The Dmax will need a bullbar, but which one?

Submitted: Friday, Sep 16, 2011 at 16:22
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I have browsed through the ARB 'book' and then rang a dealer to get the cost of a commercial bar fitted.

Was told it would be $1550 fitted.

Ironman looks about the same based on ebay prices.

Both appeared to be very close to the body of the car which concerns me if a roo came out to play on the road.

Has anyone actually used one on a roo and did the bar do its job?

Are there other bull bars I should look at?

Any help would be appreciated.

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Reply By: Gean L - Friday, Sep 16, 2011 at 16:30

Friday, Sep 16, 2011 at 16:30
Thank you for the information provided, it is very helpful to me
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Reply By: Alloy c/t - Friday, Sep 16, 2011 at 16:34

Friday, Sep 16, 2011 at 16:34
Have a look at " Tuff Bullbars " based in Toowoomba ,, Lots of Dmax and Colorado out Longreach way wear them , roos in plague proportions ,,,,
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Follow Up By: Member - Boo Boo (NSW) - Friday, Sep 16, 2011 at 16:41

Friday, Sep 16, 2011 at 16:41
Enquired about 5 minutes ago on the tuff 5 post bull bar.

For alloy $2750 and for the Black steel $2660.

They look good and tough but I don't think I'm prepared to pay that much!

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Follow Up By: olcoolone - Friday, Sep 16, 2011 at 16:59

Friday, Sep 16, 2011 at 16:59
Cheap bull bars don't work, there was a comparison done about 8 months ago in one of the 4x4 mags and the difference between good and bad was astounding.

Tuff bars are over engineered and are very heavy but they are very very strong,heaps of cattle people use them.

If you want a cheap bar for looks and not overly concerned with strength there are the cheap Chinese ones and if you want some thing very good go ARB or TJM.
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Follow Up By: Alloy c/t - Friday, Sep 16, 2011 at 17:14

Friday, Sep 16, 2011 at 17:14
Boo Boo , one of the aspects of the " Tuff " bullbar is that you only ever have to buy it once [ vehicle specific ] , out our way I see a lot of b/bars that just don't do the job and need replacing after a roo hit or three , personal opinion is ARB and TJM allthough they do the job to a point both are more concerned about " looks " than the damage a macrapod does .
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Follow Up By: Member - Boo Boo (NSW) - Friday, Sep 16, 2011 at 18:32

Friday, Sep 16, 2011 at 18:32
I will be going to a few dealers and have a look atthe bars face t face. Photos for this type of thing don't give the full picture, no pun intended.

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Follow Up By: Wilko (Parkes NSW) - Friday, Sep 16, 2011 at 19:28

Friday, Sep 16, 2011 at 19:28
Hi Boo Boo,

I'd 2nd the Tuff bars. Ive had 3 (hopper knocker, Boomer and then a Tuff) over the years and they are good.

I like the feeling of being able to travel along at a reasonable clip and if a suicidal marsupial jumps out, I dont even have to have the thought of swerving and ending on lid enter my mind.

I hit a 50kg pig doing 100km/h with a Tuff one morning and it didnt shift one iota.

My only advice is to install/upgrade your suspension dampers as the OEM are usually crap with a decent bar installed.

Cheers Wilko
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Reply By: petengail - Friday, Sep 16, 2011 at 16:55

Friday, Sep 16, 2011 at 16:55
Had ARB fitted to the Rodeo here on Redcliffe Peninsula, about 4 months ago at Billabong Off Road the ARB dealer for $1245. Have not as yet road tested it on a roo though.
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Reply By: dazza62 - Friday, Sep 16, 2011 at 16:55

Friday, Sep 16, 2011 at 16:55
Whilst the ARB Bars look close to the car they are designed to push anything that impacts with them under the vehicle.

Quoted price seems about right for the ARB but you could possibly do a touch better if you lean on the Agent a bit.
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Follow Up By: Member - Boo Boo (NSW) - Friday, Sep 16, 2011 at 18:34

Friday, Sep 16, 2011 at 18:34
Thanks Daza

That helps with the decision.

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Follow Up By: AlbyNSW - Friday, Sep 16, 2011 at 21:49

Friday, Sep 16, 2011 at 21:49
I'll second that, have a ARB bar on my Hilux and hit a roo up north, the shape of the bar draws the animal under the vehicle to minimize the impact.
I think they are very well constructed

Another consideration is that not all are designed to accept a winch should you be considering one down the track.
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Follow Up By: Member - Boo Boo (NSW) - Sunday, Sep 18, 2011 at 18:42

Sunday, Sep 18, 2011 at 18:42
Thanks Alby

The strenght of a bullbar is more of a consideration for me even though the bar has provision for a winch.

I'll be in Bundaberg in a week or so and will have a chat with the ARB people.

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Reply By: Rockape - Friday, Sep 16, 2011 at 17:29

Friday, Sep 16, 2011 at 17:29
Boo Boo,
here are the options.

If you are travelling dusk to dawn get the 4 or 5 poster with the double side rails and hope the chassis stands up to the collision with a bull.

If you star traveling between 7 to 7.30 in the morning and stop at 4.30 to 5.30 in the afternoon get a bullbar, ARB, TJM, Opposite lock. Winter time I am talking about.

Someone said a while back why the big 4 and 5 poster bars with double side rails. It is because many country folk travel on dusk/ dawn and at night.

At other times a nudge bar is fine.

Have a collision free time with your new vehicle.

RA.

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Follow Up By: Member - Boo Boo (NSW) - Friday, Sep 16, 2011 at 18:39

Friday, Sep 16, 2011 at 18:39
Rockape

You make a lot of sense.

We travel between the times you mention. I actually discussed this with the bride and said that we normally drove during daylight hours and rarely see roos on the road and cows etc are easy to see and normally we slow down for them.

I'm now leaning more to the ARB type of bar.

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Reply By: Member - Michael P (QLD) - Friday, Sep 16, 2011 at 17:47

Friday, Sep 16, 2011 at 17:47
BooBoo,
Have a steel ARB bar, hit a bull (about 3/4 grown) The bar folded back onto the grille small crack, broke the windscreen washer bottle few scratches on the bar plus the crumple brackets were US,the rubber buffers gone.
A new install kit from ARB some plastibond for the water bottle plus some bared knuckles & all good again.Contacted the property owner to butcher his stock .
The kit from memory was about $240.00
The only problem is dealing with ARB actually had to go to 3 franchises to establish that they did sell the install kit and I didn't have to buy a complete new bar.
Hope this helps.
Mike.
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Follow Up By: Member - Boo Boo (NSW) - Friday, Sep 16, 2011 at 18:42

Friday, Sep 16, 2011 at 18:42
Mate

I hope you enjoyed the steak. LOL

Oh, and its good to see the ARB did the job.

Thank you.

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Reply By: CSeaJay - Friday, Sep 16, 2011 at 19:19

Friday, Sep 16, 2011 at 19:19
There is not much one can do about the bars being close to the body which is one of your concerns.

This is amongst others to do with ADR which again is about pedestrian safety

The old days of the protruding bars are gooooone

CJ
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Follow Up By: Member - Boo Boo (NSW) - Sunday, Sep 18, 2011 at 19:11

Sunday, Sep 18, 2011 at 19:11
You're right.

It seems that being close id not that much of a problem based on other replies.

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Reply By: Rosss- Saturday, Sep 17, 2011 at 11:33

Saturday, Sep 17, 2011 at 11:33
Hi Boo Boo, Have a look at "FX Enterprises" web site, I have the deluxe triple loop bar on a Colorado, Looks excellent and works well, although I have not used it on an Animal, I did take out the side of a new falcon with it, never moved and all I have to do is give it a good polish to get the white paint from the falcon off it. You won't be disappointed, it was $1500.00 fitted in Bundaberg Qld.

Cheers Ross.
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Follow Up By: Member - Boo Boo (NSW) - Sunday, Sep 18, 2011 at 19:13

Sunday, Sep 18, 2011 at 19:13
Mate

I'm in Bundy in a week, will have a look at it.
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Follow Up By: Meggs - Saturday, Sep 24, 2011 at 15:32

Saturday, Sep 24, 2011 at 15:32
If you're in Bundy look up TJM as I got one fitted to a Ranger for $1000.
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Follow Up By: Member - Boo Boo (NSW) - Saturday, Sep 24, 2011 at 15:48

Saturday, Sep 24, 2011 at 15:48
Thanks for the info Meggs


I will be in Bundy tomorrow.

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Follow Up By: Member - Boo Boo (NSW) - Tuesday, Sep 27, 2011 at 18:05

Tuesday, Sep 27, 2011 at 18:05
I got a quote from TJM here in Bundy and it was $1100.

Rang Newcastle in NSW and they want $1120.

Hornsby wanted $1285. He wasn't too happy when I told him he was way off the mark.

I have now arranged to have it done in Newcastle when I get home.

ARB wanted $1550 for a fitted bar.

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Follow Up By: Meggs - Tuesday, Sep 27, 2011 at 19:07

Tuesday, Sep 27, 2011 at 19:07
God you now know what and where to get it. TJM in Bundy were $200 less than the Sunshine Coast for a bullbar for the Ranger
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Follow Up By: Member - Boo Boo (NSW) - Tuesday, Sep 27, 2011 at 21:30

Tuesday, Sep 27, 2011 at 21:30
Meggs

It was funny to listen to the bloke in Hornsby give the excuses for why he was dearer.

He said it was cheaper in Bundy because the distribution centre was up that way.

Then Newcastle was not making any money on it because it would cost them $100 to freight it down etc.

Newcastle had ordered 20, of which 17 were on order. I doubt wether they would have paid $2000 to freight them down.

Anyway I'm happy with the bar and the price.

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Reply By: Member - Howard (ACT) - Saturday, Sep 17, 2011 at 20:41

Saturday, Sep 17, 2011 at 20:41
BooBoo
word of warning re ironman bars, my son has a 2010 colorado and got an Ironman winch compatable bar fitted when purchased.on pickup found
dealer had to cut flares on front wheel arches to fit bulbar.
my cousin has similar vehicle and got TJM bar no need to cut.top of bar was profiled to clear flares.
I assume body panels are same on dmax and colorado but might pay you to check
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Follow Up By: Member - Boo Boo (NSW) - Sunday, Sep 18, 2011 at 19:15

Sunday, Sep 18, 2011 at 19:15
Howard

It seems ironman is now out of the picture. Thanks mate.
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Follow Up By: Rosss- Sunday, Sep 18, 2011 at 21:52

Sunday, Sep 18, 2011 at 21:52
Boo Boo, With the colorado the flares are 2 piece, to fit the FX Bar they just unbolted the bottom piece and the bar slides in just under the top piece.

Cheers Ross.
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Reply By: Bobba - Sunday, Sep 18, 2011 at 20:08

Sunday, Sep 18, 2011 at 20:08
We have a plastic Smartbar and can only comment on one hit - a medium roo at 80km/hr. I couldn't see any mark of where it hit and in fact the roo survived which goes along their 'pedestrain friendly' advertising. For me though, I then had to put the roo down!

Mark.
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Follow Up By: Rosss- Sunday, Sep 18, 2011 at 22:07

Sunday, Sep 18, 2011 at 22:07
Hi Bobba, Trouble is you can't get a smart bar for the colorado or dmax, because thats what I wanted in the first place, when I rang them to find out they said wasn't enough call to develop one for these vehicles.

Ross.
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Follow Up By: Bobba - Sunday, Sep 18, 2011 at 22:29

Sunday, Sep 18, 2011 at 22:29
That won't help their sales then! I noticed that Nissan are offering a Smartbar as an original accessory, I think they call it their 'Enviro' bar.

Good luck with your search - if I couldn't get a Smartbar I'd go the premium TJM bar, whatever they call that. I've always like the design and the 4WD Action test (can't always believe them!) showed they held up better than all bar the Tuff bullbars.

Cheers,

Mark.
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Reply By: Albany Nomads - Saturday, Sep 24, 2011 at 00:19

Saturday, Sep 24, 2011 at 00:19
I was just doing a search for Bull Bars for Rodeos and came across this thread.
I went in and looked at the TUFF Bullbars web site...and some I see (not all) are 5 post bull bars
Its no wonder they dont sell them in WA..as over here its illegal to have a 5 post bull bar on your ute:
John
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Follow Up By: Alloy c/t - Saturday, Sep 24, 2011 at 08:17

Saturday, Sep 24, 2011 at 08:17
Illegal ? Thats a load of BULL.
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Follow Up By: Member - Boo Boo (NSW) - Saturday, Sep 24, 2011 at 15:53

Saturday, Sep 24, 2011 at 15:53
John

I had a look at them the other day and while they ar a good bar they are around the $2700 mark.

I think theyare legal in NSW.

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