38 Speed cameras shut down in NSW

Submitted: Wednesday, Jul 27, 2011 at 15:40
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Just read that 38 speed cameras have been shut down effective immediately in NSW.

Speed camers locations shut down

This just about says it all:

The cameras had been found by the Auditor General in a report released today to have no significant road safety benefit.

The RTA had proposed to relocate the cameras or deactivate some of them, but the Roads Minister Duncan Gay has overruled the RTA and this morning ordered each of them to be turned off this morning. They will all be removed.

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Reply By: Tonyfish#58 - Wednesday, Jul 27, 2011 at 15:45

Wednesday, Jul 27, 2011 at 15:45
About time :-)

Maybe we will be allowed to go a decent speed on our roads again one day

Cheers Tony
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Reply By: Life Member - esarby (NSW) - Wednesday, Jul 27, 2011 at 16:11

Wednesday, Jul 27, 2011 at 16:11
Living in Sydney one of the sites that will be shut down in on the M4 at Wentworthville. At the moment you pass through several speed signs that are within a four km stretch. 90, 70 90, 60 at the road works, then back to 90. at the last 90 are the safety cameras. one km past that is a 100 sign. You are very lucky if you can reach 70 kph along that stretch of the M4. that site is certainly not a Cash Cow.

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Reply By: Bigfish - Wednesday, Jul 27, 2011 at 16:28

Wednesday, Jul 27, 2011 at 16:28
Pity they cant remove the other many thousand lying cameras too. Good to see a little bit of sanity from someone in govt.
cheers
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Reply By: patsproule - Wednesday, Jul 27, 2011 at 16:53

Wednesday, Jul 27, 2011 at 16:53
Good to see they stuck by their election pledge. Although some of those cameras no longer exist anyway - such as Coolac now that they bypass is in.

Interestingly they are in the process of installing more point-to-point cameras on the Hume, which appear to be going to be used for cars since the truck ones have already been in place for years.

Pat
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Follow Up By: On Patrol & TONI - Wednesday, Jul 27, 2011 at 19:42

Wednesday, Jul 27, 2011 at 19:42
pat,
the election pledge has been meet, BUT, they are talking of these cameras being relocated, maybe a case of moving the issue to another location. This or any state Govt. will not give up on these cash cows, they are too lucrative.

I don't care what party of the pollies they WILL NOT give up on these revenue raisers.
Cheers Colin.
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Follow Up By: Member Andys Aussie Adventure - Thursday, Jul 28, 2011 at 06:50

Thursday, Jul 28, 2011 at 06:50
And the one at Herons Creek on the pacific Hwy has not worked for 3 years. I know I dug the wires out when doing the upgrade,and were never replaced.

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Reply By: Steve M1 (NSW) - Wednesday, Jul 27, 2011 at 17:29

Wednesday, Jul 27, 2011 at 17:29
excellent news - pity they've just spent a fortune re-naming "speed camera ahead" to "safety camera ahead"
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Reply By: Member - Joe n Mel n kids (FNQ - Wednesday, Jul 27, 2011 at 17:53

Wednesday, Jul 27, 2011 at 17:53
Excellent....... now i can take NSW off my list to visit, there is no way in hell will i go back if the speed cameras are switched off, they drove like idiots with the fear of them being switched ON, now with them switched OFF, god help us all
LOL
Joe
But seriously if it raised 1 million dollars and saved just one life, possibly one of my family, it was 1 million well invested ...
I will duck for cover now :-)
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Follow Up By: Ray - Thursday, Jul 28, 2011 at 08:30

Thursday, Jul 28, 2011 at 08:30
NSW Has been off my list for some time what with their toll roads
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Reply By: roger ramjet - Wednesday, Jul 27, 2011 at 18:48

Wednesday, Jul 27, 2011 at 18:48
Good to hear.

We've all known for a long time the cameras were merely an attempt at revenue raising, not a safety exercise.
My guess is that the ROI on their installation and maintenance has proven not to provide the profit, er, road safety outcomes intended.
The known biggest factor on modifying driver behaviour is a police presence. Hopefully all this wasted money will be diverted into some more blue light vehicles on the highways.

Joe n Mels comment is interesting - my last drive down from Noosa I found the QLD drivers to be absolute lunatics, particularly through the Brissy - Tweed Heads section.
As soon as I got down south of Byron it was all back to normal.

Drive safe and to the road conditions ppls !

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Reply By: napalm_999 - Wednesday, Jul 27, 2011 at 19:19

Wednesday, Jul 27, 2011 at 19:19
Fingers crossed this money will be filtered into more police presence on roads to pick up the dangerous, drunk, high, unlicensed, etc drivers. Don't get me wrong, speed contributes to many accidents, but something that can register other, often more dangerous driver attributes would make me feel safer getting behind the wheel.

I got caught drink driving in the country by the boys in blue back when I was a kid and let me tell you, that once was enough and I have never, ever, ever got in a car slightly tipsy since (driving that is). Getting a letter in the mail saying I was 12km's over the speed limit didn't quite have the same impact on me.
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Follow Up By: Member - Greg S1 (NSW) - Wednesday, Jul 27, 2011 at 19:38

Wednesday, Jul 27, 2011 at 19:38
Bring on the Point to Point cameras for cars. Truckies have to put up with them so why shouldn't cars. Isn't the speed limit sign posted. Go over and get busted. Simple. I have a sign on the back of my camper " Hit this camper and it is the last thing you will see on this earth"
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Follow Up By: Member - Mark G Gulmarrad - Wednesday, Jul 27, 2011 at 20:53

Wednesday, Jul 27, 2011 at 20:53
Greg

agreed mate......we have been subject to those bloody things for years.
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Follow Up By: Tonyfish#58 - Thursday, Jul 28, 2011 at 17:01

Thursday, Jul 28, 2011 at 17:01
Problem is most speed limits are now posted too low

Cheers Tony
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Reply By: mchapo - Wednesday, Jul 27, 2011 at 19:49

Wednesday, Jul 27, 2011 at 19:49
So, who's going to pay the $20million in lost revenue now. I'd rather the speedsters pay the tax not the ones who abide by the limits.
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Follow Up By: Nigel Migraine - Wednesday, Jul 27, 2011 at 20:43

Wednesday, Jul 27, 2011 at 20:43
"I'd rather the speedsters pay the tax not the ones who abide by the limits"

Of course you would; but that's because you're stupid.

NM
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Follow Up By: mchapo - Wednesday, Jul 27, 2011 at 21:33

Wednesday, Jul 27, 2011 at 21:33
gee mate that reply took a lot of thought
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Reply By: Member - Mark G Gulmarrad - Wednesday, Jul 27, 2011 at 21:03

Wednesday, Jul 27, 2011 at 21:03
i see that blatant revenue raiser at St Helena near the Byron Bay turn of isn't on the list.

its one of the steepest hills on the Pathetic Highway in a 60 zone.

has caught hundreds.
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Follow Up By: Hairs & Fysh - Thursday, Jul 28, 2011 at 06:28

Thursday, Jul 28, 2011 at 06:28
I had noticed it's absence from the list.
They wont remove it Mark, they would then be liable for that accident were the woman nearly died because of the camber of the surface is wrong and water sheets across the road.
Same as the one at Wardel. Two lanes, two different speed zones in different directions, one camera. Is it picking up the 80k's heading north or those traveling over 100k's traveling south?
The problem with the RTA is they are a Law unto themselves.

I agree with comments made by the Police Union Rep, H/way patrol offices pick up other offenses other than speeding, which has to be a good thing.
Tailgating/Dangerous driving, DUI and a heap of others.
And I really don't have a problem with unmarked cars, how stupid is it to advertise that they are about?
Anyway, It's gotta be a good thing in some places.
cheers.

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Follow Up By: Member - Mark G Gulmarrad - Thursday, Jul 28, 2011 at 07:57

Thursday, Jul 28, 2011 at 07:57
Hairs.
the one at Wardell does not pick up the traffic northbound as the sensors under the road dont extend into the northbound lane.

and the one in Woodburn is a blatant revenue raiser as the speed limit there is only 50 kl/h, and there has never been an accident in the main drag of Woodburn.

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Follow Up By: Hairs & Fysh - Thursday, Jul 28, 2011 at 10:01

Thursday, Jul 28, 2011 at 10:01
That's the idiotic thing about that camera, One piece of road, two speed zones, and the north bound lane is the start of an overtaking lane.

Just like the overtaking lane just north of Grafton, heading south, it's an 80K zone.
Geez, that makes sense?

Anyway, I don't drive fast enough these days to get pinged, not like the good old days with the Cleveland roaring, LOL

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Follow Up By: Member - DAZA (QLD) - Thursday, Jul 28, 2011 at 11:47

Thursday, Jul 28, 2011 at 11:47
G/Day Mark & Jon

That dam hill at St Helena is a pain in the bum.

Nearly every time we were heading south towing the caravan we would get stuck behind a Boofhead Hippy smoking Hooch in a Combie Van or a couple of trucks.

You would have to drop down from the 100k speed limit to 60 k speed limit going up that steep hill.

Those Speed Cameras on the hill would give me the horrors.

So now we take the Byron Bay turn off and go via the coastal route.

It's an interesting detour, going through Byron, checking out the Beautiful People and the Coffee Latte Set, and the young Swedish Back Packer Chics lol lol.
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Reply By: Member - Scott M (NSW) - Wednesday, Jul 27, 2011 at 22:28

Wednesday, Jul 27, 2011 at 22:28
Good-o - 3 of those are on my daily commute.... :-)

(Ducks head !!)
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Follow Up By: Member - Scott M (NSW) - Wednesday, Jul 27, 2011 at 22:31

Wednesday, Jul 27, 2011 at 22:31
Mind you, given the glacial pace of Sydney traffic - it would be a challenge to get busted by any of them during normal commuting hours

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Follow Up By: Member - Scott M (NSW) - Wednesday, Jul 27, 2011 at 22:37

Wednesday, Jul 27, 2011 at 22:37
the only one left on the daily commute now is the Marcus Eindfeld Memorial Speed Camera outside Middle Harbour Primary......
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