Plans to shut down freebies in Tassie

Hi The Landy Replied
You are shooting from the lip Landy
Consider yes some has to pay the RV tourist has to pay double when they go to Tasmania
The average spend on the mainland for RV tourist is $77 - $80 per vehicle per day in Tasmania The OTER has advised that the RV tourist spend is$178 per day per vehicle So if they want RV tourist they might have to have a cut in the hip pocket.
Landy please read the whole paper noit just scan it and see how they want councils to police it
Also want Councils to spend lots of money when there is no person camping they want 24/7 patrols to fine the Rv tourist
Terry

Snailbait, does the figure of $178 include the cost of the Bass Straight ferry?
Kevin

HI kEVEN
OTTER in the govt paper advised that the money was spent in Tasmania by over 17 days if they had to spend $3000.00 on the ferry it would be twice that
Terry

Hi Snailbait. What are you taking to Tasmania? A B double? I have just done a costing on the web site and I can take my Jackaroo and 17ft Coromal pop top, with cabin accommodation for my wife and self, in mid January for less than $1400. I think you will find that the figure quoted includes tourists who fly in and hire an RV. It is a very broad average and as such is worthless. Tasmania is an expensive destination, as is almost anywhere where several hundred kilometres of water has to be crossed to get there.

Kevin, $1400...... is that return or one way??????

Check the fine print.

Fred.

Whether it's return or one-way, it's bloody outrageous and yet another reason not to visit the place. It's where Bob Brown comes from.
Cheers, Tony

Now I know why we will be flying to Tasie if we visit, sounds cheaper to hire a car and stay in B&B's

Fred G, that's return. I don't want to go there to live.

Isuzumu, it depends how long you want to go for. Many people who go for 2 months say it's not long enough to see it properly. Spread the cost even over a month is less than $50 per day. You won't get much of a hire car and a night in a B&B for that. Have you checked Tasmania B&B prices?

Kevin

Snailbait

I think I’ve taken quite a reasoned approach here, and in many of the other posts on the subject.

I have read this document fully, and well versed on the topic given a much wider reading on the issues. Rational debate will go a long way to resolving the issue, but starting points like the proposition you put forward is why the broader debate doesn’t advance to the detriment of all travellers!

Kevin S - 2 months?? I live here and I'd be lucky if I could spend a week sight seeing. The reason people probably say you needs that long is because the weather is so horrible you have to wait weeks just to get a good enough day to want to get out of bed and explore.
I don't see the appeal in coming here at all. It's expensive, the weather is Sh*t, the water is like ice and its basically becoming a dead end place.

Alright, so perhaps I am a bit grumpy and feeling a little 'grass is greener' envy at the moment, but the skies are grey, its cold and I am frantically searching for ways to escape this 'Retirement Island' - I am mid-twenties I want out.... but what is the main reason Tasmania has a population? our parents moved us here to a place that traps you and instils a fear of the big wide world so we become to scared to ever actually leave....

Yours truly,
Frustrated and Hating on Tas!

Hi Angie M. It's not the weather, it's because you live on an island. Most people who live on an island want to get off. It is an instinct that particularly applies in New Zealand. So much so that it is an issue in today's election.

You might be right about the weather increasing the length of people's visit to Tassie but the official average is 17 days for people on an RV holiday. It's an average so some will be there for longer and some for shorter periods.

Give Queensland a try. In Brisbane we have gone through most of November with no rain at all. But I will admit that we had a fair bit earlier in the year.

Cheers. Kevin

Angie, I couldn't agree more.
We just spent 5 weeks in Tasmania, which seemed like an eternity.
It appears as the Greenies have complete control, it is hard to find decent camp spots, as most of the tracks on the West Coast either have gates, huge logs or boulders blocking them. All they want you to do is go from caravan park to caravan park.
Couldn't get back to the mainland quick enough.

hI ALL
Did any one see the 730 report Tamania for last friday
I will try to put up on the post
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2011-11-28/the-cost-of-free-camping/3698976?section=tas
I hope it works
The submission i did for our caravan club
Keep sending the emailS
Terry

I think the 7.30 report was balanced to the extent it gave good air-time to the various interests to put forward their concerns and issues without a bias to the reporting.

I did note one lady who was interviewed separately was advancing an argument that went along the lines of free camping allows pensioners to go out in enjoy themselves, and I have no issue about anyone getting out and enjoying what Australia has to offer...

But let’s not kid ourselves, recreational travel is expensive, the cost of the rig and tow vehicle in a caravan set-up; the increasing cost of motor-homes and all their appointments; fuel costs, it all adds up. Why should there be an expectation for free or subsidised accomodation costs, noting that in many cases it is to the detriment of the short-term accommodation providers that already exist in these communities? I don’t think those comments advance the cause of those calling for a continuation of ‘free camping’. We all need to live and spend within our own means without being reliant on hand-outs to pursue individual interests.

I have said it many times before, and recently added a blog to this website (Free Camping - What is the Real Cost?), hopefully to encourage sensible debate on this very topic, and advancing the viewpoint that ‘free camping’ will eventually come at the expense of private sector investment in tourism infrastructure. This will affect all of us, and I think it is important to remember that whilst there are those that look for free camping or subsidised camping areas, many caravan and motor-home owners don’t and rely on caravan park infrastructure for somewhere to stay when travelling.

Perhaps the industry manufacturing caravans and motor-homes has a role to play in the solution, after all diminishing infrastructure will have an impact on this currently booming industry that has sold retirees, among others, of a carefree life on the road... The reality is something quite different, especially given the increasing appeal of recreational travel in Australia.

hi all
Here a copy of a submission from the Fifth wheelers net work
http://www.stopalot.net/uploads/FWNTasmaniaDirectionsPaperSubmission.pdf
I hope this works
Terry