UHF call points
Submitted: Friday, Nov 18, 2011 at 14:09
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Member - John and Val
During a recent trip in Queensland along a winding hilly road that was used by heavy trucks we saw a lot of signs. As far as we can recall each one was numbered, designated as a call point and giving a UHF channel to use. We have seen these signs once or twice before in mining areas (WA) where there was a lot of truck activity.
Our assumption was that these were
places where trucks could call ahead to let other trucks know where they were. Is this a correct assumption or have we missed something?
Also are other road users meant to call ahead from these points?
Cheers,
Val.
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Reply By: Member - Andrew L (QLD) - Friday, Nov 18, 2011 at 14:28
Friday, Nov 18, 2011 at 14:28
Possibly a road works site adjacent, they are often divided into sectors, as there may also be different contracts for each sector.
A part of OHS for the site, and formalises comms between supervisors, equipment operators, contractors and providors....etc.
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Reply By: Member - Tezza Qld - Friday, Nov 18, 2011 at 14:29
Friday, Nov 18, 2011 at 14:29
Hi Val
The call points you refer to are for trucks to make a call on channel 40 to inform other trucks of their whereabouts on a certain section of road. You may have noticed the call points are close to a bridge,. causeway, or a road narrowing.
Also used for wide loads.
On approaching the
sign the truck will call eg "southbound train from call point 19 "
This is to warn other vehicles, mostly the trucks or more so roadtrains of their approach..As the call signs are placed at both ends of a road variation it is easy to work out if you are approaching the calling vehicle.
A great idea which seems to work very
well
Cheers Teza
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Follow Up By: Bob Y. - Qld - Friday, Nov 18, 2011 at 14:49
Friday, Nov 18, 2011 at 14:49
Tezza has explained it perfectly, usually on approaches to bridges etc.
The "highway" between Charter's Towers, The Lynd, and Mt Garnett has about 40-50 of these signs scattered along the h'way, as all the bridges are narrow, and often down in a gully.
Great safety feature, for all motorists, not just roadtrains.
Bob.
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Follow Up By: CSeaJay - Friday, Nov 18, 2011 at 20:11
Friday, Nov 18, 2011 at 20:11
Hi Bob
Yes good example and I travel that same Lynd road regularly
It strikes me every time what a good idea it is - but none of the trucks or trains use it! Wnet through once and had about 10 trains come through, and yes my radio worked fine.
Strange I thought
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Reply By: Rangiephil - Friday, Nov 18, 2011 at 14:39
Friday, Nov 18, 2011 at 14:39
Yes , I have been oin that road and found it valuable to know that a truck was coming.
AFAIK they are
mine trucks.
Regards Philip A
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Follow Up By: Member - Russnic [NZ] - Friday, Nov 18, 2011 at 15:42
Friday, Nov 18, 2011 at 15:42
Ht
I found them a great too, hear a truck approaching and have plenty of time to get out of the way, reply and tell them I am out of the way, c,mon. And then some idiot passes when you pull over.
UHF works
well in Aus wish more would use it here.
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Reply By: Andrew & Jen - Friday, Nov 18, 2011 at 15:54
Friday, Nov 18, 2011 at 15:54
Hullo John and Val
Good comment. I also find that logging trucks in hilly forest areas with narrow winding roads use UHF for the same purpose, often referencing bridges, named bends and saddles/passes, etc to give other trucks warning they are in a particular section.
I often hear them refer to me, eg "white LC coming", to warn other trucks and I confirm location and intention, which is generally appreciated, albeit at times gruffly ;-)
I have also found "unofficial" signs on the side of some roads locating mobile coverage spots in mountainous terrain - very useful as by the time you hear the beep beep of a message received, it is difficult to back up and find
the spot
Cheers
Andrew
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Reply By: Gone Bush (WA) - Friday, Nov 18, 2011 at 16:57
Friday, Nov 18, 2011 at 16:57
I downloaded a brochure on it once, I'll have to find it.
We used it ourselves on a couple of QLD highways as we are the same size as a decent truck anyway. 15 metres with the van.
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Reply By: JAX W - Friday, Nov 18, 2011 at 20:27
Friday, Nov 18, 2011 at 20:27
We have been pleased to use this system on the Lynd Road last year. Usually triple road trains travelling in the area - both cattle and mines related.
We had a terriffic response from the truckies when we called at each point: "North bound large caravan at Point 19". When the truckies replied I would advise them that we would get off the road and let them stay on top and maintain speed.
Other road users ignored the arrangement and inevitably were sprayed with rocks etc when the road trains had to get off the top of the road.
It worked
well for us, but some of the people we spoke to at the Undarra Larva Tubes that travelled without calling suffered damage to their vehicles and vans.
I think it is a great idea.
Regards, Jack
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Follow Up By: Member - Tony S (WA) - Friday, Nov 18, 2011 at 21:03
Friday, Nov 18, 2011 at 21:03
Yes agree with you Jax, The 2 times we have been to Q'land, have used the system . I appreciated the calls and I think most trucks did also.
Tony
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Follow Up By: westskip - Saturday, Nov 19, 2011 at 09:27
Saturday, Nov 19, 2011 at 09:27
It's an excellent idea. We had the pleasure of following a road train on this road a couple of years ago. Infact there were three or four vans following him and at each call point he would announce that he was coming together with the number of vans. Made the trip very easy as we never needed to get off the bitumen and it was most interesting chatting to the driver.
John & Helen
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Reply By: Crackles - Friday, Nov 18, 2011 at 21:34
Friday, Nov 18, 2011 at 21:34
In Victoria on narrow logging roads they signpost the truck routes starting with the uhf channel to monitor then distance signs every km from a major point. For example in the Buckland Valley they start at BV1 from the end of the sealed road & the truckies call their position and direction. Four wheel drives don't usually need to call their position although if towing a big van may be handy.
Cheers Craig......
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Reply By: The Bantam - Friday, Nov 18, 2011 at 21:38
Friday, Nov 18, 2011 at 21:38
As
well as road trains, those areas will be frequented by overdimension loads.
mostly the pilots ( even on the main coatal highways) will call oncomming heavy traffic on channel 40.
Nominating width, so the oncommer knows how wide a berth they need to swing.
these numbered call points would be very usefull for that.
cheers
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Reply By: Motherhen - Friday, Nov 18, 2011 at 21:54
Friday, Nov 18, 2011 at 21:54
Hi Val
When we were in the
Kimberley in 2008, there were a number of single lane bridges between the Victoria Highway
Junction and
Halls Creek. These may have been replaced with new wider bridges by now as a roadworks progtramme was underway. Although not signed, at those with poor visibility trucks of all types announced eg 'truck approaching xxxx bridge northbound'. A
sedan without UHF may have time to stop quickly and back off when they met a truck on the bridge, but for those with a caravan, being alert and ourselves announcing was essential.
Other
places such as on mining or logging routes,
signage specified the channel to use and bridges or crests may be numbered and signed to announce.
Motherhen
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Reply By: Bob Y. - Qld - Monday, Nov 21, 2011 at 09:18
Monday, Nov 21, 2011 at 09:18
Been away for a couple of days, but took this photo a couple of years ago. There's not a lot of bitumen there!
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Bob.
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Reply By: Member - John and Val - Monday, Nov 21, 2011 at 14:19
Monday, Nov 21, 2011 at 14:19
Thanks for all the replies, next time we are on one of these roads we will be better prepared.
We drove the Kennedy and
Gregory Dev roads (via The Lynd) this year and while I dont recall seeing call signs along there they must help with overtaking as the road is very narrow.
The road that I had in mind when I asked the question was the gravel road running from just east of Mt Surprise north to Almaden. It more or less follows the old railway. Especially in the northern section there was a lot of roadwork around a formidable curved (and blind) single lane causeway. Surprisingly though we heard few trucks making calls and of the few that we did hear a high proportion were pretty unintelligible at least to our ears.
Cheers,
Val.
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Follow Up By: Fatso - Monday, Nov 21, 2011 at 19:12
Monday, Nov 21, 2011 at 19:12
G'day Val.
They are hauling ore for concentration in triple road trains from North of
Chillagoe to Mt Garnet via the Ootan-Mt Surprise Rd & the Sundown Rd.
That's why there are all the call points.
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