Road trains and push bikes on out back roads.

Submitted: Monday, Jun 20, 2011 at 18:35
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G'day all

My bride and I went to Kunnunarra on the weekend and were suprised to see pushbikes between Kunnunarra and Halls Creek.

The other day I went for a bit of a walk along the highway just outside of HC and even though I was a fair way off the road I was still 'pulled along'.

My question is how do push bikes and the drivers of road trains handle this potentially dangerous?

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Reply By: Fred G NSW - Monday, Jun 20, 2011 at 18:52

Monday, Jun 20, 2011 at 18:52
Have a look at my rig pic. I am parked alongside a roadtrain at Cadney Park Roadhouse.

How would anyone like to be on a pushy while he's alongside you. Bad enough in a car or 4WD.

Many of us have encountered these monsters, and have a huge respect for them, and as long as all drivers do the right thing.....the feeling is mutual. You know.....COMMON SENSE!!!!!

Some members here are also former/current drivers of these vehicles, aren't we Dave, out there at Broken Hill?

Good post Boo Boo.

Cheers Fred.



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Reply By: disco driver - Monday, Jun 20, 2011 at 19:21

Monday, Jun 20, 2011 at 19:21
Any cyclist who is travelling on outback roads will have a strategy for dealing with road trains.
Stop, get off the road and wait.
The ones who haven't learnt this are either in hospital or dead.............or soon will be!

Cyclists found on remote roads and tracks are usually very experienced and capable, well able to take care of themselves
Provided of course that the road trains, cars with caravans, and big mobile hotels give them a bit of room and respect as they go past.

It's a totally different story in the cities, where the lycra loonies think that they own the whole road, red lights don't apply to them and cars and pedestrians are fair game.

There I've had my bitch, feel better now.

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Follow Up By: have a go - Monday, Jun 20, 2011 at 20:31

Monday, Jun 20, 2011 at 20:31
Well said.
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Follow Up By: Member - TJ (VIC) - Tuesday, Jun 21, 2011 at 16:46

Tuesday, Jun 21, 2011 at 16:46
Disagree, massive generalisation.
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Follow Up By: disco driver - Tuesday, Jun 21, 2011 at 23:11

Tuesday, Jun 21, 2011 at 23:11
TJ
If you are commenting about the cyclists on remote roads you will note that I use the words "most" and "usually" so of course it's a generalisation, but it is based on my experience.

If however you are commenting on the lycra loonies, my comments bear out my experiences and I do not back away from them (my comments, not the cyclists that is).

End of story.

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Follow Up By: Fatso - Wednesday, Jun 22, 2011 at 16:45

Wednesday, Jun 22, 2011 at 16:45
Interesting stats recently released.
60% of cyclists killed on Australian roads are hit from behind by a vehicle.
15% are killed at intersections predominately because of vehicles failing to give way.
In 85% of collisions between a vehicle & cyclist where the police attend the vehicle driver is given an infringement notice.

So who is reckless on the road.
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Reply By: MattyA_LC105 - Monday, Jun 20, 2011 at 20:17

Monday, Jun 20, 2011 at 20:17
I see quite a few on the Great Northern Hwy and the GRR on work trips. Funny how most of them are travelling west to east with a constant headwind hitting them. Haven't seen many get off the road, in fact I have come across a few on the GRR riding down the middle of the road. Not really smart this time of the season with the cattle & fuel road trains using it frequently since it opened up.
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Reply By: Dave B ( BHQ NSW) - Monday, Jun 20, 2011 at 20:25

Monday, Jun 20, 2011 at 20:25
Fortunately cyclists out there travelling along roads with roadtrains have generally got flouro jackets and flags etc... so that they can be seen a fair way off.
That's my experience anyway.
Goodness knows what wind currents are generated by the various configurations of roadtrains, tankers, stock crates, pantechs etc, but I tried to get to the other lane to pass cyclists.
If there was another vehicle coming towards us I would give a short blast on the horn to let the cyclist know I was coming along, although I would imagine the cyclist would hear me coming.
Even now with just my CT on the back, I still change lanes if at all possible when passing a cyclist.
They might be very experienced cyclists, but the wind can push you anywhere.
Give them plenty of room.
As Fred has said, it is hard enough in a car when you have a roadtrain go past you, especially on a windy day.

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Follow Up By: Member - TJ (VIC) - Tuesday, Jun 21, 2011 at 16:48

Tuesday, Jun 21, 2011 at 16:48
Well said.
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Reply By: Member - Mark (Tamworth NSW) - Monday, Jun 20, 2011 at 20:44

Monday, Jun 20, 2011 at 20:44
I would have thought the swinging rear trailer was the problem more so than the woosh. Admittedly they are only doing 60km/hr inside Tamworth, but B doubles don't cause me any woosh problems when I'm on my trealdy (push bike)
Stock trucks aren't pleasant when it's been raining or the stock have been on lush feed !

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Follow Up By: landseka - Monday, Jun 20, 2011 at 21:11

Monday, Jun 20, 2011 at 21:11
"I would have thought the swinging rear trailer was the problem more so than the woosh"

......and truckies have the cheek to call caravans "wobblies". They should see themselves from behind sometimes. lol

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Follow Up By: Member - Kevin S (QLD) - Tuesday, Jun 21, 2011 at 09:15

Tuesday, Jun 21, 2011 at 09:15
A lot of people should see themselves from behind ... particularly in lycra on a push bike.
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Follow Up By: Alloy c/t - Tuesday, Jun 21, 2011 at 10:03

Tuesday, Jun 21, 2011 at 10:03
Big difference between a B double on the tar and a 3-4 trailer road train on the dirt , bit like comparing a small mandarine with a grapefruit.
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Follow Up By: Member - Mark (Tamworth NSW) - Tuesday, Jun 21, 2011 at 22:22

Tuesday, Jun 21, 2011 at 22:22
Long time since I have been there but I thought Kununurra to Halls Ck was all bitumen not dirt. The initiator of this thread was all about the air disturbance caused by the vacuum post large vehicle?
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Follow Up By: Member - Doug T (NT) - Thursday, Jun 23, 2011 at 09:41

Thursday, Jun 23, 2011 at 09:41
Swinging rear trailer my ass.... I have travelled behind many Roadtrains and 99% of them are so straight you'd think it was only 1 trailer until it goes through a corner or a creek. The modern setups are much refined from the 1960's .

Watch this and see if the trailers are swinging



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Follow Up By: landseka - Thursday, Jun 23, 2011 at 10:25

Thursday, Jun 23, 2011 at 10:25
Of course you think that EVERYTHING you see in a tv commercial is gospel too...lol

Have you heard of 'creative editing'?

With today's video & photo editing software you just cannot believe everything you see on a pc or tv.

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Follow Up By: Member - Doug T (NT) - Thursday, Jun 23, 2011 at 10:56

Thursday, Jun 23, 2011 at 10:56
Neil
I guess you know , and I would presume you have driven one, but I'm not going to argue on the Forum , thanks for your input.

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Reply By: CSeaJay - Tuesday, Jun 21, 2011 at 09:12

Tuesday, Jun 21, 2011 at 09:12
My son is adventurous
He has on three occasions now done camping road trips on his push-bikes, heading West QLD.
He wears High Visibility Vest
They hear a road train from a far way off
They stop, get well off the road and wait for it to pass
Then they have a yarn to the road train driver on the UHF hand-held

All good fun, much better than playing playstation for a whole holiday, and not dangerous at all when the above common sense prevails

CJ
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Reply By: The Landy - Tuesday, Jun 21, 2011 at 10:13

Tuesday, Jun 21, 2011 at 10:13
I’ll let you know how I go via my blog...

‘The Landy’ heads off for the Gulf this Friday, and I have the mountain bike packed and will be riding it at every opportunity, adding that I intend to ride on the more out of the way places, but might pull it out at anytime depending on conditions.

I’ll have a hand-held UHF – and my strategy for dealing with anything metal travelling my way is simple, get out of the way, self-preservation lends towards that as a strategy!

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Reply By: ExplorOz - David & Michelle - Tuesday, Jun 21, 2011 at 13:47

Tuesday, Jun 21, 2011 at 13:47
this sounds like a post for TriathlonOz.com !!

For those that don't know, we have created another website, based on ExplorOz, but for the multisport market. The cyclists would LOVE to read this post, so I urge you to go and have a discussion over there too.

(PS: I own both sites so I am allowed to self promote - LOL)

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Reply By: get outmore - Tuesday, Jun 21, 2011 at 15:53

Tuesday, Jun 21, 2011 at 15:53
dont need to be out bush to mix it with the big boys

I regulary ride along abernathy road and between the tonkin highway overpass and leach highway is nerve wracking with fully loaded b doubles passing you within inches, turbos screaming in your ear as they work the gears off from the lights

- I just stick to the edge and hope

although its more the small flatbeds i worry about - no where near as skilled truckies on very tight multi drop schedules
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