Water storage

Hi

We are planning our big trip up the centre for next year and were looking at a 120lt water tank to go in the back of the hilux but have since read some good advice about not having all our water in the one tank. Which is a good idea but I was thinking that maybe as we will have it in the back of the hilux and not underneath it will be alot safer?

The 120lt will also save some space too as its only 17cm wide whereas the 2 seperate ones would be approx 33cm.

What are your thoughts and experiences.

Cheers
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Reply By: Member - Oldbaz. NSW. - Tuesday, Jul 05, 2011 at 16:12

Tuesday, Jul 05, 2011 at 16:12
Unless you are going to a very remote & waterless area I dont see any reason to lump
120Kg plus weight of tank around. We carry 2 by 20l plastic drums..one of good old rain water for our tea & drinking, & the other for washing/showering etc. We refill at
parks,servos..wherever as required, & have never run short. If you intend doing the
CSR or Simpson etc, you would ,of course carry extra as availability & safety dictate.
If you think you may need more than this, carry empty containers & fill as necessary.
To cart more only uses fuel & space...IMHO....cheers...oldbaz.
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Follow Up By: Litlbalt - Tuesday, Jul 05, 2011 at 16:40

Tuesday, Jul 05, 2011 at 16:40
We will be doing the oodnadatta, simpson and birdsville with 2 adults and 2 kids and with the rations of 10lt/day/person. We haven't done a remote area trip and we really dont want to get stranded and not have enough especially with the kids.

That's why I thought I would ask here to see what others have taken while out in these places. The empties are a great idea cheers for your advice.
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Follow Up By: AlbyNSW - Tuesday, Jul 05, 2011 at 18:39

Tuesday, Jul 05, 2011 at 18:39
We have done the same trip with two adults and two teenagers. 75 litre tank was fine. Plus we carry a separate container with A1 quality drinking water. Apart from in the Simpson itself there is ample of opportunities to replenish supply
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Follow Up By: Mark C - Tuesday, Jul 05, 2011 at 20:42

Tuesday, Jul 05, 2011 at 20:42
Seperate tanks does give you the ability to seperate poor quality water from good drinking water.
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Follow Up By: Robin Miller - Wednesday, Jul 06, 2011 at 07:42

Wednesday, Jul 06, 2011 at 07:42
"10lt /person/day "

Wow LitBalt - We live in different worlds , we plan on 2 and historically used about 1.7 (thats cause I like a lot of coffee).

Will soon be out of touch for 2 weeks and have just brought our water from supermarket in 5 X 10lt casks , this guarantees the water is healthy as well as protects against damage.

But then we don't shower or wash up with it.







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Follow Up By: Litlbalt - Wednesday, Jul 06, 2011 at 10:08

Wednesday, Jul 06, 2011 at 10:08
That was the max amount, as I said we haven't done outback travelling before and this was the first amount needed /person I read but have since seen 5lt and 2lt per person its so hard what info to listen to as with 2 young kids we dont want to run out etc.
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Follow Up By: Robin Miller - Wednesday, Jul 06, 2011 at 13:03

Wednesday, Jul 06, 2011 at 13:03
Our 2lt/day is at the lower limit Litbalt, and only suitable for those can realistically keep it to necessaties.

Unlike us who will be not see any civilization or even a river for more than a week your trip sounds like you won't be away from a water source for more than a day or 2 so its much less critical and more a conveinace factor .

5lt would be your max upper limit.

Good training is to give everyone a personnal water bottle which they get to fill up every morning.

An advantage of using casks is that you can easily and effectively see how much you use and adjust.





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Reply By: Tonyfish#58 - Tuesday, Jul 05, 2011 at 17:22

Tuesday, Jul 05, 2011 at 17:22
2 x under-tray water tanks that also serve as a mud flap might be the way to go. I have 2 x 50ltr.

They are the ones in front of the hheels, but you can get them to go behind as well

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Cheers Tony
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Follow Up By: Litlbalt - Tuesday, Jul 05, 2011 at 17:31

Tuesday, Jul 05, 2011 at 17:31
And you haven't had a problem with them cracking or ground clearance/angle if on the back or whatever you have on the back
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Follow Up By: Tonyfish#58 - Tuesday, Jul 05, 2011 at 17:46

Tuesday, Jul 05, 2011 at 17:46
No - No trouble with the water tanks and they have done 110,000k now. The tool boxes on the rear I have bumped around a bit. They are 10mm thick plastic.

Got them from Fleabay at a good price - You would have to search for them now here are some 30ltr ones 30 ltr

Here is the 50 ltr I have - Now has its own site

50 ltr
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Follow Up By: Litlbalt - Tuesday, Jul 05, 2011 at 17:54

Tuesday, Jul 05, 2011 at 17:54
Thanks for the info. That is where we were looking at getting the bigger tank so is good to know your ones have lasted and are still going.
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Follow Up By: Litlbalt - Tuesday, Jul 05, 2011 at 18:16

Tuesday, Jul 05, 2011 at 18:16
Bugger just looked at Hubby's ute and they wont fit infront of the tyres.
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Follow Up By: Tonyfish#58 - Tuesday, Jul 05, 2011 at 18:25

Tuesday, Jul 05, 2011 at 18:25
Bummer :-)
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Reply By: Polaris - Tuesday, Jul 05, 2011 at 20:05

Tuesday, Jul 05, 2011 at 20:05
Litlbalt - you are on the right track with your thoughts of 2 isolated tanks.

About 20 years ago I made the mistake of having a 100L stainless tank custom made for our Bravo (at the time) prior to a central Australian trip - Tanami and Simpson desert.

The first problem that we encountered was when we elected to NOT top up the tank at Purnie Bore. This would have meant we were adding about 30 litres of bore water on top of 70 litres of nice fresh drinking water we had been carrying. So rather than make a 'brew' we elected not to add the extra water.

Futher into our trip, one of our traveling companions vehicles broke a rear main leaf. So the rest of us helped by lightening his load as much as we could.
We took as much fresh water from him so as to fill our 100 L tank.

The second problem came about I feel because I had failed to leave any 'ullage' (spare room) in the tank and the sloshing caused the tank to split on one of the welded seams. Fortunately it wasn't a bottom seam - but we lost a considerable amount of precious water.

On our return home I had the tank cut in half and ended up with 2 X 50 litre tanks - completely isolated and it then gave us the option of transferring good drinking water all into one tank if we needed to top up from bore, creek or dam.

2 tanks - definitely the way to go - and not all the eggs in one basket.
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Reply By: Motherhen - Wednesday, Jul 06, 2011 at 00:10

Wednesday, Jul 06, 2011 at 00:10
Hi Litlbalt

Unless going to somewhere dry and remote for some time, you will be able to obtain water regularly. Prior to our present caravan, we travelled with a couple of jerry cans; one for drinking water and one for general water. It is also easier to take a jerry can or two to a water source and fill than to fill large tray mounted water tanks. Also if you are in areas where water is short, most places will let you fill a jerry can, but may baulk at you filling a large tank. Fees for water apply in some places.

We opt for using less water when in remote dry areas. It might be harder with children, but we can manage on very few litres water per day (plus drinking water). This allows for a full wash every night.Water economy

As the article heading linked to your post says, an alternate tank for water of poorer quality is needed, aside from an leakage issues.

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Reply By: Litlbalt - Wednesday, Jul 06, 2011 at 10:12

Wednesday, Jul 06, 2011 at 10:12
Thanks for all your info. We have decided to have a smaller tank and then have a couple of jerry's one full and another empty to fill if we feel we need more.

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Follow Up By: AlbyNSW - Wednesday, Jul 06, 2011 at 13:35

Wednesday, Jul 06, 2011 at 13:35
I think that is a much more flexible option.
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