Landcruiser FZJ105r

Submitted: Wednesday, Jul 13, 2011 at 20:11
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hey guys new to the site. Pretty keen on buying a FZJ105r to tow my new boat.
My price range is max 30k which put the turbo diesel way out of the question haha.
Does anyone have any input or good or bad things about the 4.5 petrol GXL's. I know they are thirsty but i guess that is something i wil have to deal with or maybe convert it to gas down the track.
Does anyone have any figure as in litre per 100 round town and city driving and also does anyone tow a boat or caravan around 1800kg to 2000kg if so what sort of range do you get from fuel tanks. Any info on these landcruiser would be really appreciated.

Thanks

Brad
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Reply By: Drew - Karratha - Wednesday, Jul 13, 2011 at 20:54

Wednesday, Jul 13, 2011 at 20:54
Sorry - I cant help with the petrol, but about a year ago I bought a 100 series factory Turbo Diesel for $32500 - 2001 model 4 speed auto GXL in immaculate cond - loving it... I get 16 - 18L per 100k's towing my 5m boat at the speed limit. If I take it easy around town about 11.5l per 100ks - if I use the power then about 13l/100....
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Reply By: nickb - Thursday, Jul 14, 2011 at 02:04

Thursday, Jul 14, 2011 at 02:04
A mate has a 4.5 100 series converted to a dual cab, 33" tyres and 3" lift. He gets around 20L/100km unloaded.

When towing his 2T work trailer around town, he gets about 28-30L/100km but he likes to keep up with traffic and sits on the speed limit regardless of any hills. Works out a bit over 400km to both tanks before he starts to get worried!
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Reply By: get outmore - Thursday, Jul 14, 2011 at 03:07

Thursday, Jul 14, 2011 at 03:07
biggest drawback is their old - at least 13 years old and have the previos models engine

for a mint example i wouldnt pay more than 10k considering 80 sweries of simular vintage petrols are 4-8k
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Follow Up By: fisho64 - Thursday, Jul 14, 2011 at 03:39

Thursday, Jul 14, 2011 at 03:39
shouldnt that be "at most 13 years old?"?
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Follow Up By: Crammo - Saturday, Jul 16, 2011 at 14:05

Saturday, Jul 16, 2011 at 14:05
? Last 4.5 105s were made in 2002
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Follow Up By: fisho64 - Saturday, Jul 16, 2011 at 20:53

Saturday, Jul 16, 2011 at 20:53
yep-and first in 1998, 13 years ago. hence they will be "at most 13 years" not "at least 13 years old".
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Reply By: Member - Keith C (NSW) - Thursday, Jul 14, 2011 at 13:08

Thursday, Jul 14, 2011 at 13:08
Brad, I have a 93 80s 4.5 with gas. Around town on petrol 17/lx100, Towing a 1.5t van 20/lx100. Gas gives me 420ks from 90l round town and 290/320ks from 90l when towing. Keith
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Reply By: Robin Miller - Thursday, Jul 14, 2011 at 13:46

Thursday, Jul 14, 2011 at 13:46
Good car Brad, but at up to $30k why would you not go for the more fuel efficent V8 from late 2002 or more powerful 4800 Patrol from late 2001 and $20,000.
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Follow Up By: fisho64 - Thursday, Jul 14, 2011 at 15:28

Thursday, Jul 14, 2011 at 15:28
Brad-what Robin says is correct-4500 or 4800 patrol is cheap as chips, that would be a good option as the depreciation is horrendous, it'd work in your favour.
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Follow Up By: Robin Miller - Thursday, Jul 14, 2011 at 16:41

Thursday, Jul 14, 2011 at 16:41
Redbook currently lists Private sales values as

Late 2002 (V8 cruiser) at 23300-26800 , and 2002 Patrol as 17600-20500.

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Follow Up By: Bradlez - Thursday, Jul 14, 2011 at 17:58

Thursday, Jul 14, 2011 at 17:58
Hey thanks for the info im open to suggestions however i dont want a nissan. But are the 100 series v8s any good? I heard they all have ifs which some ppl hate but i dont know why. See im only going to use it for towing my boat and the occasional beach run but not hardcore off road 4wd ing. Thanks for help
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Follow Up By: Bradlez - Thursday, Jul 14, 2011 at 18:00

Thursday, Jul 14, 2011 at 18:00
Also how many kms do you normally get out of the v8 100 series. Should i be tryibg to find one with under 150000 kms is that about right
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Follow Up By: fisho64 - Thursday, Jul 14, 2011 at 18:13

Thursday, Jul 14, 2011 at 18:13
for what you are proposing IFS is probably the better option. Shouldnt be any problem with one at 150K.
They came out as a V8 GVX for one year early 2000's then a couple of years later as the standard petrol option on GXL's.
Rigid front axle is best for hardcore but the best selling and most popular 4wd's ever sold (all Hilux and 1/2 of Landcruisers) of the last 13 years have been IFS.

Not sure where you live but probably find them cheaper in the more financially depressed EC states than WA.
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Follow Up By: Bradlez - Thursday, Jul 14, 2011 at 19:42

Thursday, Jul 14, 2011 at 19:42
hey thanks mate when did they stop with the live axles. did any 100 series turbo diesel 4.2 have live axles if so which model cheers
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Follow Up By: Robin Miller - Thursday, Jul 14, 2011 at 19:49

Thursday, Jul 14, 2011 at 19:49
V8 cruiser 100 series is a good car - I wouldn't be put off by IFS front end because they are still good and low cost strengthening brackets can be fitted.

No TD 100 series diesel with live axles only non turbo models but they are way down on torque & power.
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Follow Up By: Bradlez - Thursday, Jul 14, 2011 at 19:53

Thursday, Jul 14, 2011 at 19:53
hey mate thanks alot for your help maybe i will broaden my horizons and start looking at models with ifs as well. If i could get a turbo diesel for 40k id probly stretch the budget but i think ill be pushing S**T uphill to find one with good kms for that.

thanks again
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Follow Up By: Madfisher - Thursday, Jul 14, 2011 at 20:02

Thursday, Jul 14, 2011 at 20:02
Brad I use to drive the boss old v8 100 series, and with gentle driving it would go as low as 13/100 pretty good for a tank.
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Follow Up By: Crammo - Saturday, Jul 16, 2011 at 16:45

Saturday, Jul 16, 2011 at 16:45
Brad, I wouldn't discount the six too early. Try and find one of the last ones which were made in 2002.

We went through this exercise recently. After much research we chose to buy a 4.5 6cyl petrol/LPG LC. Chose the 6 over the V8 for a number of reasons. Yes they are quite thirsty and have slightly less power and torque, but not much. They cost around the same price for a good one. I am a motor mechanic and one of the things I value is simplicity, and the ability to do my own work when things go wrong.

The 6 has only one cylinder head (and gasket) instead of 2, 6 injectors instead of 8 etc etc. Less need for special tools and more working room too. Easier to adjust the tappets too. This engine has been around for a long time and was designed for the LC from the outset to take abuse if needed. Suspension, wheel bearings etc the 105 Series (6cyl petrol) is well proven (same as 80 Series) and simpler than in the 100 Series V8 or TD (independent front suspension with exposed CV joints and different (weaker?) semi floating rear axle assembly). Auto trans is only a 4 speed, but bulletproof.

A big plus is that the 6 has a timing timing chain instead of a belt as on the V8 which needs to be replaced (expensive) at regular intervals.

With the 6 the LPG tanks can be slung under the chassis. On the V8, which has a different chassis, you need to move the spare wheel to make room for the tank. You are keeping your 140l or so of petrol and would have an additional 70l or so of gas (assuming 2 scuba tanks) giving a more than acceptable range.

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Reply By: Robert K3 - Saturday, Jul 16, 2011 at 17:36

Saturday, Jul 16, 2011 at 17:36
Hi Brad,

I picked up a second hand 2002 4.2 GXL this week with a Toowoomba Turbo fitted (compliance plated) with 104,000 km on it for $25,000.

Has 305/60 x 16 Coopers on it plus they thru in the original rims and tyres with abt 10K on them. Toyota factory Bull bar.

Near perfect condition with full service log books, never been on the beach.


So they are out there if you look long enough

Rob
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