NSW South Coast Road Test

Submitted: Tuesday, Dec 27, 2011 at 22:15
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Just after opinions on the best and worst roads to tow a 2.7t van from the Riverina to the South Coast NSW. Will be returning back over the range to the Riverina as well.
1. Clyde Mountain
2. Brown Mountain
3. Monaro Hway through Bombala to Cann River (Vic).
We are planning a trip in late Jan to East Gippsland via the South Coast.
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Ian
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Reply By: SDG - Tuesday, Dec 27, 2011 at 23:13

Tuesday, Dec 27, 2011 at 23:13
Coming from Wagga Wagga I have found The Clyde to be better than the Brown. If travelling by the Brown from here you are also going over Kosiosko.

Both mountains are fairly similar. I do miss the last steep bit that use to be the Clyde as your coming into Batemans Bay.

Clyde is also the better choice for coming back, but again, fairly similar.

Clyde is longer to travel either way than the Brown. (The steep bit themselves)


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Follow Up By: Member - iijmartin - Wednesday, Dec 28, 2011 at 18:00

Wednesday, Dec 28, 2011 at 18:00
Thanks SDG for the info. The Clyde probably suits us better to visit our places of interest on the Sth Coast.
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Reply By: Nomadic Navara - Tuesday, Dec 27, 2011 at 23:16

Tuesday, Dec 27, 2011 at 23:16
The Clyde and Brown are about the same gradients, both have 1 in 8 sections. The Monaro is more gentle. However you should have no problems on any of those. I have a couple of friends in Canberra who both use those roads regularly. They tow 23' Future Systems vans weighing 26 - 2700 kg (loaded) with their Pathfinders (which you know have the same motor and mechanicals.)

Just remember to use as low a gear as possible to descend any of those hills and your trip will be a breeze.

How far are you going down into Gippsland? If you are going past Orbost you may consider returning via the Great Alpine Road. The gradients are similar. You may hear people say that road is not suitable for trailers. However that only applied before they widened and sealed the road.

My van weighs in at 2,000 kg, I have towed it over all those roads with either my D40 or Disco TD5 (similar performance) with absolutely no problems. Granted you will be very slow on some of the gradients but it will be the bends rather than the gradients slowing you down.

Take things easy and you will enjoy your trip. When you have driven those roads you will be fully qualified for every sealed highway in Oz.


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Follow Up By: Member - iijmartin - Wednesday, Dec 28, 2011 at 18:14

Wednesday, Dec 28, 2011 at 18:14
Thanks Peter,
It has been 20 yrs since I've been down Brown Mt and 6 yrs since I have ventured down the Clyde. Neither with this new van, of course.
Would you think that these 1 in 8 gradient sections would be 2nd gear in the D40 5 spd auto towing?
I have never been on the Great Alpine Rd. I always thought that the road was very tight and twisty - great for motor cyclists but not for vanners?
Thanks for your info.
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Reply By: Member - John and Val - Wednesday, Dec 28, 2011 at 11:59

Wednesday, Dec 28, 2011 at 11:59
Hi Ian,

By far the easiest grades would be on the Imlay Road which links Bombala to the coast. It turns east from the Cann River road about 25-30km south of Bombala and joins the Princes Highway near the turnoff to Wonboyn Lake. Its a sealed road that was built for logging trucks and is an easy run.

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Follow Up By: Member - Kevin S (QLD) - Wednesday, Dec 28, 2011 at 12:52

Wednesday, Dec 28, 2011 at 12:52
Hi Val. Is that the road that comes out at South Pambula? The Hema map shows it with a lot of "wiggles". Is it suitable for a rig of that size?
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Follow Up By: Member - Kevin S (QLD) - Wednesday, Dec 28, 2011 at 13:07

Wednesday, Dec 28, 2011 at 13:07
What a silly question from a boy who grew up with bullock teams being yoked a few hundred meters from the house and who made articulated toy log trucks from any available timber. If log trucks get around the bends it will be a breeze for even big rigs - unless a log truck is coming the other way on a sharp bend. I have just looked at the road on Google Earth and it looks really good.
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Follow Up By: Member - John and Val - Wednesday, Dec 28, 2011 at 13:12

Wednesday, Dec 28, 2011 at 13:12
Hi Kevin,

No its not that road which goes through Wyndham and Cathcart and is unsealed at least in the western section, and as you say has a fair few "wiggles". Its a good drive but not for big vans!

On some maps the Imlay Road is called Falkner Road. It shows up well on Google Earth where the western end is called Nungatta Road.

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Follow Up By: Member - Kevin S (QLD) - Wednesday, Dec 28, 2011 at 14:33

Wednesday, Dec 28, 2011 at 14:33
Thanks Val. Got it. I was looking for a road out of Bombala but the turn is down towards the border. I have driven past the eastern end of the road at Narrabarba dozens of times and wondered where it went. But I wonder that about most unfamiliar roads
Thanks for clarifying.
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Follow Up By: Member - iijmartin - Wednesday, Dec 28, 2011 at 18:34

Wednesday, Dec 28, 2011 at 18:34
Thanks John and Val,
We may chose to go down through Bombala to Cann River and on to Lakes Entrance etc and then travel up the South Coast and back home via the Clyde.
How is the Vic end of the Monaro hway to Cann River?
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Reply By: Member - Terra'Mer - Wednesday, Dec 28, 2011 at 20:15

Wednesday, Dec 28, 2011 at 20:15
You have 2 very easy road option down to the coast from Bombala that will give you no grief towing. Take the Imlay Rd just south of Bombala towards Eden or the highway down to Cann River. Clyde and Brown can be a bit steep with hair pins and few overtaking or pullover opportunities.

I wouldn't suggest trying the Mt Darragh Rd, it is potholed and landslides, fallen trees are common if there has been bad weather.
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Follow Up By: Member - Terra'Mer - Wednesday, Dec 28, 2011 at 20:23

Wednesday, Dec 28, 2011 at 20:23
The Mt Darragh Rd mentioned above is the one mentioned earlier in another post that comes out at Sth Pambula and goes thru Wyndham and Cathcart and is sealed all the way, unless you want to take the turn off from/to Bibbenluke, but poorly maintained by both Bombala and Sapphire Coast Shires. I have seen plenty of caravans, 5th wheelers and motor homes on it but they struggle sometimes.
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Follow Up By: Member - iijmartin - Wednesday, Dec 28, 2011 at 20:53

Wednesday, Dec 28, 2011 at 20:53
Thanks for the explanation, Terra'Mer.
I have not travelled on any of the roads off the Monaro hway in that area.
Great info as we ride BMWs in another pastime.
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Follow Up By: Member - Terra'Mer - Wednesday, Dec 28, 2011 at 21:10

Wednesday, Dec 28, 2011 at 21:10
My Dad's a BMW tourer too. He has toured extensively through the Alps and is now exploring around Coffs, Port Mac, Newcastle and up into the hills with Mum riding pillion. Retirement gives them so much time to play, it's great! But getting back on subject, these roads are all part of the great South East NSW motorcycle touring circuit, especially around Moto GP time with hundreds of bikes travelling all these roads between the Monaro and the coast before and after Phillip Island. Even the Snowy Ride has been extended to include check points in Bombala and Nimmitabel ;)
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Follow Up By: Member - iijmartin - Thursday, Dec 29, 2011 at 08:07

Thursday, Dec 29, 2011 at 08:07
Terra,
Will have to get over that way on our bikes one weekend. Most of our riding is in the west side of the ranges and into Vic. Closest we've been to Monaro Hway is Cooma - travelling thru Khancoban and lunch at Thredbo Alpine Hotel. Use to work on the North Coast in the 80s but didn't have a bike then.
thanks for the info and all the best for 2012.
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Reply By: Patrol22 - Thursday, Dec 29, 2011 at 12:06

Thursday, Dec 29, 2011 at 12:06
Just be aware mate that there are a couple of sections of roadworks on the Clyde. I can't comment re the other routes as i haven't be there those routes for some time but I travel the Clyde weekly and it can be a bit of a PITA at times.
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