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Submitted: Wednesday, Jan 18, 2012 at 11:17
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Is a Mercedes ML350 with independant rear suspension suitable to tow Caravan of 2300kg tare
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Reply By: Notso - Wednesday, Jan 18, 2012 at 11:39

Wednesday, Jan 18, 2012 at 11:39
Their specs say it can tow 3500kgs. You'd have to think that it would tow 2300 Plus OK
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Follow Up By: ozjohn0 - Thursday, Jan 19, 2012 at 11:15

Thursday, Jan 19, 2012 at 11:15
Des A.
The TARE is irrelevent as that's the unladen weight vof the van.
Its the loaded weight of the van that's imprortant.
The ATM is the maximum legal loaded weight including water etc.
With a Tare of 2300 the ATM will be at least 2700Kg.

If you wish to maintains a safe ball weight the ML350 will be unsuitable.
The ML350 tow capacity is 2260 with a max ball weight of 225Kg.
However the tow capicity can be increased to 3000Kg, but ball weight is reduced to a piddling 140Kg for tow weights in excess of 2260Kg.

Time for a rethink about a suitable tow vehicle.
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Ozjohn.
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Reply By: Des A - Wednesday, Jan 18, 2012 at 17:00

Wednesday, Jan 18, 2012 at 17:00
Is there any problem towing vans with Independant Rear Suspension 4WD's
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Follow Up By: ross - Wednesday, Jan 18, 2012 at 19:54

Wednesday, Jan 18, 2012 at 19:54
Those who tow with Falcons and Commodores are towing with IRS.Cant be too much of a problem if you stay within the max tow load and ball weight
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Follow Up By: garrycol - Thursday, Jan 19, 2012 at 09:41

Thursday, Jan 19, 2012 at 09:41
My Landrover has independent suspension and tows 3.5t no issues and has a 350kg tow ball weight.
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Reply By: Horacehighroller - Wednesday, Jan 18, 2012 at 18:52

Wednesday, Jan 18, 2012 at 18:52
Hi Des,
They have a monocoque body and if my memory serves me correctly their "ball weight" is relatively low.

I have seen an earlier version with the entire rear of the body obviously distorted downwards due (appasrently) to excess towball weight.

Check the vehicles specs.

Peter
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Follow Up By: Eric Experience - Wednesday, Jan 18, 2012 at 21:35

Wednesday, Jan 18, 2012 at 21:35
Des
The ML has a very strong chassis and is a superb towing vehicle. The distorted body must have been in your dreams. Eric
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Follow Up By: ross - Wednesday, Jan 18, 2012 at 21:56

Wednesday, Jan 18, 2012 at 21:56
The ML350 does indeed have a moncoque body according to the specs,I assume you understand the terminology.
I dont doubt its towing prowess if used within specs,but thats the same with everything.
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Follow Up By: gbc - Thursday, Jan 19, 2012 at 06:20

Thursday, Jan 19, 2012 at 06:20
I'm guessing you're talking the original ml series. Yes, they had a woeful reputation for bending, backs dropping off, tow racks falling out on the road etc. Daimler Chrysler had a little punch up with an aust tow bar manufacturer over it and lost.
Looks like they've worked out how to attach a load to a monocoque finally.
I wonder have they worked out how to keep IRS aligned as it goes up and down over the bumps yet? Going to cost a packet in tyres towing a van with one I'd guess.
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Follow Up By: ozjohn0 - Thursday, Jan 19, 2012 at 11:47

Thursday, Jan 19, 2012 at 11:47
The ML350 tow capacity is 2260 with a max ball weight of 225Kg.
However the tow capicity can be increased to 3000Kg, but ball weight is reduced to a piddling 140Kg for tow weights in excess of 2260Kg.

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Follow Up By: Eric Experience - Thursday, Jan 19, 2012 at 21:30

Thursday, Jan 19, 2012 at 21:30
Gentlemen.
I have owned 5 Mercs and I do understand the chassis / monocoque thing. The ML definitely has a chassis and has never given a moments trouble. I use the MLs around the property to pull down trees and de bog tractors with no hint of body distortion. Eric.
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Reply By: Discotwinturbo - Wednesday, Jan 18, 2012 at 22:23

Wednesday, Jan 18, 2012 at 22:23
Our touareg with monocoque chassis has 3500 tonne tow weight and 350 down weight.
Been doing this for 3 1/2 years towing at maximum weight (7 metre triple axe horse float) on some of wa's crappy roads with no problems. I use a wdh and contrary to early stories going around about pajeros twisting (hard to believe) our doors close nicely and car has not been effected in anyway. Just as smooth as the day it left the show room.
I think you will be fine if you stick within the specs.
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Reply By: Des A - Thursday, Jan 19, 2012 at 19:52

Thursday, Jan 19, 2012 at 19:52
Many thanks Guy's for all yopur info. It has been a great help against salesmens adbvice when buy a demo SUV. thanks again Des
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