LPG Hose Connection
Submitted: Tuesday, Jul 05, 2011 at 17:44
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Member - Wayne B (NSW)
I have a 3 burner gas stove it connects direct to gas bottle no regulator is used. There appears to be some kind of built in flow restricter in the hose but the pressure is not regulated
I want to connect the stove to my larger LPG bottle which has the larger outlet for a regulator to screw into..
My question is do I nee to run a regulator or not to connect to this stove. If I do use a regulator will the pressure be too low to run the stove .
Thanks for your advice.
Cheers
Wayne B
Reply By: Notso - Tuesday, Jul 05, 2011 at 18:19
Tuesday, Jul 05, 2011 at 18:19
You can buy an adapter at camping shops.
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Follow Up By: Notso - Tuesday, Jul 05, 2011 at 18:20
Tuesday, Jul 05, 2011 at 18:20
Sorry, no you don't need a regulator
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Reply By: Nomadic Navara - Tuesday, Jul 05, 2011 at 19:21
Tuesday, Jul 05, 2011 at 19:21
Wayne, the gas controls in your stove are different to those in a low pressure stove. The stove simply will not work off a low pressure system. I don't know what these adaptors are that Notso was rabbiting on about.Maybe he can give us some URLs to them.
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Follow Up By: Bigfish - Tuesday, Jul 05, 2011 at 19:46
Tuesday, Jul 05, 2011 at 19:46
Only read these froum threads occaisionally. Its statements like " Notso was rabbitting on about" that turn people off. Makes the replier seem like a bloody know all and automatically labels the other person as a dimwit. Put brain in gear first can help before slinging off.
cheers
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Follow Up By: Shaker - Tuesday, Jul 05, 2011 at 19:50
Tuesday, Jul 05, 2011 at 19:50
He was hardly "rabbiting on".
He was just referring to a basic adaptor which would be POL to whatever the existing bottle is.
As far as a URL, why not do your own search for gas bottle adaptors?
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Follow Up By: On Patrol & TONI - Tuesday, Jul 05, 2011 at 19:59
Tuesday, Jul 05, 2011 at 19:59
"rabbiting on"
Not necessary Peter, unless you know him
well and were trying to be funny.
JMHO.
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Follow Up By: On Patrol & TONI - Tuesday, Jul 05, 2011 at 20:04
Tuesday, Jul 05, 2011 at 20:04
Bigfish
Don't be put off by this (Its statements like " Notso was rabbiting on about") it happens on all forums from time to time. Some contributors just do it and I think they don't see a problem with it unfortunately.
Cheers Colin.
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Follow Up By: Notso - Tuesday, Jul 05, 2011 at 21:06
Tuesday, Jul 05, 2011 at 21:06
Ah
well, he was probably not aware af the true meaning of rabbiting on. There are quite a few meanings attributed to Rabbiting On but I thought this one was the best!
rabbit on phrasal verb
UK informal disapproving
Definition
to continue talking about something which is not interesting to the listener
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Reply By: Sand Man (SA) - Tuesday, Jul 05, 2011 at 19:44
Tuesday, Jul 05, 2011 at 19:44
Hi Wayne,
Your gas stove is a "high pressure" system and as such no regulator is used.
The restrictor in the end of the hose and/or the jets in the stove control the pressure.
You can buy an adaptor from the POL fitting on the gas cylinder to the 3/8" fitting on the gas stove hose. These are common and readily available.
Just as an aside for future reference, the high pressure stoves are not as flexible as the low pressure ones (such as the Coleman) controlled by a regulator.
The jets in a high pressure stove are susceptible to contamination from dust, etc. and infinite control of the flame is not as good.
A low pressure stove operates consistently and it is possible to infinitely control the flame on individual burners from a low simmer to a full flame, or one of each on a two burner stove. As there are no jets at the burner on a low pressure stove there is nothing to block up. You can operate the stove (with the inclusion of an adaptor) from a smaller gas bottle (3/8" fitting) or a larger cylinder (POL fitting)
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Follow Up By: Member - Toyocrusa (NSW) - Tuesday, Jul 05, 2011 at 20:03
Tuesday, Jul 05, 2011 at 20:03
Hi Bill. I went to an AGL gas store to buy a POL adaptor and a gas technician told me my new Coleman two burner stove was a High pressure one so would not run through the caravan regulator. I was trying to do away with carrying a separate bottle for it. I have a bayonet fitting on the van. I said to the guy, ok, I will run a line direct to the bayonet fitting from the main bottle. His reply was that the bayonet fitting would not withstand direct bottle pressure. Are you saying the Coleman is LOW pressure. It would be good if you are correct. Thanks,Bob.
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Follow Up By: Mark C - Tuesday, Jul 05, 2011 at 20:37
Tuesday, Jul 05, 2011 at 20:37
On the subject of Colemans, I connected my Coleman to the out side of the Caravan regulator and found it would not work had to reconnect to gas line before regulator and it works
well.
regards
Mark
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Follow Up By: Shaker - Tuesday, Jul 05, 2011 at 20:45
Tuesday, Jul 05, 2011 at 20:45
Doesn't the Coleman hose have it's own built in regulator? I know
mine does.
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Follow Up By: Member - Toyocrusa (NSW) - Tuesday, Jul 05, 2011 at 20:58
Tuesday, Jul 05, 2011 at 20:58
The Coleman does have a regulator but the gas guy said it is set at a higher pressure than the van regulator,hence it needs to run off bottle pressure. He then said that a bayonet fitting will not withstand bottle pressure. What connection are you using Mark C. Thanks,Bob.
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Follow Up By: Mark C - Tuesday, Jul 05, 2011 at 20:59
Tuesday, Jul 05, 2011 at 20:59
Mine doesnt seem to. In any case
mine will not work on regulated gas, unregulated only.
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Follow Up By: Sand Man (SA) - Tuesday, Jul 05, 2011 at 23:05
Tuesday, Jul 05, 2011 at 23:05
Bob,
You need to use the Coleman regular that is supplied with the stove.
Mine came with a rigid pipe adaptor to run the stove from the small disposable cylinders. You can also buy a Coleman hose adaptor which enables you to connect the stove to a 3/8" fitting, or with the POL adaptor, to a larger bottle.
However, you cannot use a "standard" caravan style regulator.
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Reply By: TTD1 - Tuesday, Jul 05, 2011 at 20:00
Tuesday, Jul 05, 2011 at 20:00
Wayne B
Sandman is pretty close with comments and identified the difference between high and low pressure appliances. To run your HP stove off the larger cylinder you will need a POL to Companion adaptor, the thread is left hand on the small end as
well as on the big end. You will get these at BCF or Annaconda.
Regards
TTD1
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Reply By: Bushranger1 - Tuesday, Jul 05, 2011 at 20:19
Tuesday, Jul 05, 2011 at 20:19
Here you go Wayne. I have one of these.
Model No. GM003
Right angled adaptor to
convert a POL outlet to 3/8”
BSP-LH outlet
Jump on the Gasmate website & you will get a picture of it.
Cheers
Stu
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Follow Up By: wizzer73 - Tuesday, Jul 05, 2011 at 21:46
Tuesday, Jul 05, 2011 at 21:46
pol to 3/8"
just to help out
wizzer
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Follow Up By: wizzer73 - Tuesday, Jul 05, 2011 at 21:47
Tuesday, Jul 05, 2011 at 21:47
Should have added I bought one of these at BigW last year.
wizzer
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Reply By: Member - Wayne B (NSW) - Tuesday, Jul 05, 2011 at 22:06
Tuesday, Jul 05, 2011 at 22:06
Thank you to all who posted.
As usual information has been most helpful.
Thank you
:-)
Wayne B
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Reply By: Von Helga - Friday, Jul 08, 2011 at 15:05
Friday, Jul 08, 2011 at 15:05
Wayne,
Sandman,s comments are correct about the jets accasionally getting blocked. My gasmate 3 burner stove has one jet at each tap, different sizes to suit the size of the burner.
I carry a couple of spares, takes five minutes to fix and soaking the blocked one in white vinegar overnight usually clears them.
Cheers
Trevor
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