Nissan Patrol 2.8td GQ egt temps?

Submitted: Wednesday, Oct 19, 2011 at 14:22
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Hi all,

Just got an EGT gauge installed. Short drive hom has it range around the 200 - 300 degress when accelerating. Obviously my engine is all good but at what temp's should I get concerned or back off when out bush?

Should it go up and down when distance driving or should I expect to see it sit in a range and if so what range?

Once I know this I'll know when things are going well and not :)

Thanks,

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Reply By: Fatso - Wednesday, Oct 19, 2011 at 14:42

Wednesday, Oct 19, 2011 at 14:42
I wouldn't worry about it Gossy.
Their beaut little motors & you will probably have more trouble with your gauge than your motor.
I had one of those 2.8's in my GU & all I did was flog the crap out of it.
I'd never considered or even heard of the EGT.
That motor never gave me an ounce of trouble. They are very under rated.
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Follow Up By: Gossy - Wednesday, Oct 19, 2011 at 14:44

Wednesday, Oct 19, 2011 at 14:44
yep! Ours is garaged for trips away so it doesn't get driven aroudn town so 90% of the km's on it are off road. Been great to us.
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Follow Up By: Patrol22 - Wednesday, Oct 19, 2011 at 16:55

Wednesday, Oct 19, 2011 at 16:55
Just one thing to keep an eye on....I had a 1998 GU 2.8 and the 'Jesus' nut holding the harmonic balancer to the crankshaft worked loose and bu$$ered the keyway and thread. Did a bodgy job to fix it and the car is still going strong but I would recommend that you check torque this nut every 50000km or so.
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Follow Up By: Gossy - Wednesday, Oct 19, 2011 at 17:37

Wednesday, Oct 19, 2011 at 17:37
haven't had a close look at it as I only picked up the car today but it's been welded in.
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Follow Up By: Patrol22 - Wednesday, Oct 19, 2011 at 18:10

Wednesday, Oct 19, 2011 at 18:10
Similar "fix" to the one I did :-)
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Reply By: Isuzumu - Wednesday, Oct 19, 2011 at 15:42

Wednesday, Oct 19, 2011 at 15:42
Where is the probe located in the exhaust or the manifold? This will make a difference to reading your temperature, if it is in the exhaust than a reading of no more than 900 C should be seen or 700 C if it is in the manifold.
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Follow Up By: Gossy - Wednesday, Oct 19, 2011 at 15:49

Wednesday, Oct 19, 2011 at 15:49
post turbo. Just knowing those temps will be enough for me to know of a problem or change my driving.

Thanks for the numbers.
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Follow Up By: Bonz (Vic) - Wednesday, Oct 19, 2011 at 15:59

Wednesday, Oct 19, 2011 at 15:59
If its post turbo I would be thinking about changing down a gear if it gets to 550 deg, probably see it climb as you climb a hill or tow something.
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Reply By: kiwicol - Wednesday, Oct 19, 2011 at 16:01

Wednesday, Oct 19, 2011 at 16:01
Have one fitted to my 4.2 diesel GQ. when cruising it sits on about 300, when towing or going up hill i can get it up to about 700.

I have found the best way to use it is to keep the temp right down which gives the best fuel economy. Just taking a slight pressure of the throttle can lower the temp considerably.

It will go up and down with road conditions, towing, up and down hills.

Once you figure out the temps for your normal style of driving it all comes together.

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Follow Up By: Gossy - Wednesday, Oct 19, 2011 at 16:09

Wednesday, Oct 19, 2011 at 16:09
thanks all.
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Reply By: snoopyone - Wednesday, Oct 19, 2011 at 16:09

Wednesday, Oct 19, 2011 at 16:09
Well I had a Patrol and changed to a Croozer 4.2TD

I fitted an EGT post turbo and the temps were as follows

Running solo 300c in O/D legal speed limits.

Towing 2850kg van 325-350c IN 4TH GEAR.

Towing van in O/D went up over 400c on a flat road.

I never pushed it over 520c as that means the cylinders would be 200c hotter and some well known pistons have been known to melt at less than 800c..

I NEVER towed in 5th O/D

See what I am saying.

When driving on normal roads it should stay about the same and only go up if

going up a hill OR MAKING IT LUG in too high a gear as low revs make it overfuel and that makes heat.

Go to the Patrol Forum for confirmation if you are unsure as they are the experts on the model.
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Follow Up By: Gossy - Wednesday, Oct 19, 2011 at 16:12

Wednesday, Oct 19, 2011 at 16:12
good info. Thanks for that.
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Follow Up By: Isuzumu - Wednesday, Oct 19, 2011 at 16:41

Wednesday, Oct 19, 2011 at 16:41
My EGT saved me a huge head ache awhile back, I was towing the c/t along a flat road and noticed the temp on the egt going up, pulled off the road and open the bonnet and did all the normal checks and found nothing out of the ordinary went to get back in to the MU and noticed smoke pouring from a drives side wheel bearing on the c/t, another few hundred meters and boom.
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Follow Up By: Gossy - Wednesday, Oct 19, 2011 at 16:46

Wednesday, Oct 19, 2011 at 16:46
lucky! We're going on a big 5000km trip next year around WA and NT so every bit of insurance helps.
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Follow Up By: snoopyone - Wednesday, Oct 19, 2011 at 18:06

Wednesday, Oct 19, 2011 at 18:06
Best other thing to install is an "Enginesaver Alarm"

Monitors water level and block temperature

Next best thing to the EGT

if you blow a hose will let you know imediately.
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Follow Up By: Isuzumu - Thursday, Oct 20, 2011 at 10:54

Thursday, Oct 20, 2011 at 10:54
Have one of them now to.
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Reply By: Member - Bruce C (NSW) - Thursday, Oct 20, 2011 at 19:06

Thursday, Oct 20, 2011 at 19:06
Hi Gossy,
I have an EGT gauge fitted to my 80 series TD but in my opinion you are better off with an engine guardian or engine saver type of digital temp gauge.

It gives better indication of exactly what is happening. The EGT will, at times be all over the shop depending on what you are towing and how big the hill is but the engine temp will give a more exact idea, speaking from my experience.

I have noticed that the EGT will climb quickly while the engine temperature will only shift a few degrees in those same circumstances.
I have found the digi temp gauge to be far more helpful.

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Follow Up By: snoopyone - Thursday, Oct 20, 2011 at 20:05

Thursday, Oct 20, 2011 at 20:05
I also had a digital temp gauge with the sensor attache to a bolt on the head.
It stayed in the low 80's most of the time but would creep up towards 90 at times.

Highest it got was on a long hill when EGT was at 525 and temp gauge went to 98.

Incidentally I found under most driving conditions the EGT didnt go "al over the shop" at all.
It would if you let the motor lug but in an auto its less likely to do that.

A Toyota factory temp gauge wont move at all especially if you blow a hose and the water drops out
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Follow Up By: Member - Bruce C (NSW) - Thursday, Oct 20, 2011 at 20:42

Thursday, Oct 20, 2011 at 20:42
I can only relate my experiences and those comments are mainly relating to towing. No load conditions the gauge does not vary much more that 200 degrees.

Admittedly my motor is still running in from a complete rebuild.

While the EGT which is in the dump pipe will range between 250c to 600c, the engine temp, as read on an engine guardian digital readout, probe mounted on the thermostat housing as they suggest, will not move more than 3 degrees most of that time telling me that EGTs are not as important as engine temp.

As the water in the thermostat housing is coming directly from the cylinder head and therefore from around the combustion chamber, if the internal temps were rising abnormally then it would show pretty quickly in increased water temps of much more than a couple of degrees. In my case it hasn't so far.

I was talking to a performance mechanic and he said he had his EGT sitting on 900 degrees for 5 kilometres and he held it there purposefully. Not one problem according to him.

I read so much conflicting information on this particular subject, namely EGTs that it only gets more confusing the further one reads on the subject.
One so called authority says one thing and another so called authority says another thing.

The temp gauge on the other hand makes very clear sense to me and my observations support all that I have read on that subject. This is why I advocate the temp gauge as a better alternative. If I was doing it all again I would go the Enginesaver temp gauge and stick the other $200 or more in my pocket. I got one in from America via Ebay for $129 and am very impressed with it.

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