Sand flags on the CSR

Hi fellow Forumers, Starting to prep for the CSR trip mid year and trying to fit it all in the GU with out getting to HEAVY/cluttered, (the wife wants the kitchen sink) is there a requirement to use a sand flag ?
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Reply By: equinox - Saturday, Feb 25, 2012 at 17:04

Saturday, Feb 25, 2012 at 17:04
Hi Mudguard,

Sandflag's are not essential, nor is it illegal to not have then on on the CSR.

It is all about driving to the conditions.

A lot of people think it is safer to drive with one on, and they are probably right. It won't make you drive more safely, however will let others pinpoint your location more easily. There are many sandridges on the CSR and a sandflag will indicate to anyone on the other side of one that you are there if they are looking.

No matter how visible you are though, you will always get some people who will have trouble seeing you for one reason or another, so you always have to keep alert.

Have a good time, I'm jealous.

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Follow Up By: Mudguard - Saturday, Feb 25, 2012 at 17:25

Saturday, Feb 25, 2012 at 17:25
Thanks, yes it is a bit different than the Simpson, traffic volume and people getting stuck on the dunes from not letting down their tyres enough
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Reply By: Mick O - Saturday, Feb 25, 2012 at 17:54

Saturday, Feb 25, 2012 at 17:54
I'm probably telling you how to suck eggs here MG given your other travels but a UHF is probably more important than the sandflag and an absolute essential out there. For an arduous trip like the canning, I prefer to have two on board and/or a spare areal as the corrugations soon take their toll. A couple of hand helds in the centre console are also a must.

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Follow Up By: Allan B (Member, SunCoast) - Saturday, Feb 25, 2012 at 18:45

Saturday, Feb 25, 2012 at 18:45
Mick, are you finding the Canning so routine that you are now talking to yourself? LOL

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Follow Up By: Mick O - Saturday, Feb 25, 2012 at 20:02

Saturday, Feb 25, 2012 at 20:02
Hey Al,

I reckon if I can make myself sound like a convoy, it might slow the oncomers down lol.

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Follow Up By: Allan B (Member, SunCoast) - Saturday, Feb 25, 2012 at 21:08

Saturday, Feb 25, 2012 at 21:08
I just tape the mic open while I play a soundtrack from Mad Max. lol

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Reply By: Wayne (NSW) - Saturday, Feb 25, 2012 at 19:43

Saturday, Feb 25, 2012 at 19:43
Mudguard,

How heavy do you think a sand flag might be compared to a Troopie sitting on your bonnet.

UHF, sand flag and head lights on, anything to make your vehicle more noticeable.

True you still might not be seen but at least you tried


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Follow Up By: Michael A (VIC) - Saturday, Feb 25, 2012 at 20:16

Saturday, Feb 25, 2012 at 20:16
What Wayne said,

less is more on the Canning. Leave the kitchen sink at home

Enjoy.

Michael A
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Follow Up By: Mudguard - Saturday, Feb 25, 2012 at 20:17

Saturday, Feb 25, 2012 at 20:17
yes I realise you scan for incoming and the lead vehicle would have both but does the rest of the convoy need flags, its not like Stockton or the Simpson no the SD is defined to the 1 track as well
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Follow Up By: Michael A (VIC) - Saturday, Feb 25, 2012 at 20:25

Saturday, Feb 25, 2012 at 20:25
In an ideal world yes, but you never know how spread out thee convoy will be OR whether a sub group might have to do an emergency run for parts.

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Follow Up By: Mudguard - Saturday, Feb 25, 2012 at 20:39

Saturday, Feb 25, 2012 at 20:39
Wayne, I see you like the MURPHY's water cart saying
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Follow Up By: Wayne (NSW) - Saturday, Feb 25, 2012 at 21:08

Saturday, Feb 25, 2012 at 21:08
Michael,

The parts wouldn't happen to be U bolts by any chance?


Mudguard,

On the Canning the track is not straight, it zig zags in between the dunes and the first vehicle just might be out of sight of oncoming vehicles.
If all the vehicles have a flag the more chance of been seen.

Any vehicle in the convey can have a second UHF on scan. Even if you are travelling by your self (not recommended) have the UHF on scan. Not all coveys are on channel 40.


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Follow Up By: Michael A (VIC) - Saturday, Feb 25, 2012 at 21:12

Saturday, Feb 25, 2012 at 21:12
All I am saying is that I always carry a set of U bolts :)

2 weeks to go !!

And yes, that was a good trip.

Michael A
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Reply By: Member - Scrubby (VIC) - Saturday, Feb 25, 2012 at 22:02

Saturday, Feb 25, 2012 at 22:02
G`day Muddy,

It`s a good idea to have a sand flag, it doesn`t have to be an expensive set up, I use an old two piece solid fibre glass fishing rod about 12 ft long with the butt and guides removed and flag taped firmly to the top. This is easily fitted to the bull bar with U-bolts (The type used on TV antenna`s that have the serrated clamp that grips the pipe... rod ) and comes apart for traveling when not required.

Travel as light as possible, when you are loaded with everything you reckon you will need, put half of it back in the shed, that should be about right. LOL

Enjoy the experience,

Scrubby.
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Follow Up By: Mick O - Sunday, Feb 26, 2012 at 00:30

Sunday, Feb 26, 2012 at 00:30
Good Call Scrubmeister. Here's one of my first sandflags....a fibreglass rod cable tied to the roof rack of the Navara. I had my god-daughters invent something bright to put on it. This one's yellow but I also got a flouro pink number but hell, they were eight! They did the job!

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Reply By: Mudguard - Sunday, Feb 26, 2012 at 15:34

Sunday, Feb 26, 2012 at 15:34
Sand flag it is then, ( trip leader dos'nt think its required ) but being VISABLE is
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Follow Up By: Allan B (Member, SunCoast) - Sunday, Feb 26, 2012 at 16:27

Sunday, Feb 26, 2012 at 16:27
Well he is right. A jack is not required until you get a flat. A fire extinguisher is not required until you get a fire. A first aid kit is not required until you suffer an injury. A sand flag is not required until................!!!

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Reply By: DCS (wa) - Sunday, Feb 26, 2012 at 20:22

Sunday, Feb 26, 2012 at 20:22
We all used sand flags when we drove the CSR because there is a serious risk of head on collisions on blind corners and when cresting sand dunes
Having a HF radio radio in a convoy enabled us to be aware of who else was traveling around us in both directions.
Having two radios one on channel 40 (the official channel for the CSR) and one channel your club just keeps you in touch with everybody around you.
The key to driving on soft sand is keeping the weight down
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