Insulation thickness ?

Ok , who knows the actual insulation 'thickness' of an Engle 57lt Combi fridge / freezer , would expect it is the same as in their 60lt models ,,, have looked and cannot find any reference to how thick Engle's insulation actually is on any model ,,, Trailmaster ,Primus ,Bushmaster and all the rest with the exception of Waeco give the insulation thickness in their spec's ,,,, What is it for an Engle ?
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Reply By: Ross M - Thursday, Jan 19, 2012 at 14:43

Thursday, Jan 19, 2012 at 14:43
It is very hard to compare fridges on the thickness of the insul.
It all depends on how good the insulating properties are with the insul they use.
I use a 40lt engle as fridge and a 35l waeco as freezer.
I supply fresh air to both with a flex pipe and computer fan from window vent and also put towels/ sleeping bags/ blanket over both units to keep the radiant heat away from them when not used through the day. I make sure they don't obstruct the fridge vents.
You might end up buying on insul thickness but not have the fridge which best suits you. Consider all relevant factors.
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Follow Up By: Alloy c/t - Thursday, Jan 19, 2012 at 18:21

Thursday, Jan 19, 2012 at 18:21
Who said anything about comparing fridges by the thickness of the insulation ? All I asked was 'what the thickness of the insulation is in the 57/60lt Engle's' as nearly all bar Waeco and Engle have in their spec sheets thickness and type of insulation used '..
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Follow Up By: ross - Friday, Jan 20, 2012 at 02:39

Friday, Jan 20, 2012 at 02:39
"Who said anything about comparing fridges by the thickness of the insulation ?"

You did,because you have already said that you have looked at all the insulation specs on other fridges.
Certainly looked like a comparison to me .
If you dont like the answer ,be more specific.

You might aso get more results on Google if you spell Engel correctly.
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Follow Up By: Alloy c/t - Friday, Jan 20, 2012 at 09:48

Friday, Jan 20, 2012 at 09:48
Ross if you can't answer a simple question don't try to change the implication of the question , The question is and was " What is the thickness of the insulation of a 57/60lt Engel?" Nothing else ! No whats 'better ' ,No comparing Waeco /Engel/Evercool etc or biased opinions , just a simple question that requires a short simple answer , one that you obviously don't have the answer to!
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Follow Up By: ross - Friday, Jan 20, 2012 at 10:50

Friday, Jan 20, 2012 at 10:50
You could at least thank me for showing you how to spell "Engel" correctly. Humph!
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Follow Up By: Ross M - Friday, Jan 20, 2012 at 14:35

Friday, Jan 20, 2012 at 14:35
Don't worry about the insulation thickness. You can't alter it.
I gave examples as to how you can improve the performance of the fridge irrespective of the thickness, because it is the performance which is what you need to know, not how thick the insulation is.

I focus on the realities of the problem.
In house fridges the thickness is far less than older models but the insulation performance is far better.

So the thickness is totally irrelevant, it is about what it does for you.
The question to ask here is: What type of insulation is used and what is its thermal coefficient.

The ENGEL fridges have what is called a "swing" motor. If you are comparing fridges then this swing feature is called something it is not. The motor, so called, is an oscillating motor, nothing swing about it at all. It is basically a solenoid which flicks back and forwards by electronic command, same as a solenoid. This drives a piston which pumps gas.

Ross M
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Follow Up By: Alloy c/t - Friday, Jan 20, 2012 at 17:00

Friday, Jan 20, 2012 at 17:00
Ross , what part of the English language are you having trouble with ,the question is and was "how thick is the insulation?" ,,,NOT interested in the thermal properties ,NOT interested in changing the insulation , NOT interested in advances of insulation ,NOT interested in comparisons brand to brand ,NOT interested that Engel use the swing motor and have for over 50 years , Not interested that Waeco uses the Danfoss compressor , THE ONLY ANSWER I AM AFTER IS THE ANSWER TO THE QUESTION "how thick is the insulation in a 57/60lt Engel fridge/freezer?' NOTHING ELSE.
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Follow Up By: ross - Friday, Jan 20, 2012 at 18:43

Friday, Jan 20, 2012 at 18:43
Mate ,you should take a Bex and lie down before you blow your pooper valve
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Follow Up By: Best Off Road - Saturday, Jan 21, 2012 at 00:08

Saturday, Jan 21, 2012 at 00:08
Ross,

I've been around this forum since 2003. Alloy c/t has been around in a number of guises. He's also called himself "Undertaker" and "Axel the real one". Check the archives.

The kind of interaction you have had with him is typical. I'm not sure why he hasn't been banned.

Regards,

Jim Best.

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Follow Up By: Ross M - Saturday, Jan 21, 2012 at 13:12

Saturday, Jan 21, 2012 at 13:12
G'day, Jim.
There are sometimes vehicles with an alloy part broken and disabled on the side of the road but you just don't see them while checking the mirrors.

Thanks for the sit rep re poster/s.

Best Regards

Ross M
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Follow Up By: Shaker - Saturday, Jan 21, 2012 at 14:11

Saturday, Jan 21, 2012 at 14:11
Does anybody know? I am sure Engel would.











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Reply By: Geoff H (Q - Friday, Jan 20, 2012 at 15:01

Friday, Jan 20, 2012 at 15:01
Fair question alloy, I've read a few different camparisons on fidges and the fridges with better insulation are generally better.

The funny thing is that they all use different types of insulation which they claim is the best.

From personal experience the Trailblaza with 75mm of insulation holds it's temperature better than any other fridge, however you do pay for it.

Regards
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Follow Up By: Alloy c/t - Friday, Jan 20, 2012 at 17:10

Friday, Jan 20, 2012 at 17:10
Yes Geoff ,see that Trailblaza now have fridge/freezers out with 125mm insulation with a claim of 24% less power required to maintain temp over the 75mm at the same ambient temp ,,,,,, however the question is and was "how thick is the insulation of a 57/60lt Engel ?" ,,
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Reply By: Ross M - Friday, Jan 20, 2012 at 20:43

Friday, Jan 20, 2012 at 20:43
For someone to tell you the insulation thickness they will have to use a rule and measure theirs and tell you.
This is something you could have done when near a fridge store and therefore have no reason to ask in the first place.
What if we measured 1mm wrongly then you would have the wrong information.
All of us are just trying to help if you have trouble making up your mind about fridges and their use.
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Follow Up By: Alloy c/t - Saturday, Jan 21, 2012 at 10:09

Saturday, Jan 21, 2012 at 10:09
The question has absolutely nothing to do with making a decision on brand or use , as for me taking a measurement , the nearest Engel retailer is 450klm away , ,,,,, the question only requires a simple answer , not the waffle of this brand versus that brand , covering fridges ,putting in extra fans or anything else ,, one very simple measurement that seems to be beyond your capabillities ,,
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