Users opinions please
Submitted: Thursday, Dec 18, 2003 at 20:41
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Voxson (Adelaide)
This question is to people who have a sat-phone "and" a
hf radio... "I am thinking of buying a
hf radio but i already have a sat-phone... Is it a handy to have both or is just the sat phone enough??.. Are the features of the hf worthy of spending the 3 g's or just stick with the phone??"
Regards...___________________________________
Simpson trip 05/04 then turn left at
Birdsville to
Darwin via
Lawn Hill etc
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Reply By: Big John (QLD) - Thursday, Dec 18, 2003 at 21:52
Thursday, Dec 18, 2003 at 21:52
Stick to the Sat Phone unless you are a bit of a radio buff or you have mates with HF sets
Regards big john
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Reply By: Truckster (Vic) - Thursday, Dec 18, 2003 at 21:55
Thursday, Dec 18, 2003 at 21:55
I think that if you are travelling in the nowhere land, its nice to have all options between cars, 1 with HF 1 with Satphone...
Just nice incase something ISNT working due to damage from a crash or other..
YMMV
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Reply By: Member - Bob - Thursday, Dec 18, 2003 at 22:21
Thursday, Dec 18, 2003 at 22:21
Voxson,
a lot has been said on this and resides in the archives. Both is best, but we are all constrained by cost and clutter. Satphone for reliable emergency comms. HF if you need to be part of a community.Bob
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Reply By: Martyn (WA) - Thursday, Dec 18, 2003 at 22:28
Thursday, Dec 18, 2003 at 22:28
Voxson,
I just have HF don't have a sat-phone, a phone you are relying on contacting a person, with a
HF radio have the possibility of contacting hundreds possibly thousands of people at once, and that person that could help could be 10 klms away over the next
hill. As mentioned both would be the best. My opinions as usual.Keep the shiny side up
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Reply By: Phil G - Thursday, Dec 18, 2003 at 22:57
Thursday, Dec 18, 2003 at 22:57
I have a current model
HF radio and subscribe to both VKS737 and a radio telephone network (Bush Telephone). When I go away, I radiotelephone my wife to tell her where we are etc. I have found this very reliable. It costs $115 per year to subscribe to this service (+ calls).
The only advantage of a sat phone, is that people can contact you more easily, provided you have the unit turned on etc.
If its for business, then a sat phone is good. For everything else, get a current model
HF radio. I spent $3000 on a Barrett 950 with autotune. Enjoy the sked sessions on VKS, then leave it scanning in case anyone wants to selcall me.
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Follow Up By: Phil G - Thursday, Dec 18, 2003 at 23:04
Thursday, Dec 18, 2003 at 23:04
Voxson,
Just to add, that your sat phone is good for emergency use. But all you can do in an emergency is phone the nearest
police station for help, or someone else for advice.
But the
HF radio is great for general info (weather, road reports, rain etc) and as mentioned before, on the sked sessions on 8022, you can be in touch with "unknown" willing helpers nearby. VKS737 is widely used by outback travellers.
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Reply By: Camper - Thursday, Dec 18, 2003 at 23:26
Thursday, Dec 18, 2003 at 23:26
Hi Voxon,
Electric Bug on Torrens Rd. in
Adelaide has a handout evaluating the costs etc of the two
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Reply By: Member - Jack - Friday, Dec 19, 2003 at 06:32
Friday, Dec 19, 2003 at 06:32
With a sat phone you should be able to phone up the VKS folks and ask then if they could put out a general call to users indicating you problems, with a view to getting someone in the area to come to your aid.
Yes? No?
I have a chance of picking at a Motorola / Iridium phone at a good price from a mate of
mine and had thought this could work.
Safe travels
JackNo trees were harmed in the making or sending of this message.
However a great number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced.
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Follow Up By: Outnabout David (SA) - Friday, Dec 19, 2003 at 11:24
Friday, Dec 19, 2003 at 11:24
I wouldn't necessarily rely on that unless you were a member of the particular HF network. There has been a bit of rivalry between a couple of networks so it would depend on the situation and the operator as to whether it bgot through. If you got a flat and haven't got a jack or you broke your diff........probably not, if you have severed an artery or have been bitten by a snake.......probably. I went HF because you are never alone and that is handy if you travel on a one car or small group journey. General communication, news, weather, rfds etc etc. certainly better than a sat phone that just sits there looking at you. The HF costs hardly anything per year and can be used antywhere anytime. The sat phone is going to cost you a monthly charge which over the life time will work out dearer than the HF initial cost.
Satphones are not like your ordinary mobile. If you are talking about the $1000 type you have to be stationary to use and I found the ones I hired seemed to chew up the power pretty quickly. That may have just been the fact that they were hired.
HF for me by a country mile!We have so little time to enjoy our land
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Follow Up By: Member - Jack - Friday, Dec 19, 2003 at 12:53
Friday, Dec 19, 2003 at 12:53
Thanks David:
Certainly food for thought.
Cheers
JackNo trees were harmed in the making or sending of this message.
However a great number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced.
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Follow Up By: Member - Peter [SA] - Friday, Dec 19, 2003 at 21:30
Friday, Dec 19, 2003 at 21:30
Dont know what sat phone you are talking about, but the 9500,9505 dont have to be stationary to be used
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Follow Up By: Member - Jack - Saturday, Dec 20, 2003 at 05:23
Saturday, Dec 20, 2003 at 05:23
Thanks Peter. My phone is yet to arrive and be connected. I had planned to use it only for emergencies and for sending/receiving email. It is a 9500.
JackNo trees were harmed in the making or sending of this message.
However a great number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced.
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Reply By: Member - Ross - Friday, Dec 19, 2003 at 07:34
Friday, Dec 19, 2003 at 07:34
Vox
I think you should swap over to HF. If it's any help in your decision making process I think I know just the bloke who'll take that old sat ph off your hands .... you know ... reduce the clutter in your truck...
CheersFidei defensor
Rosco
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Follow Up By: Voxson (Adelaide) - Friday, Dec 19, 2003 at 22:22
Friday, Dec 19, 2003 at 22:22
Hey Rosco.... You keep trying.... Maybe you will wear me down soon... I can feel it slipping away......___________________________________
Simpson trip 05/04 then turn left at
Birdsville to
Darwin via
Lawn Hill etc
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Reply By: Outnabout David (SA) - Friday, Dec 19, 2003 at 14:59
Friday, Dec 19, 2003 at 14:59
Voxson,
Go to Electric Bug on Torrens road. They should be able to answer all your questions or try getting some answers from reading Here
We have so little time to enjoy our land
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Reply By: Voxson (Adelaide) - Friday, Dec 19, 2003 at 22:17
Friday, Dec 19, 2003 at 22:17
I think i will go the step further and find out more into the
hf radio because the trip i am stating in my tagline will be done as a loner.... Not just one vehicle but just me on my own....
I would like to hear from anyone who has done the second leg of my journey from
Birdsville and up.....
I know the general dangers of freaks and weirdos like the Falconio saga but what about " are there many
places on the way up where i could accidently wander into and become threatened by any native aussies?"... or is it smooth sailing up to
Darwin from
Birdsville - Mt Isa -
Lawn Hill -
Daly Waters and up......
Regards.........___________________________________
Simpson trip 05/04 then turn left at
Birdsville to
Darwin via
Lawn Hill etc
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Follow Up By: uppy - Saturday, Dec 20, 2003 at 09:07
Saturday, Dec 20, 2003 at 09:07
Hi Voxson nothing to do with your posting.But will i need a flag for the
sand dunes if so where can i get one
regards uppy
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Follow Up By: Voxson (Adelaide) - Sunday, Dec 21, 2003 at 18:16
Sunday, Dec 21, 2003 at 18:16
I bought a length of electrical conduit from a salvage yard and just tied an
orange workflag on top....___________________________________
Simpson trip 05/04 then turn left at
Birdsville to
Darwin via
Lawn Hill etc
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Reply By: Foss - Friday, Dec 19, 2003 at 22:43
Friday, Dec 19, 2003 at 22:43
G'DAy All
Been in
places where Satphone didn't work long enough to get a call established. HF worked fine. Deep narrow gully, tall forest. 5 injured people on the track. Government surveyor with Sat phone couldn't get a call out.
I'm sure this is just one of those
places, but, if it can happen once it will happen again. Besides, with a sat phone you are relying on a third party ( the satelites ) for your comms.
HF is direct.
regards & seasons greetings
Foss
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