Re - Rated Snatch Points

It hasn't happened to me or to anyone I know, but it has been suggested the pin may bend under extreme loading.

I've just done some sums and a 16mm pin spanning 50mm has a significant chance of bending under a 1.5 Tonne loading.

Play it safe and remove the tow ball and use the hole for a shackle. I know the shackle is arse about in this case but if you use a hd shackle you won't have a problem.Fidei defensor

Rosco

P.S.

With the coupling in place the load on the pin is shear. Safe shear capacity of 16mm pin in this instance is 3200 Kg for mild steel and 8000 Kg for grade 8.8Fidei defensor

Rosco

So these posts have raised the same question in my mind. I haven't had my troopie for long and unfortunately don't have the book. It's a 2000 model 78 series non-turbo.

At the front, below the bull bar, are two substantial looking loops which I had assumed were recovery points. There are also what appear to be the usual tie downs nearby. Am I correct in assuming these larger loops are recovery points - as we all know what "assume" can do?

Maybe I should drop into a dealer?

Any responses welcome.

Cheers

Troopie

Not familar with your truck but they sound like recovery points .... I'd check first though.Fidei defensor

Rosco

Hi Troopie
The two forward loops are the tie down points, they are also removed when ARB bull bar is fitted.
The two to the rear which are thinner plate I understand are actually able to be used to tow with but not for snatching.
The other problem with these two are they above the botom line of the bull bar, which means the tow or if you snatched the snach strap would be impeded by the bottom of the bull bar.

The vehicle requires a rated manufactured/engineerd mounting system to bring any fitted hook below the bottom of the bull bar for a straight unimpeded pull.

I am also concerned about snatching on the tow bar by the pin method or any other attachment point, due to possible shock damage to the tow bar and then any possible problem of tow bar failure during normal towing.
Hayman Reece and Toyota do not rate their tow bars for this type of work, I have a 3500 kg rated tow bar a snatch strap can apply a lot more than this in load.
I have an ARB Bull bar with a Warne winch.
I do not think this problem is confined just to Troopies few other 4wd's seem to have rated points fitted.

As I said it is a real problem.

Regards
John

Many Thanks John
Me-thinks there are a large number of people out there with the same mis-conceptions about the recovery points on the front of their vehicles....

Anyhow, I'm going to have a wander into a Toyota dealer - probably followed by a trip to a 4wd-shop I guess....

Thanks once again....

Cheers

12000 kg .... 12 Tonnes, methinks thats a tad adventurous.

Say 2.5 Tonne + perhaps maybe even if we cheat a little... an extra 2 Tonne for suction and boggage etc ....... ????Fidei defensor

Rosco