Diesel service intervals

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Just read the 4wd Action article comparing running costs of various fuels. It was skewed against diesel because it had the late model CRD's having to be serviced at 5K intervals. I have 2 CRD's and the factory intervals are 10K/6mths for one and 12K/6mths for the other. If it's a VW then the interval would be 15K/12mths. They had the 2010 Wrangler at 5K when the manual says 13K (20K in some countries). Are they still living in the 90's where turbo diesels were noisy, gutless and had high service costs? Or are they being precious about their TD motors? Cheers.
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Reply By: Member -Pinko (NSW) - Saturday, Mar 03, 2012 at 11:31

Saturday, Mar 03, 2012 at 11:31
Hello Mike
I have a 70 series V8 crd and the service schedule clearly states 5000k intermediate service which is grease points and a check over and 20000k for fluids and filters.
I also have a peugeot 406 crd and it see's a service each 20000k it has 100000k on the odo and is also the most reliable cheapest to maintain car that I have owned.
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Follow Up By: get outmore - Saturday, Mar 03, 2012 at 14:28

Saturday, Mar 03, 2012 at 14:28
Obviously they dont have a petrol version of the ute any more. So theres nothing to constellation it to
However the 79 series had identical servicing requirements for both petrol and diesel

Answer to his question is yes they are living in the past or more likely just re hashing an old story
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Reply By: Grant L - Saturday, Mar 03, 2012 at 12:36

Saturday, Mar 03, 2012 at 12:36
I have Colorado 2010 now do my own service dealerships and local garages hopeless typically overfill oil by up to a liter. Any way book says oil drain and filter very 10k dealer was doing every 15k and using semi synthetic oil, I am now doing 15 to 20 using semi synthetic (subject to season and work veh is doing).

Also have 2010 model Mercedes "Artego" truck, oil and filter every 50k using castrol environ oil (vehice specific) and change air filter every three years(works better with use) supposedly, engine doesn't have dip stick all computerized has now done 450k. serviced by dealer only.

I think there is a lot more options these days with modern motors and oils (subject to type of work and season).
So I think a diesel in the right hands are pretty cheap to run-service.
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Reply By: Notso - Saturday, Mar 03, 2012 at 12:42

Saturday, Mar 03, 2012 at 12:42
My Triton gives 15,000 ks but for severe operating conditions it is every 7500. Severe operating conditions would include towing, sustained hi speed driving or sustained 4WD high revs etc.
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Follow Up By: mikehzz - Saturday, Mar 03, 2012 at 12:56

Saturday, Mar 03, 2012 at 12:56
My Land Rover is 25K/12mths in Europe but 12K/6mths for severe conditions. Australia is regarded as severe apparently. Driving around Sydney or Melbourne doesn't rate as severe in my book. Perfect weather compared to a lot of other places.
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Reply By: Ross M - Saturday, Mar 03, 2012 at 18:45

Saturday, Mar 03, 2012 at 18:45
While the service interval for modern CRD engine is 10,000km or more it is also important to also observe diff's and transmisssion service.
However, because many take their vehicle to a dealer for sevice it is the non obvious items like diffs and gearbox and transfer case oils and fuel filters which may NEVER get changed by the dealer.
Most dealers are guilty as charged and the service arguement becomes hypothetical unless everyone ACTUALLY follows the service book intervals re use and severe use. This failure of correct service procedures applies to both petrol and diesel vehicles. A stamped service book is exactly that, a stamped service book, nothing else. It means absolutely nothing.

I recently talked to a fuel/lube oil chemist who obviously tests fuels and oils.
He made mention of finding fully serviced Mercedes Benz cars, seviced by MB Dealers not changing engine oil in Mercedes cars for over 50.000km. The problem is Australia wide and is across all dealer brands.
It is the reality of what is happening to your vehicle which matters to you and not issues commented on in magazines or other sources.
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Reply By: mikehzz - Saturday, Mar 03, 2012 at 20:09

Saturday, Mar 03, 2012 at 20:09
Well the article was insinuating that high diesel service costs were negating the fuel economy savings. This has not been the case for me. I haven't noticed any appreciable increase in service costs over the last 3 years/120k of my two CRD vehicles compared to my previous petrol/LPG vehicles. I won't go back, I'm sold on CRDs just like most of Europe is. I get really cheesed of if my fuel economy hits double digits now....the 8-9litres/100kms suits me fine thank you.
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Reply By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Saturday, Mar 03, 2012 at 23:01

Saturday, Mar 03, 2012 at 23:01
With that 4wd mag, they won't let the facts get in the way of a good story.
10k intervals for direct injection diesels have been around for a long time.
Miy Landcruiser is 10 years old and has 10k oil change intervals - oil is still pretty clean at 5k.
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Follow Up By: get outmore - Saturday, Mar 03, 2012 at 23:19

Saturday, Mar 03, 2012 at 23:19
I remember this old discussion with you

according to the handbook the service intervals for the 70 series indirect or direct have been identical for both petrol and diesal at least since the 79 came out in 1999. they actually share the same handbook

I guess its ok that someone has actually tried to quantify thie difference but theres alot of variables right down to if you do the servicing your self and when you buy your fuel.

i just cvame back from adelaide and therer was a huge difference in the price of ULP compared to diesal when i flew in - approx $1.35 compared to $1.50 for diesal.

a few days later Disal was cheaper as ULP jumped to over $1.50
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Reply By: bazz - Saturday, Mar 03, 2012 at 23:50

Saturday, Mar 03, 2012 at 23:50
Nissan Patrol 4.2 diesel non turbo 2000 model ute, oil/filters every 5000k, note 2 oil filters on these motors, takes 10 litres of oil as well, 700 k out of main tank with canopy , 800 without , sitting on 100kph, 400ks towing 2.5 t van cheers Barry
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Reply By: Member - Doug T (NT) - Sunday, Mar 04, 2012 at 10:26

Sunday, Mar 04, 2012 at 10:26
Ever since I have had my old 94 Troopy it gets and oil change / service every 10,000 K's , at 762,000 it's rare to have to add oil in the 10,000.
I always add a bottle of Nulon for diesel engines.

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