Water when travelling

Submitted: Monday, Sep 19, 2011 at 20:23
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Hi everyone,
We are planning a trip around Aus in our new van next year and I was looking for ideas and tips for topping up the water tanks when travelling. We intend to do quite a bit of free camping national Parks etc. I am thinking good supply of fresh water may be our biggest problem. We are totally self sufficient for everything else. Any comments and advise welcome
Thanks
Ken
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Reply By: BrownyGU - Monday, Sep 19, 2011 at 20:39

Monday, Sep 19, 2011 at 20:39
G'Day Ken,

Mate unless you are going quite remote, you'll be surprised at the availability of water, it's in plenty of locations, If for instance you plan on doing a "Camps 6" type of trip, you'll see plenty of camps listed with water, and weather its drinkable or not.

Obviously dependant on your water capacity.

All of the National Parks we have done so far have had water, plenty of road side stops now have water tanks attached to facilities etc.

We recently did the Gibb, and every roadhouse and camp site we stopped at had oodles of water available.

But if you are planning on Simpson, Anne Beadell etc, I'm sure you'll get plenty of tips here.

Cheers....Browny
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Follow Up By: ken triton - Monday, Sep 19, 2011 at 20:43

Monday, Sep 19, 2011 at 20:43
Thank's Browny, just wasn't to sure how easy it would be so that sounds like it should not be much of problem
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Follow Up By: Member Andys Adventures - Tuesday, Sep 20, 2011 at 06:44

Tuesday, Sep 20, 2011 at 06:44
I would use a filter when filling from any water source including town water. There are a few towns that still boil there water. I carry 2/65lt water tanks for drinking water and 1/65lt for tank, river and bore water (Boil water).

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Reply By: Member - DAZA (QLD) - Monday, Sep 19, 2011 at 20:42

Monday, Sep 19, 2011 at 20:42
G/Day Ken

How many water tanks are there and volume?.

We have 3 x 95 litre tanks but only keep one full.

It depends on how much you want to use for showering ect.

Also drinking and cooking.

Some will tell you they wash in a bucket to conserve water it depends on your own needs.

Also what sort of extra weight are you prepaired to lug around.

As you know more weight means extra fuel.

Note! We used to fill all three tanks before I asked a similar question on this forum.

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Follow Up By: ken triton - Monday, Sep 19, 2011 at 20:47

Monday, Sep 19, 2011 at 20:47
Thank's Daza
We have 2 x 95 L and I can separate the tanks. One for drinking cooking and the other for washing etc. So I think we will manage ok. Totally agree on the weight v fuel usage
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Follow Up By: Member - DingoBlue(WA) - Monday, Sep 19, 2011 at 21:13

Monday, Sep 19, 2011 at 21:13
Hi Ken,
We carry 120lt water plus 100l fuel plus recovery gear on the roof rack. The readers of '4WD Action' will tell you that the vehicle will fall over, but after 500,000km I think we probably have another half a thousand clicks, if we drive sensibly. My point is, that regardless of how much water you carry (which must be adequate for your needs/trip), you needn't be too concerned about the additional fuel consumption. The extra water you carry will far outweigh any additional cost in fuel (from a safety point of view). I don't think any calculations regarding water weight and additional fuel consumption have ever shown any significant difference in fuel consumption other than the new CR high speed diesel engines where every extra kilo seems to cost money.
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Follow Up By: ken triton - Monday, Sep 19, 2011 at 21:21

Monday, Sep 19, 2011 at 21:21
Thank's for that, it is fantastic hearing real life experiences. It is better to be safe when you maybe a long way from help
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Follow Up By: kidsandall - Tuesday, Sep 20, 2011 at 21:07

Tuesday, Sep 20, 2011 at 21:07
Dingoblue, what vehicle are you driving? That's 220 plus kgs of weight on the roof not including the roof rack. I'm not worried about it falling over, more the legallity and safety of that much weight on the roof.

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Follow Up By: Member - DingoBlue(WA) - Tuesday, Sep 20, 2011 at 23:31

Tuesday, Sep 20, 2011 at 23:31
Hi K&A,
Vehicle is HJ60 Landcruiser with full gutters. Best specified load rating I can determine is 200kg rating for 80 series.
Need to be aware of load and drive accordingly.
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Follow Up By: kidsandall - Wednesday, Sep 21, 2011 at 07:19

Wednesday, Sep 21, 2011 at 07:19
I would suspect the 80 series and 60 series would be different load rating as there suspension/steering is different. Also the roof load capacity is different to the total load capacity. Most 4x4's have a roof load capacity of around 70-100 kg. This is total weight, including roofrack and everything. It may be worth you contacting toyota to check you weight limit on the roof. Being over weight can effect your insurance and legal rights.

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Follow Up By: Member - DingoBlue(WA) - Wednesday, Sep 21, 2011 at 17:15

Wednesday, Sep 21, 2011 at 17:15
As I said Josh,
I am unable to determine a 'roof load capacity' for my 60. It's true that the 60 and 80 are different vehicles with different suspension and that is probably why 'Rhino Racks' state that you can fit up to 4 racks, each rated to 100kg on the 60.
My rack is stronger than the "Rhino' so in theory I should be able to carry more weight although I don't choose to do so.
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Reply By: Bushranger1 - Monday, Sep 19, 2011 at 20:45

Monday, Sep 19, 2011 at 20:45
G'day Ken,

Well firstly don't have all your eggs in one basket.
In addition to your van water tank get some 10L good quality plastic drums for water. 20L ones tend to be a bit on the heavy side.

This way if you get a leak you still have a backup supply & if you get some water thats a bit suspect you can keep it separate for washing up or washing yourselves.

As for getting water from creeks etc that you wish to put in your van tank just take a bucket & funnel. If your getting water from wells then a steel bucket & rope is the go.

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Follow Up By: ken triton - Monday, Sep 19, 2011 at 21:04

Monday, Sep 19, 2011 at 21:04
Thanks Stu,
Good advice, I will trow in a couple 10L water containers that I use when camping
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Ken
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Follow Up By: Witi Repartee - Monday, Sep 19, 2011 at 21:24

Monday, Sep 19, 2011 at 21:24
Hi...in case you haven't already done so make sure you have a potable water quality hose and a variety of sizes of hose to tap fittings...always have a couple of spares as inevitably you will drive off from a motor camp or park and leave a fitting on the tap.
If you need to get water from parks or public amenity blocks...get a universal tap key from Bunnings so you can turn on public taps. (look out for recycled water signs..!) We did 2 years on the road...did lots of bush camping and remote areas...we had a 60 litre tank under the caravan and 2 x 20 litre jerrycans and never ran out or got so low we were concerned.
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Reply By: Bob Y. - Qld - Monday, Sep 19, 2011 at 21:31

Monday, Sep 19, 2011 at 21:31
Ken,

Get one of those "food friendly" hoses, with fittings, think they might be a blue colour, so your water isn't tainted by using any old hose that might be at the filling site.

Some of those el cheapo hoses really put a taste in the water, and it isn't pleasant.

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Follow Up By: Bob Y. - Qld - Monday, Sep 19, 2011 at 21:36

Monday, Sep 19, 2011 at 21:36
Just shows you have to read all replys/follow-ups, before making a comment.

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Reply By: Motherhen - Tuesday, Sep 20, 2011 at 00:19

Tuesday, Sep 20, 2011 at 00:19
Hi Ken

We do it without fancy filters or pumps, and only put known good water into our tanks. Otherwise we use direct from a bucket.

I have a number of hints on collecting water, economising when water is running short, and on emergency water sources here - scroll down the index to Water:Water

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Follow Up By: Puma1 - Tuesday, Sep 20, 2011 at 23:25

Tuesday, Sep 20, 2011 at 23:25
Use a filter you can attach to a hose to fill your tanks, I bought one of these on eBay put this number in the eBay search 400244192371 The filter has silver in it - silver kills bacteria.
A human hair is 40 microns thick those filters are 2 microns, remember you're the one that's going to drink what you put in your tank!
I also have a 0.2 micron filter attached to the tap inside and any drinking water is going through that before I drink it - better safe than sorry - I hate spewing out of both ends at the same time!!
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Follow Up By: Motherhen - Wednesday, Sep 21, 2011 at 10:59

Wednesday, Sep 21, 2011 at 10:59
As Puma says, you can filter water into then use safely from your tanks. My articles briefly outline various types of filters. Some choose rather than filtering into the tanks to have the filter under the sink for the drinking water tap, as generally showering and washing water need not be filtered. Unless you or someone in your family has an immunity disorder, normal precautions avoid picking up gastro types of illnesses.

My easy and simple method is to only put known good quality (and palatable) water into the tanks, and when drawing from rivers and pools or even using town water which fails the 'cup of tea taste test', to use it direct from a bucket. If short of drinking water, boil it before drinking. We touring we found good water at Boulia and topped up everything including cool drink bottles for extra drinking water as we were heading to Winton! Using the bucket method, our next fill was at Gloucester in NSW quite some weeks later where others had told us water quality was very good. So easy to manage and no mucking around with hoses, pumps and filters. This works for us.

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