Ripoff prices

Submitted: Thursday, Sep 15, 2011 at 16:40
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Hi all.....have been travelling around OZ now for over 12 months and have been amazed at the prices some bussinesses charge for things.

Most of these examples I have been told by other travellers along the way so I cannot confirm their accuracy.

1.Barn Hill station....$78 to fill a 9kg gas bottle
2.Gibb River rd.....$10 for a bag of ice.
3.Ellquestro....$120 for a slab of beer.
4.Gibb River rd....$23 for a small tin of powered milk.
5.ARB in Broome...$2000 to replace a timing belt and water pump on Ford Transit
6.My own personal one....Autopro in Broome....$120 for 4 front suspension bushes,went to Ford dealer and got them for $60.

Would be curious to hear of anybody else's experiences.

Cheers Peter
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Reply By: Dreadnought - Thursday, Sep 15, 2011 at 17:18

Thursday, Sep 15, 2011 at 17:18
Bravo Man.......It sounds like the first 5 points are just "what you've been told" so you should really speak from personal experience only before forming opinions. As for your front suspension bushes....it just goes to show the advantage of shopping around doesn't it!
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Reply By: Member Bushy 04(VIC) - Thursday, Sep 15, 2011 at 17:33

Thursday, Sep 15, 2011 at 17:33
Bravo man fact based on your own experience is the best way to speak, as to many people tell whoppers and destroy businesses.
Then the next lot of travellers get nothing at all.
We were up that way last year and did not strike any prices like you have quoted.
Bushy.
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Follow Up By: Bravo Man - Thursday, Sep 15, 2011 at 22:08

Thursday, Sep 15, 2011 at 22:08
Your right people do exaduate but even if they were a little the prices are still a rip off.
Some more examples from myself so they are correct...diesel 20 cents a lt dearer in Kunnanarra than Wyndum just up the road.....in Winton to refill a 2 kg gas bottle $18 at a servo compared to $11 at hardware store 100 mts up the road.
Peter
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Follow Up By: Tjukayirla Roadhouse - Thursday, Sep 15, 2011 at 23:36

Thursday, Sep 15, 2011 at 23:36
Sounds like you wouldn't really be happy unless everything was cheap as chips
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Follow Up By: P and JM - Sunday, Sep 18, 2011 at 09:15

Sunday, Sep 18, 2011 at 09:15
Tjukayirla Roadhouse

OOOUUUCCCHHH did that hurt you as well ?
Maybe you are in the same boat as some others who continually "RIPOFF"
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Follow Up By: Tjukayirla Roadhouse - Sunday, Sep 18, 2011 at 09:44

Sunday, Sep 18, 2011 at 09:44
yeah, that's right P and JM, we just can't wait to rip off everyone **roll eyes**
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Follow Up By: Tonyfish#58 - Sunday, Sep 18, 2011 at 18:48

Sunday, Sep 18, 2011 at 18:48
Looks like a lot of people do not know what it is like to run a remote business - Its a short period of time you have to offer the service & make ends meet for a year - After all they expect it to be there :-)

Its easy - Not happy with the price do not buy :-)

Tjukayirla Roadhouse & all other remote businesses - Thanks for providing a service - If I need it I will buy it - Cheers.

Cheers Tony
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Follow Up By: P and JM - Monday, Sep 19, 2011 at 14:41

Monday, Sep 19, 2011 at 14:41
Tjukayirla Roadhouse

Good on ya ! I love it, I love it. I am old bushy and know what it's all about.
Ya never know I maybe on ya door step one day hey.

Cheers P&J
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Reply By: Rockape - Thursday, Sep 15, 2011 at 18:01

Thursday, Sep 15, 2011 at 18:01
Peter,
once you become a captive market you pay what they want.

Now in all fairness, I think we all have to accept you have to pay a premium when travelling in remote areas. They pay transport cost and then have it sitting around until it is purchased if at all. Also many of the remote places have to provide their own power at hugh expense. Running a genset and having a backup set 24hrs a day costs big time.

Yes, there are rip off merchants out there but the best thing you can do is say no, if you don't absolutely need it.

On the other side of the coin we paid a $1.69 for a good loaf of bread at the IGA in Charleville. Unbelievable price.

Then at Capella which is not remote at all the going price for 2 small cokes and a loaf of bread it was $12.50. Answer! thanks but no thanks, and we went to Clermont and purchased there.

Paid the same price for a genuine air filter in Charleville as the coast and the seller wasn't a Tojo dealer. Good to see.

Buyer beware
RA.

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Follow Up By: Member - Boo Boo (NSW) - Thursday, Sep 15, 2011 at 18:19

Thursday, Sep 15, 2011 at 18:19
I bought some beer at Lake Argyle WA and it was $112.

Only bought a 6 pack for $26.

Beer on South Straddy was $75 to $95 a carton.

Matso mango beer at Kunnunarra was $80 and the same beer at Matso in Broome was $105.

You really need to plan what you need and where.

Fortunately I'm not a big beer drinker, but wine can be a bit steep as well.

Accommodation in Halls Creek for a 'donga at Best western is $195 a night.

Lake Argyle is $200, very basic, but if you don't have a caravan there is not much as an alternative.

Steak at a pub in Broome $42. at another pub the wine list ran from $36 to the hundreds of dollars.

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Follow Up By: Member - Tony Z (NSW) - Thursday, Sep 15, 2011 at 18:26

Thursday, Sep 15, 2011 at 18:26
I personally paid $32 for a 6 pack of beer at Kings Canyon and passed on the $80 for a cheap bottle of Sharaz as we were heading to Alice in the next couple of day's
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Reply By: olcoolone - Thursday, Sep 15, 2011 at 18:32

Thursday, Sep 15, 2011 at 18:32
I think it's called convenience,if you want it now in remote areas you pay their price.... but you always have the option of organising your own goods and freight.... and waiting.

Nobody forced you into buy it from the "Ripoff" businesses, it's your choice.

In remote areas money talks and with money you can get what you want when you want.

Want a weld done on a broken part and offer them $100 for the job up front and it gets done ..... offer them $20 and you'll be walking

Never leave home with less then a few thousand $$$$$ CASH.
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Follow Up By: kevmac....(WA) - Thursday, Sep 15, 2011 at 22:02

Thursday, Sep 15, 2011 at 22:02
dont wanna pay the pice? try the shop down the road is a common response,,,,,,,,from a lot of remote shops
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Reply By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Thursday, Sep 15, 2011 at 18:43

Thursday, Sep 15, 2011 at 18:43
If you don't want to pay that much then walk away. It's not a ripoff.

A lot of those top end businesses keep running for 12 months of the year and the tourists only come for a few months.
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Follow Up By: Steve M1 (NSW) - Thursday, Sep 15, 2011 at 18:49

Thursday, Sep 15, 2011 at 18:49
so let's rip into em while we can eh?
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Reply By: Member - Vince M (NSW) - Thursday, Sep 15, 2011 at 18:55

Thursday, Sep 15, 2011 at 18:55
what gets me is when I can buy fuel at places like Mt dare, Rabbit flat cheaper than I can in Huskisson nsw
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Follow Up By: Sandman - Thursday, Sep 15, 2011 at 19:04

Thursday, Sep 15, 2011 at 19:04
Rabbit Flat is closed, no matter how much money you bring he wont sell you any :-) I was supposed to be there on Sunday but my Jury Duty has run into next week so darn we're going to be delayed...
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Reply By: Grey Nomads - Thursday, Sep 15, 2011 at 20:34

Thursday, Sep 15, 2011 at 20:34
I have to say I have seen both sides but I do agree from time to time we do get ripped off under the guise of peak seasons and remoteness. Fuel is one regular area of occasional rip off. I have paid 50c a litre over the odds for fuel on the Nullabor and to me that is pure profiteering. A fuel truck must carry 100,000 lts of fuel and you cannot tell me it costs an extra $50,000 to get the fuel 500km,s from the depot.
A hamburger and chips and fish and chips meal on an eat in menu in a roadhouse $50!!! .
A powered caravan site $50 a night.
$5 in a caravan park to do a load of washing.
Charging 1 1/2% surcharge for using a credit card.
But then the other side of the coin, stupid me thought I had a puncture and I couldn't find it to fix it so I took it to a tyre dealer in Exmouth for repair.The valve was loose!!! Begged him not to tell my mates. No charge.
A stone caught between the disk rotor and backplate, $20 to put it on a hoist, take the wheel off, remove the disk brakes and fish the stone out.
Powered caravan site in Leinster $15 a night with free laundry and $12 for slap up 3 course meal at the BHP mess.
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Follow Up By: Grey Nomads - Thursday, Sep 15, 2011 at 20:42

Thursday, Sep 15, 2011 at 20:42
"regular area of occasional rip off" hmmm. Is that mixed up! It,s my age and I am sticking to it.
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Follow Up By: Gone Bush (WA) - Friday, Sep 16, 2011 at 07:18

Friday, Sep 16, 2011 at 07:18
1.5% credit card surcharge is cheap. Usually it's 2%. Higher if you use Amex or Diners.

And why shouldn't you pay? It's your card, your choice to use it. There's no reason why a merchant should be lumbered with your costs.

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Follow Up By: Grey Nomads - Friday, Sep 16, 2011 at 08:38

Friday, Sep 16, 2011 at 08:38
I do not fully agree it's my choice. Credit cards are a fact of life. I also think you must have your tongue firmly planted in your cheek or you do not have a credit card. I have never been asked to pay this surcharge until I went to WA. (I have seen Amex cards charged but I shoved their card many years ago.) I am old enough to remember having my wages paid in cash and only having to go to the bank to deposit my savings. Now I have to pay to access my own money! Needless to say I paid these suppliers using a debit card so if these companies feels they cannot absorb the credit card charges, as others do, then they did not make more money out of me. (By the way I pressed the credit button when using my debit card so I do not have to pay a fee and the company does not get the money for a week.) I hope they have to pay for debit card transactions.
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Follow Up By: olcoolone - Friday, Sep 16, 2011 at 09:14

Friday, Sep 16, 2011 at 09:14
We charge 3% on credit card transactions, we get slogged .8% and the remaining 2.2% is made up of bank merchant chargers.

We get charged $43.00 per month just to have the machine..... so if we only put through a few transaction in a month for a few hundred dollars we are loosing $45.00 out of those transactions.

To break even over 12 months it is 3.12% per transaction but we round it down to %3.

Customers can us EFTPOS with no fees or go to the bank and get cash or a bank cheque if they want to save money.

Most are happy to pay the 3%.... it's a way of life much like going to the local servo for milk when you can save getting it from a supermarket..... it's called convenience.


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Follow Up By: Shaker - Friday, Sep 16, 2011 at 09:36

Friday, Sep 16, 2011 at 09:36
Why should people that don't use credit cards subsidise those that do?
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Follow Up By: Gone Bush (WA) - Friday, Sep 16, 2011 at 21:00

Friday, Sep 16, 2011 at 21:00
Grey Nomads, your words:

"I do not fully agree it's my choice. Credit cards are a fact of life. I also think you must have your tongue firmly planted in your cheek or you do not have a credit card."

I am a dedicated consumer, and I have owned and run a retail outlet for close to 10 years, now retired. So not tongue in cheek at all. I have a keen perspective from both sides of the fence.

The fact is, having a credit card is 100% your choice. You applied for it, you get the benefit of the credit from the bank, but you expect the merchant to carry the cost for those choices; your choices. How unfair is that?

User pays, GN.



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Reply By: aboutfivebucks (Pilbara) - Thursday, Sep 15, 2011 at 22:05

Thursday, Sep 15, 2011 at 22:05
Its hard to knock the Autopro in Broome.
There are plenty of towns in the North West with no auto parts shop at all.
I've found their prices pretty fair in the past.



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Follow Up By: mike39 - Friday, Sep 16, 2011 at 09:07

Friday, Sep 16, 2011 at 09:07
Our van radio died whilst we were up there in June.

Saw the Autopro shop whilst we were at the laundromat, found exactly the radio we required (cd with remote) marked price $169, a couple of hundred cheaper than the next one with same features.

Offered cash, reply was it didnt make much difference but as it was a "display" unit (still with box, warrenty etc.) suggested $150!

Left as a very happy customer, and it performs better than the old Eurovox ever did.
mike
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Reply By: Member - Wayne B (NSW) - Thursday, Sep 15, 2011 at 23:32

Thursday, Sep 15, 2011 at 23:32
Hey Guys you dont have to go outback to be ripped off, at least out there there is some reason for things being more expensive.

Try traveling anywhere on the east coast during School Holidays or peek tourist season.

Cheers
Wayne B
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Reply By: raincloud - Friday, Sep 16, 2011 at 07:47

Friday, Sep 16, 2011 at 07:47
Bravo Man I assume you mean "exaggerate", "Kununurra", and "Wyndham"!!!!!
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Follow Up By: raincloud - Friday, Sep 16, 2011 at 07:48

Friday, Sep 16, 2011 at 07:48
and "businesses"
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Follow Up By: Bravo Man - Friday, Sep 16, 2011 at 11:50

Friday, Sep 16, 2011 at 11:50
Eye no im a baad speler,geting olld
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Reply By: The Landy - Friday, Sep 16, 2011 at 08:12

Friday, Sep 16, 2011 at 08:12
The problem with these types of discussions is that all too frequently the comparison is made between what you are used to paying therefore if it is more expensive elsewhere it must be a rip-off. Little consideration is given to differing cost base, tyranny of distance, and convenience like being able to buy a tyre to replace the one you just shredded in the middle of no-where.

And granted, perhaps some places do charge more, and I’ve seen Innamincka mentioned a couple of times for example, but the trade store season probably peaks for three months of the year, if you want him there next year when you are travelling in the ‘touring’ season he needs to cover his expenses when no-one is about. I’m sure that is the case in many places.

Why are airlines tickets more expensive in the school holidays, why do trade people charge extra for turning up on a Sunday morning to fix your toilet, why are people paid a higher hourly rate if working overtime, and let’s not get started on fuel around holiday periods?

Well I guess it’s because it is the way of the world, and I’m sure one way or the other we all engage in it, sometimes it isn’t just as obvious as others...

How does it go...don’t judge someone until you’ve walk a mile in their shoes!

Good weekend to all...
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Follow Up By: Alloy c/t - Friday, Sep 16, 2011 at 09:02

Friday, Sep 16, 2011 at 09:02
Ahh , but if I walk a mile in your shoes I'm keeping them as long as there a size 7 and a 1/2 ! LOL.
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Reply By: Echucan Bob - Friday, Sep 16, 2011 at 10:50

Friday, Sep 16, 2011 at 10:50
Bravoman
Airlines charging $7.50 credit card fee
Banks charging interest rates way above what they pay, making record profits, and paying their execs around $10mil a year
Car companies charging Australians twice what they charge in USA or UK for the same car.
The washing machine repair man charging $125 for a house call before charging for any work he might do..
The government taxing us blind then bleep the proceeds up against a wall (stimulus.)
State governments charging stamp duty on GST and lux car tax.
Local government rates.

Some of these imposts you can avoid.

I'd be getting more excited about these before worrying about a few lousy bucks in the bush.

Bob
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Reply By: Meggs - Friday, Sep 16, 2011 at 14:05

Friday, Sep 16, 2011 at 14:05
I don't know why you complain about ripoff prices away from the big cities, you can easily get ripped off in big cities.
Some of the places I stay at are remote and I accept to paying a bit more as usually the place has other reasons to offset the cost.
Broome seems to come up regularly around the traps as a ripoff and I have heard it so much I believe it is probably true
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Reply By: Alloy c/t - Friday, Sep 16, 2011 at 16:59

Friday, Sep 16, 2011 at 16:59
Is it a rippoff ? Out here where we live I have all of a 3 minute walk to the one and only very small shop , 2 lt of pauls full cream milk costs $4.30 and is a fresh delivery to the shop twice per week ,, my next nearest place to buy milk means a 250klm round trip at current diesel prices costing round $50 odd for the trip ,, and ohh for the same brand of 2lt of milk I would then save a whole 40cents ,, yep I must be getting ripped off !!
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Follow Up By: A G - SA - Friday, Sep 16, 2011 at 18:58

Friday, Sep 16, 2011 at 18:58
2L of Pauls costs more than that at my local shop in the suburbs of Brisbane, so you're doing alright :)
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Follow Up By: Tjukayirla Roadhouse - Friday, Sep 16, 2011 at 20:52

Friday, Sep 16, 2011 at 20:52
oh how i'd love some nice fresh milk instead of UHT :-)
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Follow Up By: Tonyfish#58 - Sunday, Sep 18, 2011 at 18:53

Sunday, Sep 18, 2011 at 18:53
We pay over $5.20 for our Local Mungalli 2 ltr milk in Malanda.

We pay around the $4.30 for the Dairy Farmers milk and we have the Milk Factory across the road :-)

You are doing really good :-)

Cheers Tony
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Follow Up By: Fatso - Sunday, Sep 18, 2011 at 19:27

Sunday, Sep 18, 2011 at 19:27
Hey Tony, I was a Mungalli drinker until they bought out their Misty Mountains Jersey.
I wouldn't care what the price was, I would buy it.
If I couldn't get it I would probably cry & give up milk.
I reckon that if it wasn't for the Mungalli Dairy I wouldn't be able to call myself Fatso.
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Follow Up By: Tonyfish#58 - Monday, Sep 19, 2011 at 17:23

Monday, Sep 19, 2011 at 17:23
Fatso - It is great milk - Not much else stacks up to it :-)

We drink the Low Fat as featured in this picture on their Web Site

Mungalli Milk Web Site

Cheers Tony
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Reply By: Fatso - Friday, Sep 16, 2011 at 18:17

Friday, Sep 16, 2011 at 18:17
I don't realy object to paying the often higher prices some items attract in more remote places as the type of travel we do usually brings high savings in some other ways.
What gives me the bleeps is when you get some feral red neck owning the local camp ground & roadhouse in a small town on a popular tourist route where he holds a virtual monopoly & charges a high rate with a very poor quality product.

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Reply By: bennyzbit - Friday, Sep 16, 2011 at 19:01

Friday, Sep 16, 2011 at 19:01
Coming back from Birdsville recently we came down the dirt and overnighted at Windorah. At the local grocers shop we were charged $6 for a 200g bag of Smiths Crisps which we normally buy of the coast for $2.99. We wanted them for Happy Hour so we bought the item but wondered between ourselves if there is a 2 tier pricing regime. One price for the tourists and one for the locals. If we lived there and had to pay $6 a bag we would have to buy less... and I presume less of everything, if this double the coast price is across the board on all purchases.
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Follow Up By: Alloy c/t - Saturday, Sep 17, 2011 at 09:22

Saturday, Sep 17, 2011 at 09:22
Well Bennyzbit just think about your "chips" for a second or two , the normal population of Windorah is currently sitting round 80/85 . The shop would not sell 5 large packets of chips in an average week yet in the terrorist [ oops meant to say tourist ] season and especially round Birdsville races time every man and his dog expects to have a full range of goods in the shop , you can guarantee that your $6 packet of chips was not old stock , freight alone on that 1 box of chips was somewhere round the $4 to $6 mark just from Quilpie let alone the freight cost from the warehouse in Brisbane to Quilpie , no its not a two tier pricing regime or scheme , , locals out west support the small shops and pay the what to you seems inflated prices as we have no real alternative except a verrrrrrrrrrry long drive to the big smoke such as Longreach which then of course negates the saving in cost price of a $2.99 packet of chips.
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Reply By: Pebble - Saturday, Sep 17, 2011 at 22:06

Saturday, Sep 17, 2011 at 22:06
I'd also say that one shouldn't always assume that those small family run shops in small towns are always going to be a rip off.

Yes it's different when you're a tourist vs when you're a local, not with the pricing, just that as a local you know the people that run the stores you know weather their prices are overboard or not. And you know what things are reasonably priced (like every day shopping affordability kind of thing) and which things you would probably travel every once in a while and stock up on from the big shops.
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