The patrol has just about broken me

Submitted: Thursday, Jan 12, 2012 at 22:26
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After 6 months of being in different workshops for a variety of problems I decided to try one of the dealers in Brisbane, asked if they could fix the instrument cluster ( gauges stop working after 15 min driving with the lights on) 2 problem with acceleration and a 200000km service thought that wasn't to much to ask.After six days with the car their answer was 1 think it is the control board 2 weeks from Japan and pay before we order it.2 not sure with the accelerator just drive it till it breaks and third they forgot to do the service.Think its time to change brand.
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Reply By: Member - Tezza Qld - Thursday, Jan 12, 2012 at 22:30

Thursday, Jan 12, 2012 at 22:30
Unbelievable.. They are a breed of their own.

Did't happen to be down Springwood way did it?

Hope it all works out

Cheers Teza
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Follow Up By: Member -Carl R (QLD) - Thursday, Jan 12, 2012 at 22:33

Thursday, Jan 12, 2012 at 22:33
No closer to town end of magic mile
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Follow Up By: Member - Tezza Qld - Thursday, Jan 12, 2012 at 22:40

Thursday, Jan 12, 2012 at 22:40

I think they are all related LOL
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Follow Up By: Member -Carl R (QLD) - Thursday, Jan 12, 2012 at 22:44

Thursday, Jan 12, 2012 at 22:44
The dealers in the Redland are the worst.
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Reply By: lancie49 - Thursday, Jan 12, 2012 at 23:25

Thursday, Jan 12, 2012 at 23:25
The PC Board on the cluster is probably repairable for about $100.
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Follow Up By: Member -Carl R (QLD) - Friday, Jan 13, 2012 at 06:25

Friday, Jan 13, 2012 at 06:25
$230 and 2 weeks from Japan ,went to get one second hand $195 plus freight think I'll go with a new one
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Reply By: Dust-Devil - Friday, Jan 13, 2012 at 01:44

Friday, Jan 13, 2012 at 01:44

Re the acceleration problem.

From memory the GU's have a 'fly by wire' accelerator setup - meaning its all electronic from the accelerator pedal to the throttle body on the engine. ie No Accelerator Cable.

The accelerator pedal operates a 'Pot' or potentiometer that tells the ECU what is required acceleration wise etc etc.

Sometime last year someone, somewhere mentioned in a conversation about a problem similar to yours and it ended up being a under $100 fix by Nissan installing a new on of the aforementioned 'Pot' thingies.


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Reply By: Life Member - Phil B (WA) - Friday, Jan 13, 2012 at 04:25

Friday, Jan 13, 2012 at 04:25
Hi Carl

Try a Patrol Forum - this problem may have come up before. Sorry I don't have a link, I drive another brand.
As for changing brands, these sorts of things happen regardless of brands - persevere a little longer.

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Reply By: Fatso - Friday, Jan 13, 2012 at 10:42

Friday, Jan 13, 2012 at 10:42
It's a car Carl & these things happen.
Most things wrong can be found by most mechanics. But some things are a little more tricky & may take a lot of perseverance to whittle out.
I have a Toyota Prius that has 660,000 k on the clock here at home. It's an old cab that I have pensioned off. It has performed nothing short of amazing for that distance. It has for the last 50,000 k had a warning light on in the dash. The mechanic I use is very good. As have been most other mechanics I have used. He has put god knows how many hours into finding this fault. They've downloaded dozens of pages of instructions on problem finding. They've changed exhaust sensors, inlet sensors, injectors, catalytic converter then the full exhaust system, fuel filters, even fuel lines & checked wiring circuits. You name it they've changed it. They've had the car to 2 other workshops to see if they could figure it out.
The only thing they can think of now & they think they have it, is the fuel pump pressure is on the upper limits of the prescribed range & they think it might spike occasionally.
They have been going on this problem for about 6 months. They had the car for 3 weeks before Xmas while we were away & will have it for 3 months when we go again soon.
But I am not complaining. I have a very good mechanic working on it who gives me a very good service.
Because I am a loyal customer who pays his bills before time I get this kind of service. Some don't.
The car has been, as I said, amazing.
I have replaced that car with the same model with confidence.
You might have to just persevere with your Patrol to get these problems fixed.
After 200,000 k you would normally expect something to go wrong.
You just have to pay & they will fix. That's how I get my cars to do 600,000 plus K. I pay, they fix.
The Prius amazed me when nothing failed until 307,000 k. But they are a truly exceptional vehicle.
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Follow Up By: Member -Carl R (QLD) - Friday, Jan 13, 2012 at 15:59

Friday, Jan 13, 2012 at 15:59
I'm not complaining about things going wrong with machinery ( I work on breakdowns all day )what gets up my nose is the lack of professionalism and service, the way the public get treated, car owners get treated as if they are stupid and know nothering about their car they drive every day.When you tell them what the symptoms are I get the feeling they are not listing.Just spent 3 weeks telling a diesel shop the fuel pump they put in was faulty and kept getting told the pump was ok guess what they found was they had forgotten a part.
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Reply By: Gossy - Friday, Jan 13, 2012 at 11:50

Friday, Jan 13, 2012 at 11:50
any modern 4wd will have it's quirks; especially around electronics. To be honest if your sick and tired of 'modern' problems maybe it's best to invest $ into an older vehicle (GQ, 80 etc) and spend the $ you have saved into making it comfortable (aftermarket seats etc). Pajero's, landcruisers etc will all have 'modern' issues.
Things still go wrong with the older cars but it usually involves stuff called metal rather than annoying little computer chips!

BTW, I'm a avid fan of the older cars and has spent $7K to keep my old car running rather (preventive maintenance rather than fix what was broken) than 'upgrade' to a newer vehicle. Best money I ever spent IMHO.
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Follow Up By: Member - Christopher P (NSW) - Saturday, Jan 14, 2012 at 15:30

Saturday, Jan 14, 2012 at 15:30
same with me... 82 hilux. but i have taken the best of all the hiluxs and thrown it into the old girl. power steering with one finger!!!! beat that
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Reply By: Member - nrb1748 (VIC) - Friday, Jan 13, 2012 at 13:33

Friday, Jan 13, 2012 at 13:33
Nissan Patrol's have a known problem with a dirty connection between the negative (earth) cable and the vehicle body. It can cause electrical problems possibly the ones you are experiencing. Thoroughly clean the battery terminals and the points where the negative lead is connected to the engine and body. A simple test is to connect a jumper lead from the negative battery terminal to the body and see if the faults are fixed. An extra 'earth' cable connecting the engine to the body and chassis is a good idea.

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Follow Up By: kiwicol - Friday, Jan 13, 2012 at 17:23

Friday, Jan 13, 2012 at 17:23
Hi nrb,

I have a 73 triumph stag, with lucas wireing and always had poor head lamps, went to a auto sparky and got one of the older guys who did what you suggested, he put a earth strap from the battery to the body, all my problems solved.

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Reply By: kev.h - Friday, Jan 13, 2012 at 18:40

Friday, Jan 13, 2012 at 18:40
I don't deal with my local Nissan Dealer - too tired to get off his backside thinks he has a captive market in a regional town - well not any more I have been getting great service from Gold Coast Nissan for 5/6 years and am willing to drive the extra distance to deal with them
One example
I was travelling to NSW for a wedding when i had problems in Armadale i rang them and explained the issue
1 - They gave the mechanic in Armadale (NRMA) a short term fix so i could continue
2 - They flew parts from Perth to Newcastle overnight
3 - Arranged with a dealer in Newcastle to install the part next morning so i could continue
4 - Charged no extra for the service
Maybe I was just lucky but I could not fault them
Maybe worth a call its not too far
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