DIY dash pod

Submitted: Sunday, Dec 07, 2003 at 23:38
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Thinking of making a dash pod to house our UHF. If we go down this road will probably also incoporate a small speaker for UHF and a recess to house the GPS. Basically would like to keep the pod as low profile as possible, run wires out the back of the pod and down through the vents and cover it with a nice piece of leather that I already have to match the GU's dash so the whole thing should look nice and tidy.

We don't want to do anything to permanently alter the dash so dirlling holes etc is not an option. Had a look at the pics and fitting instructions for commercially made dashpods from Dpt of the Interior to get some ideas, particularly on how to mount them - they use velco which seems like a good idea. However, I'm wondering just how effective it is once the pod has the weight of UHF etc in it, a bit of dust around and shaking from corregations etc.

Would appreciate any feedback or idea's, particularly from those that have some experience with dash pods or similar.

:o) Melissa
Petrol 4.5L GU Patrol &
Camprite TL8 offroad camper
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Reply By: Member - Cocka - Monday, Dec 08, 2003 at 00:20

Monday, Dec 08, 2003 at 00:20
The amount of velcro needs to be proportinate to the forces you might apply. That's something you will have to work out as you know the weight of the unit, make it as light as possible. The adhesive part of the velcro is where the weakness comes just make sure the adhesive surfaces are spotless and smooth and go for a bit of over kill. The double sided stickey tape like they use for mirrors is really strong, just make sure you can get a knife edge in the gap to remove the unit when you need to. The surfaces will clean up with turps. Out of what are you going to make the pod ? Timber is not a good surface for these types of adhesive tapes, aluminium would be great. My 2c worth.Carpe Diem
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Follow Up By: Member - Melissa - Monday, Dec 08, 2003 at 01:00

Monday, Dec 08, 2003 at 01:00
Hi John,

Your comments make sense. Agree we should go for overkill on the velcro stakes...better too much than too little. Was thinking of making the pod from timber because as a longtime, keen woodworker I have the skills and if I use flexible ply over a light, pine frame I figure I can achieve a nice moulded look rather than an angular look. Had already thought about sticking velcro to timber - agree it won't work. Instead, I was thinking of tacking some thin plastic strip to the base of the timber frame and then sticking velcro to this.

:o) MelissaPetrol 4.5L GU Patrol &
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Reply By: V8troopie - Monday, Dec 08, 2003 at 02:08

Monday, Dec 08, 2003 at 02:08
Melissa, it has been my experience that when you stick something rigid (your dash pod) to something rigid, like a dash board, by using velcro or double sided tape, it is very very difficult to get it off again.
You see, these things release by a peeling action, something you cannot do with a rigid wooden dashpod frame once its stuck at all corners.
You could wedge something under double sided tape and, very slowly, get it to release (if its the good stuff). The cheap stuff will tear in the middle more likkely.

With velcro, the best way to release it is by forcing a thin strip ( like a metal ruler) in between the hook and loop tapes. That way you can lift off one side and then peel the other sideways.
Keep that in mind when you lay on your strips, for later access with a wedge or a ruler :-)
Instead of tacking on a plastic strip to hold the velcro adhesive backing, why not varnish or paint the part to a smooth finish? That is, unless you particularly like the bare wood effect . A tacked on strip holds only as well as the tacks, you might need quite a few to equal the power of a good velcro grip.
Have fun making it.
Klaus
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Follow Up By: Member - Melissa - Monday, Dec 08, 2003 at 12:25

Monday, Dec 08, 2003 at 12:25
Hi Klaus,

Your comments re: pod being hard to get off goes to exactly what we want to achieve. You see once we fit the pod, we'll have little need to remove it unless we need to mend or replace the UHF, or until some distant future time when we sell the vehicle. Guess the trick is to make sure we leave enough room at the edge of the pod to slide a knife or metal ruler underneath for these rare occasions.

Wooden frame won't be visible at all so varnish/plastic strip doesn't matter so long as we get a good sticking surface.

:o) MelissaPetrol 4.5L GU Patrol &
Camprite TL8 offroad camper
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Reply By:- Monday, Dec 08, 2003 at 07:59

Monday, Dec 08, 2003 at 07:59
I made one years ago with drill and self tapping screws,

You gotta love the (almost) flat steel dash of a troopy.

When i changed to a (also home made) roof console, I covered up my drill holes with a dash mat
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Reply By: Member - Ross - Monday, Dec 08, 2003 at 08:37

Monday, Dec 08, 2003 at 08:37
Melissa

All of the above advice is sound .... except I would avoid using turps as it leaves an oily residue. Shellite is the go but I strongly advise applying a spot to an inconspicious area first to make sure there is no adverse reaction.I wasn't even there when it happened ..

Rosco
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Reply By: Member - Des Lexik(SA) - Monday, Dec 08, 2003 at 09:15

Monday, Dec 08, 2003 at 09:15
G'day Melissa,
If you're going for the velcro option, there are various grades of quality around. The better quality ones won't let you down.
Your local canvas or vinyl worker may have stocks on hand.ne cede malis
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Follow Up By: Member - Melissa - Monday, Dec 08, 2003 at 12:48

Monday, Dec 08, 2003 at 12:48
Thanks for the tip.

:o) MelissaPetrol 4.5L GU Patrol &
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Reply By: Truckster (Vic) - Monday, Dec 08, 2003 at 10:01

Monday, Dec 08, 2003 at 10:01
Borrow a real dashpod off someone and copy it....

Mine has no velcro holding it on, there are mount holes in the dash that it uses, something Mr Nissan was kind enough to put there, none on the GU??
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Reply By: Member - Peter (WA) - Monday, Dec 08, 2003 at 10:38

Monday, Dec 08, 2003 at 10:38
If you have a dash mat you will find that the hook part of the velcro will grip on that so use the hook part on the dash pod , rather than use the sticky sided one get some that they use for sewing and stick this to the pod with carpet glue it will last a lot longer and is stronger , you just have to make the dash mat fairly secure , This is not my car anymore
Peter York 4x4
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Reply By: Outnabout David (SA) - Monday, Dec 08, 2003 at 11:59

Monday, Dec 08, 2003 at 11:59
Melissa,

I had one on my Prado. The Pod was screwed to a metal bracket, 1 either end and the metal bracket was velcro'd to the dash. You must make sure the dash is clean otherwise you will be in trouble. It lasted fairly well but when I changed vehicles I used wider velcro and also put a strip over the front edge. On the back I just made sure there was a wedge of high density foam to wedge it against the windscreen. This was all covered with a custom made dash mat. Worked fine with several vehicles but on my new one I have not opted for a pod as to me the dash vibrates too much on corrogations and in the long run may cause damage to the radio's. I have opted for a remote head UHF which is easier to locate. If the link works there are instructions on how to fit the pod using the method I had
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Follow Up By: Member - Melissa - Monday, Dec 08, 2003 at 12:11

Monday, Dec 08, 2003 at 12:11
Thanks David,

Just the kind of feedback I was after. Initially we were considering a centre roof console then shifted towards the dashpod idea. If you had a choice, what would your preference be?

:o) Melissa Petrol 4.5L GU Patrol &
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Follow Up By: Outnabout David (SA) - Monday, Dec 08, 2003 at 15:11

Monday, Dec 08, 2003 at 15:11
Melissa,

Given the choice I would go for a low profile roof mount as there is more
storeage space available and doesn't interfere with over the bonnet vision. Also you can screw them into the roof header panel where there may be a light/mirror currently mounted and then fix the rear in the roof bow where the centre dome lamp is.

Also I believe there is less vibration than on the dash and if you have an external or re-radiating antenna your GPS is not qite as visible than sitting on the dash.We have so little time to enjoy our land
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Reply By: Mark from Getaway Portable Refrigerator Hire - Monday, Dec 08, 2003 at 19:40

Monday, Dec 08, 2003 at 19:40
Hi Melissa, Could be worth making a template out of cardboard and once you like what has been achieved, get the saw out and knock it out in timber. You are probably better at wood work than me (which would not be difficult) but I find it saves changing the design half way through.

Regards

Mark
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Reply By: awill4x4 - Monday, Dec 08, 2003 at 23:22

Monday, Dec 08, 2003 at 23:22
Melissa, when you are ready to mark off your patterns, be they cardboard, wood etc. A very useful tool which I use regularly at work to follow shapes is a contour gauge. Essentially it is 150mm rule approx 10mm - 12mm thick which has hundreds of needles (not sharp) running through it. These needles individually slide up and down to follow the shape of whatever it is you wish to build.
They are usually available from good tool stores and are usually less than $10.
Regards Andrew.
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Follow Up By: Member - Melissa - Tuesday, Dec 09, 2003 at 12:20

Tuesday, Dec 09, 2003 at 12:20
Excellent idea Andrew! Have seen these gauges before but it took your post to jog my memory. I had been looking at the contours of the dash rather dubiously wondering how to achieve a good fit without major stuffing around fitting, adjusting and refitting.

:o) MelissaPetrol 4.5L GU Patrol &
Camprite TL8 offroad camper
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