Problems with my new Garmin 450 GPS ( I am a computer idiot)

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I just purchased a new Garmin 450 handheld GPS and also the 5m maps of Australia, from Johnny Appleseed. I find this new unit very easy to operate in the field and I love the big touch screen, but I am having "technical difficulties" !

The JA guy installed the 5m maps of WA, NSW and Vic on the unit - there was not enough memory for the whole of Australia.

Today I bought an 8 gig micro SD card, put it in and loaded the entire set of Australian maps. Well I think I did, but how can I confirm it ?

Also is there somewhere in the GPS menu that you have to change so the unit will look at the SD card instead of the internal memory ?

I cannot figure out how to transfer waypoints into it from Google Earth or Oziexplorer either.

If anybody can give me some easy to understand directions, I would greatly appreciate it.

Thanks a lot,

Willie.

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I am very disappointed with the Johnny Appleseed 5m maps I purchased. They seem to have NO tracks or minor roads marked on them - just lakes , major roads and contours. Or am I looking at the wrong maps somehow ?
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Reply By: Gary.L - Friday, Mar 02, 2012 at 23:14

Friday, Mar 02, 2012 at 23:14
Hi Willie

I have the Garmin Oregon 450 and use it most weeks, mostly for recording.

From my limited understanding the Garmin should be able to read both the sd card and the internal memory at the same time.

To find out which maps you Garmin is able to read go to SETUP then MAP then MAP INFORMATION SELECT MAP. This should list all maps that are available to chose from.

Don't use those maps that you have mentioned.

For transferring waypoints From computer to GPS, I use Garmin Basecamp.

Hope this info is of use

Cheers
Gary

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Follow Up By: 3 - Sunday, Mar 04, 2012 at 09:13

Sunday, Mar 04, 2012 at 09:13
Hi Gary,

I found that MAP in SETUP and did as you instructed.

"Don't use those maps that you have mentioned." Do you mean don't use the 5m maps I paid $100 for, or don't use the ones that came standard with the unit ?

Is Garmin BASECAMP similar to Garmin MAPSOURCE ?

Thanks a lot,

Willie.

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Follow Up By: Gary.L - Sunday, Mar 04, 2012 at 16:49

Sunday, Mar 04, 2012 at 16:49
Apologies for that, what I meant was that I don't use them maps:)

The maps I use are the standard ones, and also birdseye images.

Garmin website is selling topo maps for australia and NZ with contours at 20m intervals for $229. The maps that you have seem to be more detailed at half the cost. IMO you have got a bargin:)

Basecamp is similar to mapsource.



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Reply By: Member - Doug T (NT) - Saturday, Mar 03, 2012 at 09:56

Saturday, Mar 03, 2012 at 09:56
It depends on where you got the entire set of maps , and it depends on how you loaded them onto the SD Card.
Garmin have a tutorial and I have a link to it, hope it works , if not I'll work around it somehow.
This is for older units but the basics are the same .

TUTORIAL




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Follow Up By: Member - Doug T (NT) - Saturday, Mar 03, 2012 at 09:58

Saturday, Mar 03, 2012 at 09:58
Yep it works, you can either click RUN the program or download it.

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Follow Up By: 3 - Sunday, Mar 04, 2012 at 07:14

Sunday, Mar 04, 2012 at 07:14
Hi Doug,

When I clicked on your "TUTORIAL" my screen said "invalid domain. Is my computer locking your site out for some reason ?

Thanks,

Willie.
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Follow Up By: 3 - Sunday, Mar 04, 2012 at 07:18

Sunday, Mar 04, 2012 at 07:18
Doug,

"It depends on where you got the entire set of maps" - I purchased them from JA when I got the 450.

"it depends on how you loaded them onto the SD Card" - The chap at JA took over my computer from their site and installed the 5m maps using Mapsource.

Willie
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Follow Up By: Member - Doug T (NT) - Sunday, Mar 04, 2012 at 09:59

Sunday, Mar 04, 2012 at 09:59
Willie
email me and I'll send it to you.

dtilley5@bigpond.com

It'll be in your security settings , it is a Macromedia Flash Player 8.0 r22 type file.

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Follow Up By: Member - Doug T (NT) - Sunday, Mar 04, 2012 at 10:13

Sunday, Mar 04, 2012 at 10:13
Click this link HERE and go to page 27, (33 of 52) .


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Reply By: Member - Doug T (NT) - Saturday, Mar 03, 2012 at 10:05

Saturday, Mar 03, 2012 at 10:05
Here's another clue....Oh and never, never be disappointed with JA, they are brilliant and will every thing possible to help you.

OK now in the GPS settings look for a setting about showing LESS...MORE...MOST, if you find it set it to show MOST.

Also if you can find the map settings and turn the main map OFF , if it works like a Nuvi the main CN map will over-ride the 2nd installed mapping software, turn one off, turn the other on,

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Follow Up By: 3 - Sunday, Mar 04, 2012 at 09:08

Sunday, Mar 04, 2012 at 09:08
Doug,

"OK now in the GPS settings look for a setting about showing LESS...MORE...MOST, if you find it set it to show MOST." I looked under SETTINGS, but could not find this.


I am not disappointed with JA, their service was excellent. I am disappointed with the lack of any minor roads or tracks being shown on the 5m maps they sell.

If you know of any maps with more track detail please let me know and I will buy them.

Thanks,

Willie.
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Reply By: MUD - Saturday, Mar 03, 2012 at 11:50

Saturday, Mar 03, 2012 at 11:50
Basecamp can't read the ozi .wpt format so you need to use ozi and export them in a .gpx format.
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Follow Up By: 3 - Sunday, Mar 04, 2012 at 09:18

Sunday, Mar 04, 2012 at 09:18
Mr Mud,

I can see in Oziexplorer it says "Export Waypoints to GPX file". Is this what you mean.

Not sure what to do at this point .

As I said, I am a computer cretin - sorry.

Thanks,

Willie.
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Follow Up By: 3 - Sunday, Mar 04, 2012 at 09:21

Sunday, Mar 04, 2012 at 09:21
I tried to access your website, but had no luck (http://http//mud-maps.com)
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Follow Up By: MUD - Sunday, Mar 04, 2012 at 14:36

Sunday, Mar 04, 2012 at 14:36
Yeah, so click "export waypoints to gpx file" option and then save the gpx file. Then this file can be imported into Garmin Basecamp
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Follow Up By: MUD - Sunday, Mar 04, 2012 at 14:37

Sunday, Mar 04, 2012 at 14:37
You had 2 http in there. The correct address is http://mud-maps.com
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Follow Up By: 3 - Thursday, Mar 08, 2012 at 18:29

Thursday, Mar 08, 2012 at 18:29
Mr Mud,
I got the Ozi waypoint files and saved them as GPX files - now I just have to figure out how to transfer them to my 450 using Basecamp.
Thank you for your help,
Willie.
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Reply By: 3 - Sunday, Mar 04, 2012 at 07:11

Sunday, Mar 04, 2012 at 07:11
Gary, Doug and Mr Mud,

I will try all these things you suggest and report back here.

Thanks a lot,

Willie.
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Reply By: The Explorer - Sunday, Mar 04, 2012 at 12:15

Sunday, Mar 04, 2012 at 12:15
Hello Mike

The 5m "maps" from JA are just contours - the data sets doesn’t include any other features. The idea is that you have the 5m contours loaded and turned on (“enabled”) as well as another maps set (e.g. Garmin topo Australia or Oztopo). The contours are then overlain over the top of the other map set so you end up with a Topo map of sorts.

You can actually download a similar product for free from here (Contours Australia).

I personally wouldnt bother with either of these 5m products (especially the one for $100) as they are grossly inaccurate. If you have any need for 5m contours you are kidding yourself if you use these. Both 5m contour products are based on 90m spaced spot heights (generally speaking..some are closer). Even 10m contours based on this data are inaccurate so 5m is a bit of a joke, They also take up way to much space as you have found out.

Anyway. thats my opinion....if you want to persevere you will have to go into Setup - Map - Select Map and turn on and off (enable/disable) the various map sets you have loaded. Leave the 5m one enabled and choose one of the other map sets you want to view and enable that as well – disable all others (you don’t say what other map sets you have so I have no idea what you have to choose from other than the 5m set).

You can confirm you have the full 5m product loaded in the Select Map page as it should list the names of the areas available. If it doesnt show this information you will just have to pan around the screen to see what coverage you have loaded.

The unit will look at the SD card if you have one inserted ...there is no setting to make it look there...it does it automatically. You do however have to create a folder called Garmin on the SD card - put your maps in here otherwise they wont be seen.

Use Garmins free Basecamp Software for waypoints and tracks. You can import/export Google Earth files (kml/kmz) in Basecamp and then send to you GPS as GPX format (all waypoint and track data on your unit is in gpx format). GPX format which can obviously be opened with Basecamp and also imported/exported out of OziExplorer.

Cheers
Greg

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