Alice Springs to Esperance

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Hello all. Im planning a trip from Perth through Laverton, Warburton to Uluru then Alice Springs. On the return leg , instead of heading back to Perth the same way I would like to head down to Esperance then around the coast to Perth. Can anyone tell me what is the best/shortest way to get from Alice Springs to Esperance?. I have only looked on Google maps, its seems that the only options on there are to go via Adelaide, or head back to Kalgoorlie then head south to Esperance. Im not really interested in those options, via Adelaide makes the trip too long, and via Kalgoorlie means I have to double back too far. Im hoping that there is a more direct route available, thanks
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Reply By: Bigfish - Sunday, Oct 16, 2011 at 07:04

Sunday, Oct 16, 2011 at 07:04
I would have thought that if a reasonable rout wasnt shown on a current map then it doesnt exist.
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Follow Up By: grunta1970 - Sunday, Oct 16, 2011 at 14:45

Sunday, Oct 16, 2011 at 14:45
Google maps isnt the best at showing routes off the beaten track, or unsealed roads
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Reply By: Member - Ross G (NT) - Sunday, Oct 16, 2011 at 07:27

Sunday, Oct 16, 2011 at 07:27
There is a road that goes through Kingoonya and comes out near Ceduna. It cuts off the Pt Augusta corner. No need to go to Adelaide.Then you would be going across the Nullarbor and depending on when you are travelling the whales may be migrating along the Bight. Turn left at Norseman and then round the coast to Perth.
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Follow Up By: hagar - Sunday, Oct 16, 2011 at 09:33

Sunday, Oct 16, 2011 at 09:33
did this track a 3 years ago. with 4x4 and road 20 ft van was raining some of the way. All sorts of road surfaces from sandy to rocky and salt pans very little tar only bit at start and finish. is possible if drive to conditions but be prepared to spend hours washing thick sticky mud from van.
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Follow Up By: grunta1970 - Sunday, Oct 16, 2011 at 14:54

Sunday, Oct 16, 2011 at 14:54
Hagar, what time of year was this?.
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Follow Up By: Tjukayirla Roadhouse - Sunday, Oct 16, 2011 at 18:41

Sunday, Oct 16, 2011 at 18:41
Ross G's suggestion is a good one. We did this road from Glendambo a few years ago, and is a nice scenic drive, much nicer, and shorter, than pt augusta.
On your way this way, be sure to drop in and say G'day :-)

Cheers
Al
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Follow Up By: Paul V1 - Sunday, Oct 16, 2011 at 23:33

Sunday, Oct 16, 2011 at 23:33
Did that road in a 96 2 door hyundai excel back in 2008, had a blast.
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Follow Up By: hagar - Tuesday, Oct 18, 2011 at 07:49

Tuesday, Oct 18, 2011 at 07:49
did it in may
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Reply By: Member - Phil B (WA) - Sunday, Oct 16, 2011 at 08:21

Sunday, Oct 16, 2011 at 08:21
Hi Grunta

You'll have to give more info;
I presume you're driving a vehicle you don't make it clear,
is it a 4Wd?
are you towing, if so what?
and so on
with this info we can probably provide a better answer

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Follow Up By: grunta1970 - Sunday, Oct 16, 2011 at 14:53

Sunday, Oct 16, 2011 at 14:53
You are right Phil, sorry, I did leave out vital information. I will be on a motorbike, dual sport, so able to tackle a number of different road conditions as long as it isnt muddy/boggy, or excessively sandy. Ive done alot of travel in WA on the bike, on all sorts of conditions, but as you would know, a motorbike is restricted to where it can go compared to a 4wd. Its very hard getting relevant information from people from here as most people are either giving info based on the ability of a 4wd, or they seem to underestimate the ability of a dual sport bike. As long as I can get solid objective info, I will be able to base my decisions on that. Thanks
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Reply By: Laurie. - Sunday, Oct 16, 2011 at 12:17

Sunday, Oct 16, 2011 at 12:17
Hi. I suppose I'm almost an 'outsider' on this site. But I have explored Oz (Aus.)
and love it. I have done it with 'very basic equipment', not 4WD.
I have explored the majority of what this topic is about a few years back. I have a bundle of shortish, mixed quality video clips up on-line which may be of help to view.
The Kalgoorlie 'set' including the trip across to Uluru via Laverton/Great Central Road is here:



(WARNING. I was very fortunate with the weather as it can foul things up severely on 'The Great Central Road'. Check well first.)

From there one can ramble through the remaining video clips to look at my other Australian 'explorations', if so inclined, or go directly to my Esperance page, :



Good travelling with exploroz.com
Laurie.
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Follow Up By: Laurie. - Sunday, Oct 16, 2011 at 12:29

Sunday, Oct 16, 2011 at 12:29
Esperance.Kalgoorlie.
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Reply By: Member - Joe n Mel n kids (FNQ - Sunday, Oct 16, 2011 at 14:07

Sunday, Oct 16, 2011 at 14:07
Alice to Kal and Esperance.....
We have just done the 'Central Road", it runs almost in a line from Alice Springs to Laverton, it is a fantastic drive that takes you past Ayres Rock, Olgas and accorss some very nice desert country, that is the way i would go, it is a shortcut and well serviced, check it out on the "maps" ...... you will come down from Kal to Norsman to Esperance ... then the follow the coast around to Perth...........
Really no other way to do it..
Cheers
Joe
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Follow Up By: grunta1970 - Sunday, Oct 16, 2011 at 14:56

Sunday, Oct 16, 2011 at 14:56
I just dont want to have to double back from Alice to Laverton to head down to Esperance if i can avoid it, seems like a waste to me, but if I have no other option.
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Follow Up By: Bill BD - Sunday, Oct 16, 2011 at 15:27

Sunday, Oct 16, 2011 at 15:27
I have not done this but if you can get back onto the eyre highway there are tracks through to the Israelite bay area, then you can follow the coast up to Cape Arid, then Esperance. So if you take the route Ross G mentioned "There is a road that goes through Kingoonya and comes out near Ceduna.", then you could follow the highway and pick up the track to Israelite bay somewhere near the WA end of the bight. You need a bloody good map and someone who has done the track to advise.... apparently its pretty rough in places.
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Reply By: Member - *Rusty* - Sunday, Oct 16, 2011 at 16:33

Sunday, Oct 16, 2011 at 16:33
Since you are leaving from perth, why dont you head up the inland hwy - cut accross through sandstone then up to wiluna and do the gunbarrel to Alice, then return back along the great central rd via warburton and laverton? That is the way we were going to do it from Kalgoorlie when we looked into it earlier this year. If you really want to stay off the hwy, when you get to laverton, head to Kalgoorlie via Yarri rd then down to esperance.

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Follow Up By: grunta1970 - Sunday, Oct 16, 2011 at 17:18

Sunday, Oct 16, 2011 at 17:18
That actually looks like a great option Rusty- if I was in a 4wd. Being on a motorbike I think that the Gunbarrel might be beyond its abilities. I have no problem with most road conditions, but from what I have read , it can get quite sandy in some parts, trying to drag 250kgs of bike and gear through heavy sand isnt the easiest
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Reply By: Member - Ross G (NT) - Sunday, Oct 16, 2011 at 17:13

Sunday, Oct 16, 2011 at 17:13
Grunta,
Are by chance a Ulysses member? We have a branch in Alice now. What time of year are you planning this trip? Send a PM and I will give you some contact details for Ulysses in Alice. We would be interested in catching up with you in Alice if we are here.
Ross
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Follow Up By: grunta1970 - Sunday, Oct 16, 2011 at 17:38

Sunday, Oct 16, 2011 at 17:38
No Ross, not a Ulysses member. I dont want to be flamed for this, but Im planning on doing the trip in February. Yes, I realise what the weather will be like. I know what to expect, i have done extreme hot remote bike trips before, mainly up North WA. As long as i can get reliable info relative to bike riding I should be fine.
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Follow Up By: Member - Ross G (NT) - Sunday, Oct 16, 2011 at 18:47

Sunday, Oct 16, 2011 at 18:47
Don't let that stop you. We would still like to catch up with you when you get here. We will be home in February so send a PM if you want to catch up with like minded people in the Alice.
Ross
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Reply By: Member - DingoBlue(WA) - Sunday, Oct 16, 2011 at 21:24

Sunday, Oct 16, 2011 at 21:24
Have just returned (2 days ago) . Perth, Wiluna, Gunbarrel, Heather, Great Central, Yulara, Mereenie Loop to Alice. Returned via old Ghan track to Finke, Dalhousie, Oodnadatta, Coober Pedy, Kingoonya, Wirrula, Ceduna and back across the Nullabor.
You can cut through to Ceduna (turn off Stuart Highway before Glendambo and cut through to Kingoonya) then travel either via Wirulla or Googs track. If You're on a bike, I wouldn't recommend Googs track. Neither would I recommend the Gunbarrel from Wiluna or the Anne Beadell from Laverton. Your best bet would be the Great Central Road
You will have to travel back across the Nullarbor but you can cut down to Esperance on the Balladonia track. (turn left just before the roadhouse)
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Reply By: terry j2 - Monday, Oct 17, 2011 at 23:44

Monday, Oct 17, 2011 at 23:44
No need to go through Adelaide. Straight down highway to Port Augusta and then turn right to Ceduna via Kimba etc. Otherwise as already stated turtn off highway south of Coober Pedy and go via Kingoonya down to Ceduna throughGawler Ranges. It's a few years since I went through there but the dirt road was quite good then.
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Reply By: grunta1970 - Wednesday, Nov 02, 2011 at 01:16

Wednesday, Nov 02, 2011 at 01:16
Hello all. After more research, and more negative feed back( not so much on this site), Im starting to second guess my decision to travel from Perth to Alice in Feb on my bike. Logistically not a problem, its purely the temperature, and, because of the temperature, my safety. Upwards of mid 40s arent something that Im too worried about as such, as long as the bike is moving. Its if I breakdown, crash, etc, then the heat will potentially be causing me some health problems. I dont know.

The frustrating thing is that it seems to be a bad time of year for me to travel. Cant go up north, most likely too much bad weather, rain, roads closed etc and if i want to head inland as planned its too hot, cant win. I definitely dont want to do the south west, not my sort of thing, bores me to tears. What i really want issomething somewhat challenging, some dirt roads, although many sealed roads will obviously have to be used, remote is good, bush camping is a plus, if i can get to see a bit of nice coastline too, that would be a plus. I have 3 weeks to spare for this. I am currently looking at other options, possibly somewhere east of the line between Norseman and Esperance, Im sure there is a way through there somewhere, maybe heading down to the coast if it is viable, Cape Arid, cape le grand, even nuytsland reserve if it is viable.

Im just throwing ideas around, wondering if anyone has any info they would like to share. Thanks
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Reply By: grunta1970 - Saturday, Nov 05, 2011 at 15:38

Saturday, Nov 05, 2011 at 15:38
For those of you who have done the Great Central Road, what are the conditions like when there has been some rain. Does it often get washed out, closed, does it just turn to sticky mud when its wet or is it a more a wet sandy type of surface. Also, does it dry out fast when it rains in the warmer months?. Thanks
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