Off road Caravan - advice please :-)

We've hired a Cub camper for the last 2 years and loved it. We were going to buy our own Cub but are now thinking we may be better off looking at off road caravans instead. We had a quick look at our local caravan sales yard yesterday at a Coromal F400 Family Camper but we suspect that it's a bit lightweight for what we want and where we'd like to go.

Ideally we'd like to be able to sleep 4 and, being a photographer I'd like to have an inside table for working on my laptop. Shower and toilet aren't a priority.

Any suggestions or advice on what we should be looking at or taking into consideration would be very welcome. Also which websites to look at (preferably for companies based in WA, though happy to travel interstate) for both new and 2nd hand caravans.

Thanks!
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Reply By: Goldmad - Wednesday, Oct 12, 2011 at 15:48

Wednesday, Oct 12, 2011 at 15:48
Hi You could have look at a Goldstream. Done some km's with mine on dirt tracks
standing up to iy ok. You can also get a porta potti and use it in a shower tent.
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Follow Up By: Nicola D - Wednesday, Oct 12, 2011 at 15:53

Wednesday, Oct 12, 2011 at 15:53
Cheers Brian. I've not heard of the Goldstream before. Just hopped on their website...I'm sure I'll be back with more questions soon!
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Follow Up By: Member - Andrew C (WA) - Wednesday, Oct 12, 2011 at 17:53

Wednesday, Oct 12, 2011 at 17:53
Ill second that we have a Goldstream Storm off road trailer and have been very pleased with it easy setup and pack down tow's well and heaps of room.
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Follow Up By: Nicola D - Wednesday, Oct 12, 2011 at 18:40

Wednesday, Oct 12, 2011 at 18:40
Just checked out the Storm - that's looking like the kind of thing we're after! Will have a proper look at the website tonight. Thanks for putting me onto that - I love the internet and the immediate answers you can get to your questions :-)

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Follow Up By: vk1dx - Monday, Oct 17, 2011 at 10:56

Monday, Oct 17, 2011 at 10:56
Just a word on the Goldstream. I was reading a post yesterday. They couldn't even take it on the Telegraph Track up on Cape York.

I realise that the OTL may be a little extreme for what you want, but you may want to keep this in mine. I will be reading your response to Motherhen down further to see what you actually mean by "off road".

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Reply By: Motherhen - Wednesday, Oct 12, 2011 at 16:45

Wednesday, Oct 12, 2011 at 16:45
Hi Nicola

It certainly depends on where you plan to go. Do you want something that you can toddle through the bush with, or do you want one that will stand up to thousands of kilometres of relentless corrugations of our inland roads without falling to pieces? Check the fine print - some badged off road models by conventional manufacturers are only suitable for bitumen, with the ability to go down a short track to a campground or waterfall on the dirt, but to take on rough, stony or corrugated road invalidates warranty. Do a search here on off road caravans, and also on Caravanners Forum. Your question is often asked on both forums.

When you get into the dedicated off roaders, yes they are heavy, and a suitable tow vehicle for the weight is an issue that needs to be considered.

I thoroughly recommend purchasing second hand rather than new. To get the van you want, be prepared to go east, and often the price difference will virtually pay for your drive across.

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Follow Up By: Nicola D - Wednesday, Oct 12, 2011 at 16:52

Wednesday, Oct 12, 2011 at 16:52
All sounds like good advice - thank you :-)

Will check out those links in a moment.

At the moment we've got a Prado which we've used to tow the Cub Campers on some fairly corrugated roads up through central WA and around the Ningaloo coast. Would that be big enough to tow an offroad caravan OK?
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Follow Up By: Motherhen - Wednesday, Oct 12, 2011 at 17:02

Wednesday, Oct 12, 2011 at 17:02
Hi Nicola

You would be unlikely to get a true rough roader with room for four that can be legally and safely towed by a Prado.

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Follow Up By: Member - Keith P (NSW) - Wednesday, Oct 12, 2011 at 19:44

Wednesday, Oct 12, 2011 at 19:44
Another heads up for the Goldstream.
We have a Crown 4B...the off road one WITHOUT the bed ends. Only had it 2 years from new and so far it has been on the Oodnadatta track and Lake Eyre twice..as well as trips around western NSW.
So far it is standing up to our use really well with no real problems apart from small amounts of dust ingress in a cuppla spots. Tube of Sikaflex has sorted that tho. Am in the process atm of fitting solar to it.

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Follow Up By: Nicola D - Wednesday, Oct 12, 2011 at 20:26

Wednesday, Oct 12, 2011 at 20:26
Cheers Keith. Just been bookmarking all the Goldstream web pages I want to show my partner later on :-)
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Reply By: Livin On The Road - Wednesday, Oct 12, 2011 at 22:02

Wednesday, Oct 12, 2011 at 22:02
We got the company to build the caravan to our specifications. I guess it is what you would call a "true offroad" - but we baby it as it is our home, too. As motherhen said, they are heavy as a "true offroad" van ...

Most of the companies that we talked to two years gao that were mid-range and above offered to design the caravan yourself - the standard designs were more for the showroom and to have something to show people rather than something to limit yourself to.
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Follow Up By: Nicola D - Thursday, Oct 13, 2011 at 10:20

Thursday, Oct 13, 2011 at 10:20
Good tip - thank you :-) Enjoyed reading some of your blog posts.
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Follow Up By: Livin On The Road - Thursday, Oct 13, 2011 at 10:56

Thursday, Oct 13, 2011 at 10:56
Thanks Nicola ... we just couldn't find anything "off the rack" that suited four kids, so we asked places. And they almost all said that they custom designed at no extra cost. Jayco were the only ones that didn't, from memory.
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Reply By: Oldman - Thursday, Oct 13, 2011 at 07:35

Thursday, Oct 13, 2011 at 07:35
Have a look at the vans made by AORC


http://www.australianoffroadcampers.com.au
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Follow Up By: Nicola D - Thursday, Oct 13, 2011 at 10:19

Thursday, Oct 13, 2011 at 10:19
Will do - thank you :-)
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Reply By: petesgq - Thursday, Oct 13, 2011 at 16:01

Thursday, Oct 13, 2011 at 16:01
Hi Nicola,

Have a look at the ultimatecamper.
True off roader
dust proof.
quick to set up pack up.
tough as hell.
built in galley kitchen with fridge.
table.
Lot of storage .
And your Prado wont have any trouble towing it.
proven track record in the bush and heaps more.
We have had one for 6 years and we have been to some of the remotes hard to get to spots in oz including off the road all together.
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Follow Up By: Nicola D - Thursday, Oct 13, 2011 at 22:54

Thursday, Oct 13, 2011 at 22:54
Cool - thanks, I'll check them out right now
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Reply By: Steve M1 (NSW) - Thursday, Oct 13, 2011 at 21:37

Thursday, Oct 13, 2011 at 21:37
one of the smaller Trakmasters or a Royal Flair Tuff Roader etc there's plenty of vans that will do the job these days and I don't mean Coromal or Jayco "offroaders"
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Follow Up By: Nicola D - Thursday, Oct 13, 2011 at 22:55

Thursday, Oct 13, 2011 at 22:55
Thanks Steve - new names to me, I'll google them :-)
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Reply By: energy marty - Friday, Oct 14, 2011 at 14:17

Friday, Oct 14, 2011 at 14:17
Free Spirit on the Sunshine Coast do a extremly lightweight true off road caravan - good reviews on them as well.

http://www.freespiritcaravans.com.au/

they claim they can be towed with small 6's.....

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Follow Up By: Nicola D - Monday, Oct 17, 2011 at 09:56

Monday, Oct 17, 2011 at 09:56
I'll have a look at the website right now. Thanks :-)
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Reply By: Member - Captain (WA) - Sunday, Oct 16, 2011 at 00:42

Sunday, Oct 16, 2011 at 00:42
Hi Nicola,

We have the Quantum by AORC and have included the kids beds so we can sleep 4 in it. Its a true off-roader, capable of going anywhere you can tow it. But it is also relatively small and fitting 4 people inside is on the tight side.

But if you want "real" off-road capability, then any dual axle van is simply too big and heavy. The Quantum weighs in at 1650kg empty and up to 2200kg when loaded (280kg is water!) and is only 1950mm wide (marginally narrower than my 200 at 1970mm). Its sized so that you can actually use it off-road and not just on gravel roads, it allows you take it anywhere you would tow a camper trailer but still have the luxuries like a hot shower and flushing toilet at the end of the day.

Cheers

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Follow Up By: Nicola D - Monday, Oct 17, 2011 at 09:55

Monday, Oct 17, 2011 at 09:55
Thanks Captain. Will check those out online today.
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