When to fuel up?
Submitted: Thursday, Dec 01, 2011 at 20:13
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mikehzz
I was wondering what people's ideas were on the best time to stock up on spare fuel for a long trip like the Canning. Is it better to buy the fuel cheaper in a major centre and lug it all the way to the start of the trek? Or is it better to carry mostly empty jerries to a town close to the start and fill up at the dearer price? Interested to hear people's pro's and cons.
Mine is a diesel vehicle if that has a bearing. Cheers, Mike
Reply By: Member - Josh- Thursday, Dec 01, 2011 at 22:41
Thursday, Dec 01, 2011 at 22:41
We usually just filled up as we went. Ionce in the remote areas we carried enough fuel to get to 2 fuel stops. That is, if the next stop was out of fuel or there was a problem we had enough to get to the next spot. We always tried to support the smaller
places when we could. If they are there cause everyone carries fuel in then they aren't there to help when things go wrong. Paying higher price or carrying extra weight, Mmmmmm, don't think there is much difference except in the pocket of the local guy. Just my thoughts
Josh
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Reply By: Alan S (WA) - Thursday, Dec 01, 2011 at 22:46
Thursday, Dec 01, 2011 at 22:46
mike
I went through this dilema last year and it really depends on a lot fo factors.
Can yoy carry safely the extra fuel, if you have to put it on top you need to consider the drag.
In my case I could carry 5 jerry's in the trailer and based on a price difference of approx 25c between
perth and
broome I reckoned it was cheaper to lug it from
perth.
But, i got a $25 only saving, so was it really worth it? In th ebig picture of travelling that far, the savings are neglible.
Alan
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Reply By: Member - Ian G (NSW) - Thursday, Dec 01, 2011 at 23:56
Thursday, Dec 01, 2011 at 23:56
We agree with Josh.
After 11 years on the road, we always support the local fuel suppliers along the way. One day you may really be in need of them and they may not be there because of everyone carrying jerry cans from afar. By all means have at least 1 jerry for emergencies, but in this day & age with the Next G coverage and a bit of forward thinking, you can call ahead to a destination to check if they will have fuel in a few days time. We do this in remote locations where we think fuel could be a problem. We have never encountered a place without fuel, but have been to some
places where if they are running short, they limit everyone to enough litres to get you to the next place.
Carrying all that extra weight and the inconvenience of lots of jerry cans to check on, quickly negates the price saving at the commencement of your trip.
We also have the same view on food. To carry excess food is also not necessary. You can get provisions all over Australia - even though it may be frozen. The first year we carried lots of cryovaced meat and far too many cans, but never again. We also like to support everyone in that line of business around Australia. You come across some great butcher shops, bakeries etc along the way. Of course, you should always carry food for emergencies, but you certainly don't need 2 months worth on board.
cheers, nomads
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Follow Up By: Member - Josh- Friday, Dec 02, 2011 at 08:47
Friday, Dec 02, 2011 at 08:47
The other concern with carrying jerries is the moisture in them if not sealed properly, particulary in humid areas.
Josh
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Follow Up By: Member - Josh- Friday, Dec 02, 2011 at 08:50
Friday, Dec 02, 2011 at 08:50
Meant to say we also bought food in these areas and as you say there are some great bakeries and cafes around. We actually found one that sold meat pies with real meat lol. Yes it is dearer sometimes but support the bloke who supports the out back.
Josh
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Reply By: vk1dx - Friday, Dec 02, 2011 at 09:06
Friday, Dec 02, 2011 at 09:06
Mike
We bit the bullet and installed a duel diesel and
water long range
tank.
We looked at carrying fuel in jerry cans on the front on the back and on the roof. Inside was not in the equation and we do not tow anything. We found some interesting points about the legality of carrying fuel in jerry cans. Being illegal, if my investigations proved true meant that there was a chance that any insurance and even medical cover could be voided. That's not what we need if we have a prang. The approved and stamped
tank is legal and thus negated all these problems for us.
To the other part of your question; we don not fill up in every town now. But we do try to skip them at $2.25+ a litre.
Just and idea.
Phil
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Follow Up By: Bigfish - Friday, Dec 02, 2011 at 15:25
Friday, Dec 02, 2011 at 15:25
Often see the southern tourists(and some locals) carrying 20 litre jerry cans 9(OF FUEL)on their roof racks. To my way of thinking this is just plain stupidity.
Does anyone know the legalities?
CHEERS
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Follow Up By: vk1dx - Friday, Dec 02, 2011 at 15:42
Friday, Dec 02, 2011 at 15:42
Do not quote me on this but I believe that it can all be boiled down to the regulations covering the carriage of dangerous (or the like) goods. If the location means the container, not just jerry cans, is not protected during an accident then it can be said to be an illegal place. I know this is stretching it but on the roof can be dangerous IF the car rolls. And they do roll. We all know that. On the rear bumper; they can be hit from behind.
In an enclosed and ventilated metal box on the A-frame of a trailer is okay because the container is "protected". On the A-frame without a box, just a frame to hole it there, it is illegal. No protection of the jerry can.
That I think is the basis of it all. But I am not a lawyer and I have not read the rules referring specifically to jerry cans. And I don't car what they say. We were primarily interested in our safety.
We just looked at each location and thought "What if . . ". Was there a possibility, no matter how remote, of being a
hazard for the occupants of our car. We were not happy about any of the solutions. Thus no jerry cans for us.
Phil
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Follow Up By: John&Jones - Saturday, Dec 03, 2011 at 16:29
Saturday, Dec 03, 2011 at 16:29
We are planning a trip around Oz next year.Where did diesel cost 2.25????? We may have to avoid that spot.
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Follow Up By: KevinE - Sunday, Dec 04, 2011 at 10:29
Sunday, Dec 04, 2011 at 10:29
Renner Springs NT, Mt. Barnett WA ;-) (Ice was $10.50 a bag at Mt. Barnett too)
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Follow Up By: vk1dx - Sunday, Dec 04, 2011 at 18:08
Sunday, Dec 04, 2011 at 18:08
Don't avoid them.
We got fuel at
Tibooburra, a little at
Innamincka and filled up at
Birdsville. Now with the big
tank we can avoid both of them.
I don't mind helping out but that was ridiculous. Especially as we spent quite a few quid in the "Corner" bar.
I would never pay that for ice. Thats why we purchases a second fridge as a freezer.
Phil
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Follow Up By: Member - Captain (WA) - Sunday, Dec 04, 2011 at 19:57
Sunday, Dec 04, 2011 at 19:57
Try $2.50L for diesel at
Warburton in July this year. But unless you have several hundred litres its a bit hard to avoid! But in the big picture it was a minimal cost and definelty wouldn't have avoided it simply for the fuel cost.
Cheers
Captain
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Follow Up By: vk1dx - Sunday, Dec 04, 2011 at 21:09
Sunday, Dec 04, 2011 at 21:09
Hi Captain
True. It is not wise to bypass fuel in
the desert. But we still had 90 litres on board when we got to
Birdsville. I would call that safe. I will never forget being able to bypass a station on the Nullabore because we had kept the car "topped up". Their computers were down and they had a line-up a mile long. And to top that the tech would not get there for another five hours. We were safe to continue and you could tell a few others would have loved to follow.
We mainly got the extra large
tank so that we would never have to carry jerry cans. I find them damned dangerous. Everyone rants and raves about safety, securing their load in case of an accident, and then they put a time bomb jerry can on board. In my opinion I find that a bit hypocritical.
Also I want to drive the full CSR so the
tank is a must for that track. Hopefully before I . . .
So it is a balance. I don't run the tanks dry nor do I stop every town.
Phil
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Reply By: bob smith 1 - Friday, Dec 02, 2011 at 15:20
Friday, Dec 02, 2011 at 15:20
If like us and you carry your fuel in the vehicle filling up at the last place is best and obviously emptying asap but we are running ulp. When empty they go back up top.
Bob
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Reply By: mikehzz - Saturday, Dec 03, 2011 at 00:29
Saturday, Dec 03, 2011 at 00:29
Many thanks for the replies, plenty of food for thought there. I think I am leaning very much towards filling up close to the start of trek meaning carrying empty jerries. Happy travels....
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