Fitting Aircon

Submitted: Friday, Oct 21, 2011 at 10:49
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Hi all

I am in Maryborough and wanting to fit an Air conditioner to our pop top and require the names of some experienced and reputable companies to carry out the job of either fitting only or supply and fit either in Brisbane or on the Sunshine Coast. I am considering an Aircomand as they are marginally lighter and seem to out perform all others your thoughts and info would be appreciated guys.
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Reply By: Ozhumvee - Friday, Oct 21, 2011 at 19:36

Friday, Oct 21, 2011 at 19:36
Kelvin, while I'm not familiar with the Aircommand unit it is well known that a normal domestic split system is much cheaper, more efficient and quieter than any caravan unit. Ask your local airconditioner supplier as they will have fitted them to caravans.
Lot's of motorhomes have also installed them in lieu of the caravan type units.
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Reply By: Bob Y. - Qld - Friday, Oct 21, 2011 at 22:38

Friday, Oct 21, 2011 at 22:38
Kelvin,

Slip down to Hervey Bay, and see Bob Mitchell from Slide-on Campers, think they're in Islander Drive???

Bob fits little split systems to the aluminium campers he makes, and they might be just what you want. He makes a pretty good camper too. We hope to get one made next year.

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Follow Up By: Bob Y. - Qld - Friday, Oct 21, 2011 at 22:45

Friday, Oct 21, 2011 at 22:45
If you get a split system fitted make sure they use air con hose, not copper pipe, as they do in houses.
Copper pipe won't last long once you hit the road.

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Follow Up By: Bob Y. - Qld - Friday, Oct 21, 2011 at 22:50

Friday, Oct 21, 2011 at 22:50
If you get a split system fitted make sure they use air con hose, not copper pipe, as they do in houses.
Copper pipe won't last long once you hit the road.

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Follow Up By: paulnsw - Saturday, Oct 22, 2011 at 11:26

Saturday, Oct 22, 2011 at 11:26
Bob that is a nonsense. Copper pipe never causes any issues. We have heaps of domestic split systems fitted to vans and motorhomes with copper pipe and never had any issues. There is no issue why copper pipe would not last.
Important thing is to buy quality brand inverter split system like LG, Mitsubishi, Daiken etc. and fit power unit on A frame. Move gas bottles to one side or one each side of power unit.
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Follow Up By: Bob Y. - Qld - Saturday, Oct 22, 2011 at 13:26

Saturday, Oct 22, 2011 at 13:26
Paul,

Not total nonsense, buddy. Your anecdote relates to "heaps" of clients who would mostly be "bitumen huggers", and the quality of the fitting.

My anecdote relates to a local plant operator who had splits fitted to a donga, on a 40' flat top. The copper didn't last, and he replaced with aircon hose.

But on reflection, I notice my hard working 79 series ute (insert large "sigh" here) has alloy pipes for the aircon. Ah well, only trying to help him....

Definitely agree on your suggestion re quality splits, only way to go.

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Follow Up By: paulnsw - Saturday, Oct 22, 2011 at 13:48

Saturday, Oct 22, 2011 at 13:48
Bob all the gas installations are copper on vans and motorhomes and you never hear of the copper pipe breaking. If they don't break why would the split system air con copper piping break? The copper in roof top air conditioners and inside the split systems never breaks so why should the copper between the air handler and external power unit break?
All the copper pipe used is soft annealed and designed to be bent. All piping should be well supported so you don't get flexing. Flexing will eventually break anything.
My neighbour has 4 Mitsubishi Canters 4WD units for joining optic fibre fitted with domestic split systems that go constantly off road and none have had issues with the split system copper piping.
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Follow Up By: Bob Y. - Qld - Sunday, Oct 23, 2011 at 21:52

Sunday, Oct 23, 2011 at 21:52
Righto, Paul, you can fit my new inverter with copper pipe then thanks,

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Reply By: hazo - Saturday, Oct 22, 2011 at 17:56

Saturday, Oct 22, 2011 at 17:56
Firstly I wouldn't even consider a caravan type A/C no matter who manufactures it !
They use antiquated technology, cost a fortune, noisy and are basically crap at what they are supposed to do.

A modern Inverter split system will cost a 3rd as much, be far more efficient, quieter and just simply so much better.

There is no problems with copper pipes if they are installed correctly with good engineering principles, ie. "vibration absorbing loops" left ajacent to connections, and good fixing of pipework runs so movement is minimised.

I used to install large 3 phase electric motors fed with large pyrotenax cabling (a solid copper clad mineral insulated fireproof cable) which had the same appearance and qualities as copper tubing and we never had one single failure due to vibration or placement, because we installed the cabling to allow for a slight movement as the motors stopped and started.

The same principles apply to the pipework associated with split a/c's in mobile situations.

Most a/c installers seem to want to use minimal pipe and keep runs bowstring tight which can eventually lead to stress fractures as the copper is "work hardened" and failure occurs.



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