New Prado Recovery Points

Submitted: Tuesday, Dec 16, 2003 at 12:01
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Can I use the Tie down points on the new Prado as recovery hooks?
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Reply By: Member - Ross - Tuesday, Dec 16, 2003 at 12:41

Tuesday, Dec 16, 2003 at 12:41
A simple answer .......... NO !!!!!!!

Unless you only want them to be in place for a little while.Fidei defensor

Rosco
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Reply By: Member - Bob - Tuesday, Dec 16, 2003 at 14:02

Tuesday, Dec 16, 2003 at 14:02
craignjanet,

you can buy recovery hook kits from 4 WD stores for about $20 (the Prado will only need them up front ;-)Bob
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Follow Up By: craignjanet - Tuesday, Dec 16, 2003 at 14:16

Tuesday, Dec 16, 2003 at 14:16
Hi Bob

I am fairly new to this so apologies for the stupid question but I assume I can just bolt them on. Why only on the front? On the few trips I have been on I have never had to be pulled out, a few other well known brands of 4wd vehicles on the sand behind me were in a bit of trouble

Craig
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Follow Up By: Member - Bob - Tuesday, Dec 16, 2003 at 14:45

Tuesday, Dec 16, 2003 at 14:45
Craig,

there are holes through the chassis where the high tensile steel bolts of the kit pass through. The kits come in different sizes to match the chassis holes. These are the holes that also hold the roo bar when fitted. The remark about front only was tongue in cheek and implied that the Prado would only ever need to be pulled out, rather than vice versa. A bit of friendly jibing between various brands has been known to occur on this forum.Bob
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Follow Up By: craignjanet - Tuesday, Dec 16, 2003 at 16:33

Tuesday, Dec 16, 2003 at 16:33
Bob

I figured out the tongue in cheek bit. it just seems odd that a man with a picture of a Lexus on his signature would have a go at a Prado. Same stable I thought?

Craig
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Reply By: Mark from Getaway Portable Refrigerator Hire - Tuesday, Dec 16, 2003 at 14:31

Tuesday, Dec 16, 2003 at 14:31
Craig, you will need to attach them to the chasis of the vehicle unless you have a ARB style of Steel Bar that has recovery points on it. The attachment point/s must be able to hold the weight of the vehicle multiplied by X factor which if you can picture a recovery you will appreciate the force that is applied (it is imense).
As far as the rear is concerned, do you have a hayman reece hitch?
Never, Never use the towball as it will be a missile if it breaks and will either kill or injury anybody in the way.

Regards

Mark
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Follow Up By: craignjanet - Tuesday, Dec 16, 2003 at 16:31

Tuesday, Dec 16, 2003 at 16:31
Mark

Have the Factory fitted Prado Hitch so I guess the answer would be no. Have not fitted the Bull bars to front either

Thanks

Craig
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Reply By: paul - Tuesday, Dec 16, 2003 at 17:06

Tuesday, Dec 16, 2003 at 17:06
i got the old prado, do i have recovery points or are they tie down points i look at ?
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Follow Up By: ross - Tuesday, Dec 16, 2003 at 17:18

Tuesday, Dec 16, 2003 at 17:18
Treat any factory hook or attachment point as a towage or tie down point .I dont know of any manufacturer that fits bonafide recovery points except maybe Hummer or Unimog.
My landcruiser has some twirly things fitted which are reasonably strong but definately not able to take 2 or 3 times the weight of the vehicle which is the forces that can be generated by deep mud or kinetic ropes.
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Follow Up By: Graeme - Tuesday, Dec 16, 2003 at 18:17

Tuesday, Dec 16, 2003 at 18:17
Good question.
... if you have a Toyota bullbar fitted then they removed your recovery point when they installed the bullbar.
... no bullbar, you have one fitted on the driver side front - there should also be one on the rear UNLESS you have a Toyota towbar - then the story is the same as the bullbar!
... the 2 'pointing down' round fittings are tie-down points and should NOT be used as recovery points.

Hope that helps
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Reply By: Outnabout David (SA) - Tuesday, Dec 16, 2003 at 17:28

Tuesday, Dec 16, 2003 at 17:28
Craignjanet,

You have got some wrong info here because I think no 0ne realises you have the new 120 series Prado which has welded tie down hooks.

To my knowledge no one to this point in time has a rated recovery hook available to bolt on. If you get underneath you will see that there is only one bolt hole in the chassis and nowhere else to bolt another low enough to clear the bumper. Some people have suggested using a bridle arrangement utilising the tie downs but you would only use in a very slight jerk situation. You cetainly wouldn't want someone gungho pulling you. This is not rated and I wouldn't recommend it as I am fitting a winch and an ARB bull bar. If the bull bar doesn't have a rated point then my recovery point on the front will be the winch.

The towbar tongue can be removed by undoing the bolt that holds it in place in the tube. The diameter of the bolt is the same as a "reece"type pin. Hooks can be fitted to the rear on the chassis but you need to watch fowling on the bumper as this will cut the strap in an instant.We have so little time to enjoy our land
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Follow Up By: craignjanet - Tuesday, Dec 16, 2003 at 21:03

Tuesday, Dec 16, 2003 at 21:03
David

There appears to be one safely bolted to the back. The holes on the front ar probably too high to attach (and on the side of the chassis) a recovery point without snagging on the bumber
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Follow Up By: Outnabout David (SA) - Tuesday, Dec 16, 2003 at 21:19

Tuesday, Dec 16, 2003 at 21:19
craignjanet,

It might be bolted safely but itb is only a towing or tie down. No factory hook/loop is load rated however you can get this replaced with an ARB one with the correct hole spacing but beware of the snatch strap fouling on the bumper.We have so little time to enjoy our land
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Reply By: ToyMotor - Tuesday, Dec 16, 2003 at 20:09

Tuesday, Dec 16, 2003 at 20:09
Check with Toyota, unfortunately I think they will tell you that there is no method of attaching a recovery point to the front of your vehicle.

We may hear of a law suit in the near future, as the implication in the advertising is that the Prado is an off-road capable vehicle. (It would take a brave man, as Toyota must have an awful lot of expensive lawyers...)

Cheers
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Follow Up By: craignjanet - Tuesday, Dec 16, 2003 at 20:43

Tuesday, Dec 16, 2003 at 20:43
Strangely enough there is one attached to the back. Must tell you something about it's capability
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Follow Up By: Member - Ross - Tuesday, Dec 16, 2003 at 21:12

Tuesday, Dec 16, 2003 at 21:12
Does that mean it can only go so far in before being skull dragged out backwards ... ?? ;-DFidei defensor

Rosco
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Follow Up By: ToyMotor - Tuesday, Dec 16, 2003 at 22:24

Tuesday, Dec 16, 2003 at 22:24
But seriously though, check with Toyota, after all, you wouldn't want to get all bitter and twisted (like the Prado might be) after snatching it from a point that the factory said not to use, and therefore wouldn't cover under the warranty. I know someone who's asked, and for what it's worth, was told exactly that by Toyota! I'm not trying to have a snipe at your vehicle, personally I think Prados are a lot better off-road than some might think.

Cheers
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