water. Works a treat. Bin then used as storage box when not in use as a shower. Packs
well into garage or Pajero.
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Reply By: Member - Graham N (SA) - Friday, Jun 17, 2011 at 17:25
Friday, Jun 17, 2011 at 17:25
Hi Dede1,
we use half a light weight pallet for the floor and it doesn't take up much room upside down when not in use on the pack rack.
Cheers
Graham
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Reply By: Motherhen - Friday, Jun 17, 2011 at 20:37
Friday, Jun 17, 2011 at 20:37
Hi Dede
Some LNT
camp grounds specifiy no water on the ground including stating no outdoor showers. Berrima River Reserve in NSW is one such
camp.
Motherhen
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Follow Up By: OutBack Wanderers - Friday, Jun 17, 2011 at 21:21
Friday, Jun 17, 2011 at 21:21
After reading your answer we are at a loss on why.
Is it because of soap, I can imagine a giant umbrella over BRR, sounds stupid, what about rain and its next to a river, is this PC going too far?
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Follow Up By: Motherhen - Friday, Jun 17, 2011 at 21:38
Friday, Jun 17, 2011 at 21:38
Hi OutBack Wanderers
In view of the
places we have camped, i quite agree, but i have been told that some free camps in the eastern states get high usage, and soggy ground where people want to walk and
camp can be a problem. Most of the time we
camp where it is dry, and any water on the ground is soon completely evaporated. In areas when it is raining, a few more drops won't make any difference.
At this stage only a few campgrounds are for the exclusive use of LNT certified rigs.
CMCA Leave No Trace
Extract "All
grey and black water MUST be retained in holding tanks or suitable sealable containers at all times, unless permitted to drain
grey water onto the ground by a controlling authority."
Motherhen
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Follow Up By: OutBack Wanderers - Friday, Jun 17, 2011 at 21:44
Friday, Jun 17, 2011 at 21:44
Thank you
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Follow Up By: have a go - Saturday, Jun 18, 2011 at 20:57
Saturday, Jun 18, 2011 at 20:57
Ah thats what a self contained vehicle means in the camps 5 book. Learn something new everyday
Thanks Motherhen.
Cheers
Oldgirl.
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Reply By: Drew - Karratha - Friday, Jun 17, 2011 at 20:56
Friday, Jun 17, 2011 at 20:56
Hi DeDe1
Where is 'here'? I had to (for the second time tonight) google something - LNT - Leave No Trace. I have never heard of it before... If -like Motherhen said, there are to be no outside showers, I'm not sure what you can do. I have a battery powered shower that i use warm water from a bucket, and my pop-up shower tent has no floor in it - the waste water goes on the ground...
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Reply By: Member - Gordon T (NSW) - Friday, Jun 17, 2011 at 21:54
Friday, Jun 17, 2011 at 21:54
We find that 2-4 litres of warm water (in a large soft plastic bucket) driven by a Primus 12v shower head drawing water from the bucket is adequate for a good shower. Most of the water falls back into the bucket and can be re-used, but obviously not for human consumption. On the shower tent floor, foam pads with holes therein drain away any splashed water & keep the footsies clean.
GT
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Reply By: Sand Man (SA) - Friday, Jun 17, 2011 at 22:14
Friday, Jun 17, 2011 at 22:14
Although our shower tent has no floor, we use a large rectangular tub of a capacity of 50 litres or so. I call this tub a "crab bucket and when not used for showering purposes, it is used to store a myriad of camping gear.
We maybe use about 25-20 litres or so of water at a time.
Heat sufficient water on the
camp fire, add cold water to adjust the temperature to suit and herself has first shower. I use the recirculated water which is fine by me. Most of the water remains in
the tub and what doesn't just seeps into the ground. We use a 900mm square rubber mat to stand on when towelling down and feel suitably refreshed (and clean) afterwards.
The waste water is then tipped out if remaining at
camp, or used to put out the
camp fire if breaking
camp.
We don't shower every day however and find two or three days between showers works for us.
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Follow Up By: Dede1 - Tuesday, Jun 21, 2011 at 12:34
Tuesday, Jun 21, 2011 at 12:34
Sand Man
Thats the kind of answer I was after. My main concern was what to do with the "grey" water after you had a shower. Crab bucket sounds like a good idea. I'll keep an eye out for one. Yes when
free camping we don't shower every day either.
Thanks for everyones replies.
Dede1
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Follow Up By: Sand Man (SA) - Tuesday, Jun 21, 2011 at 18:31
Tuesday, Jun 21, 2011 at 18:31
Dede1,
The "crab bucket" I refer to is a rectangular tub with a capacity of about 55 litres.
Readily available at Bunnings but also can be bought at fishing stores.
Opaque or black are the two most common colours.
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Reply By: OREJAP - Saturday, Jun 18, 2011 at 00:29
Saturday, Jun 18, 2011 at 00:29
Water on the ground 100 metres from any water way is legal. Shower tent with floor dry inside of shower tent with towel or with the roof section off wait for it to dry by itself.
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Follow Up By: Member - Gordon T (NSW) - Saturday, Jun 18, 2011 at 20:46
Saturday, Jun 18, 2011 at 20:46
OREJAP: Under what law is "water on the ground within 100m from any water way" , illegal - please explain??? Stupid yes, if it has soaps/detergents in it.
Gordon T.
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Reply By: OREJAP - Saturday, Jun 18, 2011 at 22:54
Saturday, Jun 18, 2011 at 22:54
Yep I knew there would be someone lurking....my fault should have dotted my i & crossed my t....yes we are talking showers are we not..sooooo...if you are taking a shower & using soap or any form of chemical within 100 metres of a water course....river or creek then in Victoria you are illegal. Parks & the DSE take a very dim view of this. So my answer to Dede1 is if you don't wish to store water & wish to allow the water to go to ground do so 100 metres away from the river or whatever.....like wise when you throw the washing up water onto the ground after YOU do the dishes within the 100 mtrs. Keep smiling.
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Follow Up By: Dede1 - Tuesday, Jun 21, 2011 at 12:40
Tuesday, Jun 21, 2011 at 12:40
Orejap
Thanks for the reply. Next time we are in National Park and do the shower bit I will take the 100 metres rule into account. Have free camped on properties a lot but never in a National park. Thanks for all the replies.
Dede1
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Reply By: A G - SA - Sunday, Jun 19, 2011 at 07:48
Sunday, Jun 19, 2011 at 07:48
We use a handheld 12V shower and it's probably around 3L per person when we share the billy. You can get a pretty good shower with 3L- wet down with a face cloth, bubble up (use biodegradable stuff if you prefer), rinse off and don't collect the water.
However, if you are really concerned about LNT, or water use in general, why not just have a bird bath- half a litre of warm water in a tub, a face cloth, a few baby wipes for your bits and you can get really clean.
BTW, our shower tent has a removable plastic floor- it is an Oztrail brand one. I hang the floor on the outside of the tent with a couple of pegs and it dries off quick smart. It's easy then just to pack it up when we are ready to go.
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