Nissan X Trail Diesel

Submitted: Sunday, Nov 13, 2011 at 16:13

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John B

I have had a light come on the dash telling me the diesel exhaust filter is blocked and long hard running should clear it. Since then an engine malfunction light has come on also. All three Nissan dealers are unavailable for a week to look at it . Has anyone else had this problem.

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Reply By: Patrol22 - Sunday, Nov 13, 2011 at 17:08

Sunday, Nov 13, 2011 at 17:08

I've had the DPF light come on in my D40 twice John B and each time I was able to effect a clear as I'd read the handbook in detail (not saying you haven't mind you). The first time the DPF light came on I was on the Gary Highway (highway in name only as this is serious corrugations) and couldn't get up to the 80kph speed recommended in the handbook. I locked it is 2nd gear low range and got the RPM above 1600 (ie what is normally is at 80kph on the highway) and the light extinguished after about 10 minutes. The 2nd time it happened one of the vacuum sensor hoses for the turbo had come adrift and fallen on the exhaust manifold therefore no vacuum sensing working. This cause under power problem and also caused the DPF to clagged up....fortunately I was again able to clear it by getting the revs up for about 15 minutes. You haven't said if the car has gone into limp mode.....if this hasn't happened...then you may (just may) be able to do a burn yourself.....try getting up to >1600rpm for 10 minutes. I'm thinking though that as your check engine light is on that the car has already gone into limp mode.

Unfortunately, when the check engine light comes on you are past effecting a regen yourself and a 'forced regen' must be undertaken by a dealer. This is NOT covered by warranty and will cost you in the vicinity of $300 I believe. Unless of course you can point to another issue causing the DPF to clag other than lots of city driving.

Hope this help you a little.

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Follow Up By: Fred G NSW - Sunday, Nov 13, 2011 at 17:19

Sunday, Nov 13, 2011 at 17:19

Had never sat in an XTrail, until 3 weeks ago when I drove a mates XTrail diesel Turbo up the F3 from Sydney to the Hunter Valley.

Wow, don't them little blighters get up and boogey. I was ultra impressed.

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Reply By: Kimba10 - Sunday, Nov 13, 2011 at 20:28

Sunday, Nov 13, 2011 at 20:28

Yep and its common, friend of ours bought one and had the same issue. Took it to Nissan and was lucky they fixed it the first time under warranty (notice I said first time) when it went back the second time and cost him for memory more then $300 he sold it, Was told he needed to give it a run weekly at 80k or more for more then 1/2 and hour to burn the crap out of the exhaust, (has to get to a certain temp for a period of time) Ive also heard this is happening to the suzuki's vitara's new diesel as well...............

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Follow Up By: gbc - Sunday, Nov 13, 2011 at 21:15

Sunday, Nov 13, 2011 at 21:15

ALL common rail diesels fitted with DPFs are on the same principle. We have a 10 tonne euro5 Isuzu truck that has a DPF regenerate cycle the same as a VW Polo. If you live in the city and only do short driving cycles - diesel is not for you - full stop. This stuff isn't privelaged information. Do some homework before being blinkered by litres per hundred stickers.

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Follow Up By: Member - Captain (WA) - Sunday, Nov 13, 2011 at 21:57

Sunday, Nov 13, 2011 at 21:57

Not ALL common rail diesels have DPF's, the 200 series for one doesn't.

Cheers

Captain

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Follow Up By: gbc - Sunday, Nov 13, 2011 at 22:03

Sunday, Nov 13, 2011 at 22:03

Neither does my Colorado. I didn't say all common rails have dpfs. I said all common rails fitted with dpfs have similar cycles.

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Follow Up By: Kimba10 - Sunday, Nov 13, 2011 at 23:16

Sunday, Nov 13, 2011 at 23:16

Yes thats exactly right gbc. He was thinking fuel consumption (like most of us) and yes lives in the city (well very close to it) They did say that was his problem, short runs and not getting hot enough, mind you when he bought it no body bothered to mention it to him. If you actually look at the fuel useage between the petrol and the diesel theres stuff all difference anyway, same with the zuk..............Specs from red book
diesel xtrail
Fuel Urban (l/100km) 9.3

Fuel Extra Urban (l/100km) 6.3
$45,240

Petrol xtrail
Fuel Urban (l/100km) 11.5

Fuel Extra Urban (l/100km) 7.7
$44,490*

Suzuki
Petrol 4cyl
Fuel Combined (l/100km) 9.9
$37,990

V6 Petrol
Fuel Combined (l/100km) 10.5
$41,490

Diesel
Fuel Combined (l/100km) 7.6
$34,990 Manual only This basically a basic model
only 1 spec the V6 top of the range and so is the 4
Base model price in petrol is $28,990

Not sure Id pay the extra for the diesel based on these fuel figures ??

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Follow Up By: gbc - Monday, Nov 14, 2011 at 06:35

Monday, Nov 14, 2011 at 06:35

Couldn't agree more. Fuel for a city car is cheap. Like I've already outlined, we use diesels for our work vehicles because I like them. Bought the mrs a new SUV two months ago and all the dealers are pushing the diesel versions. I knew damn well I be waking up every second saturday and driving the stupid thing to clean the dpf - not great economy any more.
I ended up buying a subaru tribeca that hoses down about 17l/100 around town. But it's a petrol motor that goes each morning (like a scalded cat if need be) and doesn't need extra attention. Fuel on a vehicle that's lucky to do 10 000 km a year really is about the cheapest expense on that vehicle.

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Reply By: patsproule - Monday, Nov 14, 2011 at 06:05

Monday, Nov 14, 2011 at 06:05

There is a fairly strong trade in DPF delete pipes. They are often called "race pipes". There is a lot of argument over the legality of course.

Pat

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Follow Up By: gbc - Monday, Nov 14, 2011 at 06:38

Monday, Nov 14, 2011 at 06:38

Where's the argument? That's like cutting the Cat Converters out of a petrol/diesel engine and we all know how well agueing the legalities of that is going to go.

If a CR diesel doesn't have a DPF it has a cat convertor.

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Follow Up By: patsproule - Monday, Nov 14, 2011 at 11:18

Monday, Nov 14, 2011 at 11:18

And some have both a cat & a DPF. Many argue that since DPF's are not actually mandated in Aus yet that they can remove them. In the case of the Pajero they were fitted from 2006 through 2009 and then dropped with the newer model, so some base their argument on that. As far as I know, tampering with any factory fitted emissions control system is illegal. But then many have argued against that one too.

Pat

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Follow Up By: Patrol22 - Monday, Nov 14, 2011 at 18:39

Monday, Nov 14, 2011 at 18:39

Yep can confirm that some have both...my 2008 auto D40 has both a DPF and and Cat. Frankly the DPF is not a problem....I travel to and from work at speed of up to 80kph but not at that speed for very often. The degree of blockage of the DPF also depends a lot on how you drive.....race through the gears and generate soot and you will have a problem - take it gentle you won't. I certainly don't take it driving every saturday to do a burn off of the DPF and haven't needed to either.

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Reply By: John B - Monday, Nov 14, 2011 at 08:25

Monday, Nov 14, 2011 at 08:25

Hi All
Thanks for replies .
I live in Country Nsw Dubbo about 20klm,s out of town
Car has 67000klm up in two years, ( we use it) It regularly travels to Sydney or North Coast and of course tows our the Van.
Light came on then 10klm later engine light came on.
I am having some trouble getting it in to dealer to day but have been Quoted about $160.00
This is a suitable vehicle for us which we bought for the towing ability and torque. but we had to accept the manual trans. as auto not available.

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Follow Up By: John B - Monday, Nov 14, 2011 at 20:30

Monday, Nov 14, 2011 at 20:30

Hi All
Had to drive to Parkes to day about 115klms each way but they fixed the car took an hour and have cost $180 including new engine oil filter etc... I was pleased with the cost.
Asked about the problem and was told by the mechanic and foreman very few are done there it usually cleans itself.
Thanks for input.

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