Daily Waters to Booroloola and road trains!
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BrownyGU
Hi All,
First of all how good is the Daily Waters Pub! Spent an overnighter there last night, thoroughly enjoyed the "World Famous" Beef and Barra Barbie they have, plus some free entertainment by a bloke called Adam Toms. Adam has chucked his 9-5 job in sold his house and bought a van, packed up the missus and two tin lids, and is basically busking his way around OZ, ringing ahead and organising gigs as he goes. Has had some air time on the ABC apparently.
Sorry I digress, That stretch of road between Daily Waters and
Borroloola,(SPELLING) is as many of you would know, single lane bitchamen for a great part of it, and it was my first experience with Road Trains coming the other way that have no intention of moving over! I understand the reason, getting all those tyres and trailers onto the shoulder of an ordinary road would be dangerous, but gee it still puts the wind up you a bit!
But the bloke towing a nice new boat behind a 200 series Tojo,(Heading towards Daily Waters) who didn't seem to want to get stone chips..........MOVE OVER !
Cheers....Browny
Reply By: Member - Michael and Chris (QL - Thursday, Sep 15, 2011 at 05:59
Thursday, Sep 15, 2011 at 05:59
BrownyGU,
Why would it put the wind up you? Pretty simple,move over get off the road completely as it is for your safety as
well as the safety of the roadtrain. What they don't teach in driving schools is common sense. As for the 200 series, I don't get it. If he stayed on the road wouldn't you be throwing rocks at him? Let him have the bitumen.
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Follow Up By: Fatso - Thursday, Sep 15, 2011 at 06:44
Thursday, Sep 15, 2011 at 06:44
Michael & Chris, it is disputable as to whether common sense is actually as common as people think.
It is definitely not as common as it used to be.
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Follow Up By: olcoolone - Thursday, Sep 15, 2011 at 08:42
Thursday, Sep 15, 2011 at 08:42
The biggest has right of way, when we see a road train coming in the distance we find a good spot to pull
well off the road...... no fun travelling with a broken windscreen.
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Follow Up By: Hairy (WA) - Thursday, Sep 15, 2011 at 21:54
Thursday, Sep 15, 2011 at 21:54
Dont tell everyone!
Next thing you know everyone will want the dirt and expect you to take the bitumen!!!! LOL
Ive always dived for the dirt and given everyone the bitumen.......never done a windscreen yet....LOL
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Follow Up By: BrownyGU - Saturday, Sep 17, 2011 at 22:39
Saturday, Sep 17, 2011 at 22:39
Michael or Chris (wich ever)
Thanks for the lesson in Common Sense, you are obviously loaded with it! I did pull over and get off the road completely ( otherwise I wouldn't be here making this post) Still though, when I'm completely off the road with no more room to get over with out going bush, and 80 odd ton of road train whistles past your side mirrors, it tends to put the "wind" up you a bit! Reasonable? Hopefully when I've driven each and every highway, dirt track and back road, I'll develop the common sense you all assume I'm lacking?
"As for the 200 series, I don't get it"
Michael or Chris,
Next time your on an outback dirt road have a look out your rear view mirrors and
check out the number of stones, dirt, debri and dust you 4by kicks all over what ever you are towing, I'm fairly sure he didn't want his new boat sprayed with stones from his 200 series, hence his refusal to move over at all,If I had of stayed half on the road and half off, as every other car i came across had done I would of collided with him? Are you seriously suggesting he was within his rights to hog the entire bitchumen strip and rely on every other road user coming in the opposite direction to move over?
mmmmmmm, maybe that common sense I've been reminded of aint to common!
browny
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Follow Up By: Hairy (WA) - Sunday, Sep 18, 2011 at 11:09
Sunday, Sep 18, 2011 at 11:09
Gday Browny,
I think you might be missing the point......
I think what people are saying is,single lane bitumen roads really aren't built with the protection of paintwork in mind. So, if your driving a vehicle where the cosmetics of your vehicle are more important than getting from A to B in a certain time you may need to adjust your usual driving style and attitude.
If you slow down (as I presume your are in no rush and have a nice clean car) and give the on coming vehicle the bitumen you will be the one throwing up the rocks and he will be the one with the dust not you.........If he is in the same position as you, both slow down.......If your both working or used of travelling on these sorts of roads, just drop a wheel off on to the dirt and keep going.Very rarely does a stone from the left hand side of your car hit a vehicle travelling in the other direction on the right hand side of you.
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Follow Up By: BrownyGU - Sunday, Sep 18, 2011 at 13:34
Sunday, Sep 18, 2011 at 13:34
Hairy,
One of us is missing the point! I passed numerous cars going the opposite way that day and all bar one, (The 200 series towing the boat) happily put there 2 wheels onto the dirt AS I DID ALSO, and happily passed with a wave, this bloke didn't move over at all. I moved completely off the road in the end and he happily stayed on the bitumen!
Mate I'm 8 months into a round OZ trip, I've done the
Great Central road from
Yulara into WA, recently completed the Gibb and
Mitchell falls, visited Cape Levique out of
Broome, the back road from
Litchfield NP into Daily River, I've got more dings and scratches on my Patrol than you can poke a stick at, I'm not concerned by a few more.
So get of your line of thought in regards to cosmetics of cars and so
forth, because you sound like an idiot!
Browny
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Follow Up By: Hairy (WA) - Sunday, Sep 18, 2011 at 14:39
Sunday, Sep 18, 2011 at 14:39
Hahahahahaha.......... Come on here having a winge about big scary trucks and another post about other people being smart arses because YOU run out of fuel and then resort to name calling??????
Harden up princess!......Bwhahahahahahah!!!!!
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Follow Up By: BrownyGU - Sunday, Sep 18, 2011 at 18:12
Sunday, Sep 18, 2011 at 18:12
Thats better Hairy, don't beat around the bush, just show your true colours earlier in future!
At least you were to the point this time, why didn't you just say that from the start!
I didn't say you were an idiot, just that you sounded like one......I reckon you'll do the convincing...........
Harden up......Pfffft!
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Reply By: Meggs - Thursday, Sep 15, 2011 at 09:39
Thursday, Sep 15, 2011 at 09:39
Putting the wind up you is normal it would happen to most people but over time and with more careful driving it becomes just part of travelling.
On thing I have found to be beneficial is while you have pulled up
well off the road give them a call on the
UHF radio and ask is he alone or is there more travelling with him as sometimes particularly with stock transports several can travel together a few klms apart. If he is alone thats fine but if not find out how far behind the others are so you can decide what to do. I have never failed to get a courteous reply.
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Follow Up By: Member - Jinki & Harry - Thursday, Sep 15, 2011 at 14:11
Thursday, Sep 15, 2011 at 14:11
Meggs, agree totally with your thoughts.
We tow a 22ft caravan and a camper trailer, of course never together and our policy has always been from day one when we started outback travelling to get right off the road as soon as we see a road train approaching and we too, also call them up on the UHF.
They have a job to do and a timetable to keep, whereas we are usually on a more relaxed timetable! And Meggs like you, we have found the truckies very courteous and often want to chat to find out where we have been and where we are headed etc.
Jinki
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Follow Up By: Fab72 - Thursday, Sep 15, 2011 at 20:43
Thursday, Sep 15, 2011 at 20:43
Jinki,
I'm a weekend warrior truck driver and I know first hand how much distance it takes to slow down or stop a truck (not to mention getting going again).
Secondly, dropping even one set off wheels into the rough stuff can serverely unsettle the load. Stock trailers especially tripple decks are extemely top heavy. Tankers are also pretty unsettled when they're partially empty. It doesn't take much to put these things on their sides.
We appreciate those who give us room and fear for our safety and the safety of others when oncoming traffic fails to give us room.
A call on a UHF is all it takes.....you're right. And at the end of the day, whether you're working or holidaying on the highways, it's that open road that lures us all to being there.
Thanks to you and many others like you (thankfully the majority) who help us to get the job done. Safe travels.
Fab.
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Reply By: beth49 - Thursday, Sep 15, 2011 at 11:01
Thursday, Sep 15, 2011 at 11:01
Hi... We have travelled on heaps of these roads and it is my understanding that road trains have right of way on these roads, as it is so hard for them to move over much easier for us with caravans just to move over or get right off the road when you see one coming..
Cheers Ros.
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Reply By: Member - Berylvt - Thursday, Sep 15, 2011 at 12:37
Thursday, Sep 15, 2011 at 12:37
But I agree it puts the wind up you all right , the first time you encounter such a vehicle- even if you are expecting it. It is especially nerve wracking when you meet one coming over a rise with not much time to get off the road!Tell a European and they'd never believe you…
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Follow Up By: BrownyGU - Saturday, Sep 17, 2011 at 22:43
Saturday, Sep 17, 2011 at 22:43
Thanks Berylvt,
I'm glad you understood my post
Cheers....Browny
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Reply By: Member - Jinki & Harry - Thursday, Sep 15, 2011 at 14:21
Thursday, Sep 15, 2011 at 14:21
We agree BrownyGU,
Daly Waters Pub is the best - always stop for an overnight of great fun and entertainment and good food. A Scottish barmaid we met there a few years back, described it to us that every night was like a Saturday night and the next morning like a Sunday morning!!! It is certainly a top tourist spot. When there, we always treat ourselves dinner and breakfast.
Regards
Jinki & Harry
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Follow Up By: BrownyGU - Saturday, Sep 17, 2011 at 22:44
Saturday, Sep 17, 2011 at 22:44
Cheers......J&H
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Reply By: Member - John and Val - Thursday, Sep 15, 2011 at 15:15
Thursday, Sep 15, 2011 at 15:15
Hi Browny,
Yes they are pretty awe inspiring, even when you have seen them many times. I still remember the first time I overtook one ... not something to be done lightly. They do have right of way and while in outback Qld recently we saw plenty of signs warning smaller vehicles to move over onto the shoulder when passing (not overtaking) a road train. We generally have the UHF on scan which can give some advance warning of their approach, as they often travel together and chat as they go. That gives us plenty of time to get out of the way and out of the dust.
Cheers,
Val.
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Follow Up By: BrownyGU - Saturday, Sep 17, 2011 at 22:48
Saturday, Sep 17, 2011 at 22:48
Cheers Val,
Gee I can't see myself ever overtaking one! Unless maybe he is finishing off a couple of Dim Sims at a truck stop.....!
I do the scan thing also,
Cheers....Browny
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Reply By: Member - blackbird1937 - Thursday, Sep 15, 2011 at 16:34
Thursday, Sep 15, 2011 at 16:34
Yes
Daly Waters pub is great . A truck can pull a 4x4 out of a bog easily but i have not seen a 4x4 pull a decent truck out of a bog . I have never had trouble with road trains with my 4x4 or even when I was on my m/bike on the
Borroloola rd . in my 4x4 I let the others have the road .
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Follow Up By: BrownyGU - Saturday, Sep 17, 2011 at 22:50
Saturday, Sep 17, 2011 at 22:50
Thanks for the insight bbird,
I'll remember to bow graciously and hold doors open whenever in there presence again!
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Reply By: Member - Adrian L (QLD) - Thursday, Sep 15, 2011 at 18:52
Thursday, Sep 15, 2011 at 18:52
Browny.......its a very good idea to get right off the single line bitumen for any oncoming Truck, be it a Road Train, B-double, Semi or just a Tipper....why.....they are bigger, heavier, harder to control on gravel and of course them staying on the bitumen you won't get pelted by flying rocks and covered in dust. Does that makes sense????
I certainly get right off the bitumen if I see another Truck coming even I drive only a 6t Truck based Camper. A lot of Cars and especially Caravans get off the road if they see me coming, its a win win situation for both of us......I get to stay on the bitumen and they don't get pelted and dusted.....everyone is happy!!!!!! (and safe)
Happy travels
Adrian
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Follow Up By: BrownyGU - Saturday, Sep 17, 2011 at 22:55
Saturday, Sep 17, 2011 at 22:55
Adrian,
Sheesh, what is it with some of you, re read my post, all I said was the first time it happens it can put the wind up you.....!!!!!!!!
I'm pretty sure I actually said " I can understand the reason for them not getting over with all those wheels and trailers on the shoulder of the road, it would be dangerous etc,etc........!!!!!!!!
"Does that make sense"????
are you serious?????
Browny
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Follow Up By: Meggs - Sunday, Sep 18, 2011 at 07:53
Sunday, Sep 18, 2011 at 07:53
Well I understood and posted a tip on what we do.
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Follow Up By: Meggs - Sunday, Sep 18, 2011 at 07:55
Sunday, Sep 18, 2011 at 07:55
Oh yes the pub was good but I found the entertainment a bit loud. They sure packed the vans in when we were there.
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