Cub Drifter 1980 hubs wheel... bigger wheels?
Submitted: Saturday, Nov 19, 2011 at 19:43
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Justahobby
Hi,
I have a cub Drifter 6. it has old welso hydraulic brakes with 4 stud 10 inch rims on it. I am wondering if anyone knows where i can get parts for them to service them and what the stud pattern in. Maybe i can get 13"s for it.
My other thought is to throw that away and buy a whole new setup. hydraulic
disc brakes. Can get a full kit (new coupling, hubs, callipers and new hydraulic lines all galvanised) for $500. My only worry is will i get 14inch rims and tyres on and off on the cub, Because of how they go up inside the camper. Don't want to buy the kit and not be able to fit the
wheels on.
Any thoughts or anyone that has a old cub camper that has but bigger
wheels on it? your comments would be much appreciated.
Cheers Sean
Reply By: rumpig - Saturday, Nov 19, 2011 at 20:01
Saturday, Nov 19, 2011 at 20:01
not sure how these things are built, can you maybe do a spring over conversion on it at the time of fitting the new hubs to give abit more height and clearance to the camper?
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Reply By: Ozhumvee - Saturday, Nov 19, 2011 at 20:29
Saturday, Nov 19, 2011 at 20:29
We had an early Cub Campomatic set up with the same
wheels and tyres, no brakes though.
The
wheels on ours were 10" mini
wheels on four studs, wore like buggery on outback trips and were next to impossible to get tyres for away from the big smoke.
The only larger
wheels that will fit the same stud pattern are 13" mini moke
wheels which are as rare as rocking horse poo.
The bearings are standard early holden so the easiest way to larger rims is to fit holden hubs and then you can run a wide variety of tyre sizes.
We initially went to 13" rims and the tyres are just as hard to source as the 10" ones in outback areas so then fitted 14" holden rims which means then you can run 14" light truck (LT) steel radials which are tougher than many 4wd tyres.
We also did a spring over to get the required mudguard clearance so just carried a bag of wooden blocks to level the camper.
In your case with the brakes the easiest way would be to change the whole axle and brake setup to enable the fitting of bigger
wheels.
Forget about fitting 15 or 16 " size rims as huge changes are required to the camper to get them to fit and the camper will not be strong enough to handle the unsprung weight of the big
wheels and tyres.
14" with the LT tyres will prove to pretty much ideal on a light trailer.
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Reply By: Justahobby- Saturday, Nov 19, 2011 at 22:37
Saturday, Nov 19, 2011 at 22:37
Thanx for the replies thus far.
Ozhumvee now that your running the 14s with the spring over is there much clearance inside the guards, do they ever scrub? Are they easy to get on and off?
Also do you no the tyre size.
I have been thinking about putting mid 90's 5 stud hilux rims on it 185 14 LT.
They fit onto ford stud pattern. There as heaps and heaps of them about as they are the same for hiluxs and hiace. Generally speaking if you buy a hilux rim from a wreckers it will have a light truck tyre on it and can usually fish around for a good tyre that was a spare. Hopefully there will be heaps of them out in the outback.
But looking at it, it just doesn't look it will fit. the wheel atm dont look like they are in the center of the wheel arches.
Any more help or pictures of yours would be a great help.
Cheers mate.
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Follow Up By: Ozhumvee - Sunday, Nov 20, 2011 at 07:05
Sunday, Nov 20, 2011 at 07:05
I actually changed the axle to a solid one at the same time so could specify the length to get the
wheels in the right place. Whatever you do fit make sure it is an off the shelf item rather than made specifically as replacement is then far easier if required. Also fit shocks, Torana front ones are short and can be mounted on 1/2" bolts top and bottom.
Also spaced the spring mounts down off the chassis 50mm to give a bit more clearance.
Ours being a hard floor the roofrack sits on the ground supporting the floor hence the need for timber blocks to allow it to sit on the ground after it was lifted.The LT tyres we use are 185 or 195 x 14 so the hilux ones will be ok. I think you will find that 195 is a better size both in size and availabliity.
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Follow Up By: Justahobby- Wednesday, Dec 07, 2011 at 14:42
Wednesday, Dec 07, 2011 at 14:42
Hi mate,
were the holden rims you put on early holden or comodore?
Cheers sean
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Follow Up By: Ozhumvee - Thursday, Dec 08, 2011 at 06:30
Thursday, Dec 08, 2011 at 06:30
I fitted early holden but in your case commodore would be better as bits are cheaper and more freely available these days. I did ours in 1988 ;-))
I di mention that I did a 100mm body lift didn't I? that provided the clearance for the bigger
wheels and tyres, we just carry a bag of 100mm square treated pine blocks to put under the legs when setting up.
the 100mm lift actually makes it esier when setting up on sloping and uneven ground as the "high side/end can sit on the ground directly ad the other side/end can be chocked.
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