Tyre Issue

Ted,

May be you should have bought more raffle tickets LOL


You will never win with a Coopers Rep ..................... I know from experience, so no more Cooper tires for me ;)

Cheers Kev

Thats no good Ted

In your calculation , I think you are saying you have to pay $85 for each new one. I presume thats fitted or is that extra ?

Any reason given for tyre failure ?

It's actually a compound issue and a fault with the tyre. You should not have to be paying anything for this. I had radial cracking around the rim in almost the same place on a set of new ST's They were replaced through the dealer with no change over what-so-ever. They had about 7000 km on them at the time. It is very much a hazard to safety. It would be very handy if you knew someone in the tyre industry. A proper analysis of the fault would probably change the reps attitude quick-smart. I will see if I can locate the advice I was given by an industry expert. MM me with some contact details.

Cheers Mick

By what you have said and as Mick has said its a tyre fault and you shouldn't have paid a cent. You've been had. Go and get your money back or go to Consumer Protection or go to one of the Current Affairs TV programs.

No more Cooper tyres for me, there are better buys around if you look hard enough for less money. And yes you were being lent. Cooper are great at attracting customers but sadly the service doesn't match. If it were my tyre company i would have replaced the tyres with new ones without pro-rata, because of the trouble I put you through. Try telling them that your tread wear is also falling short of their claimed ratings, now thats another story.

Ted,

Spoke to my bloke who is ex tyre manafacturing industry. His advice is as follows;

Radial belts on the outside of the tyre, usually run diagonally across the face of the tyre in a crossed pattern. These belts (in normal radial tyres they are known as Flippers or chaffers) should go all the way down the wall of the tyre and wrap around the bead and then continue back up meeting and crossing other side wall materials as a continuous belt.

A poor tie in, where the materials don’t extend all the way down and wrap, will cause a localised flexing event. It is the flexing that causes the cracking. By way of example, if you get the tyre dealer to cut the tyre vertically down across the crack with a hacksaw or similar, you will immediately see the problem when looking at the cross section. There will be a separation between the construction materials.

This is totally a construction issue and unfortunately, the manufacturer will replace them on a pro-rata basis according to use.

Laying and returning the belts as a continuous roll is a very labour intensive process. This used to be done by hand and still is in some specific tyres. It is next to impossible to lay and wrap these belts in the automated, mass produced factories these days hence these flaws occur. Unfortunately it’s not just Coopers and is an industry issue.

It is industry standard to replace them on a pro-rata basis and as yours have 20K on them, they must assume the life of the tyre to be 80K to charge you 25%.

You could try them on I suppose. They replaced mine because they had less than 7K on them.

All the best. Mick

In over 30 years of driving I've had about 3 faulty tyres from various manufacturers nad in each case it was replaced pro rata so what are coopers giving you except a hefty purchase price. Nothing extra for the money as far as i can see because they dont last any longer either.

A mate of mine recently had a new Cooper ST fail on his Landcruiser. It happened on the F3 freeway, north of Sydney, at about 100kph. Luckily it was a rear tyre but it caused about $3500 of damage to the vehicle.

Cooper tyres paid to repair the damage with no problems.

I won't buy Coopers because too many people I know have had "ïncidents" of varying nature but there are many people that swear by them.

eighty matey