Barmah Lakes Campground

Submitted: Monday, Jul 11, 2011 at 11:10
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Hi Guys
Just got back from a weekend at Barmah Lake, we had a great time doing the tourist thing in Echuca on the Sat paddle boats, museums ect. On Sunday with the sun actually showing itself we had a quiet morning gathering wood,chatting to other campers, making important decisions about lunch, that kind of thing. Just got the fire stoked when the ranger pulls up, tells us that we have to leave as we are camped in a NP and our dog is not allowed.
Now he realised that all the campsite books had it down as a State park and therefore our dog was actually allowed, but they have recently moved the park boundary. As it was a recent change he kindly waived the fine but we had to be gone straight after lunch.
Even the information board at Barmah has us in a State park.
Such a shame to have our break ended so suddenly. Oh well it was a lovely campsite, just don't take your dog!

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Reply By: OREJAP - Monday, Jul 11, 2011 at 16:31

Monday, Jul 11, 2011 at 16:31
Hi Richard, Glad to hear part of your trip was eventful & enjoyable. Parks are a mixed bunch of people & do a great job under the circumstances. Mixed? Well one ranger will tell you one thing & the next ranger will tell you different. First of all Dogs are not allowed in state Parks. Then they will tell you that they are if on a lead. When you phone the Parks info line & enquire if dogs are allowed in a particular park you will get yes or no. If you do get a yes, don't be disapointed when you role up and the local ranger will tell you to leave the State Park because of your Dog. There has been a fair bit of "stealth" work being done arond the parks & just talking to locals in the river townships & you'll find that signs that declared State Forest (Dogs are allowed in all state Forests) that the sign is no longer there & replaced with State Park or National Park. DSE who control Parks Vic agreed years ago to sit down & consult with local clubs Four Wheel Drive Victoria & others but have not bothered to do so on all occassions. For what it's worth, along the Murray River, I think we all know that the River itself is NSW. The eastern bank (Low line) is still NSW apparently the High bank is the commencement of Victoria. Locals at Shepparton tell me that there is a high court ruling which stipulates the high water mark (not levy banks) is the actual border between Vic & NSW. The DSE & Parks Vic Rangers have no juridiction in NSW & like wise the DWS in NSW has no juridiction in Victoria. So here is the cunnundrum, if you are below the high water mark you think you are in Victoria but legally you are not & if you challenge Parks or DSE they won't give you an answer because they don't know!!! If people are causing trouble they call the Police because on every border, the Police have reciprocal rights & jurisdiction in each state. There is an article on this & it is discussed in the Caravanners Forum.
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Follow Up By: Member - Richard L (VIC) - Monday, Jul 11, 2011 at 16:52

Monday, Jul 11, 2011 at 16:52

Totally agree that Parks do a fantastic job.I am a bit unsure of all the rules which is why we consult the Camps book before setting up camp.I just find it a bit strange that the group who camped next to us were racing motor bikes on one wheel and partying until god knows what time are OK but my little spaniel .......?
Again I understand why the rules are in place and always camp where we are allowed, although it seems to be getting harder especially around the Otways where we are from.
The point you make about high tide marks is interesting as the recent flood level marks on the trees were about the same height as my daughter and went on for as far as the eye could see!
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Follow Up By: OREJAP - Monday, Jul 11, 2011 at 18:30

Monday, Jul 11, 2011 at 18:30
We experience undesirables where we go (not any more we wait till school holidays are finished & public Holidays end) I know a great deal more but I don't wish to go on about it. I have spoken with the DSE & Parks supervisors and I submitted a written submission in conjunction with their propsals to Govt. to get better conditions for all. I know some (who read this and hate authority) will "scold" me for this BUT, them more Rangers that patrol our Parks & deal with vandals & offenders who destroy our lovely Australia the better off we will all be. Those of us that do the right thing have nothing to fear. I think the reason why some of these hooligans do not get ejected from the parks is maybe the Rangers have not got the authority that they need to perform their tasks. I will await return fire!!!! Oh you mentioned the Otways, why was a certain camping spot closed recently never to be re-opened....vandals & hoolgans. I say, get their rego numbers & dob them in. Get video footage, use your phone. The camera doesn't lie!!!
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