Which Cruiser to Buy??

Hi,

Hoping for some input, I have narrowed my new purchase down to a 100 series cruiser but my quetion is this - should I get a V6 on gas or a V8 on gas??

For the amount I'm willing to spend ($25,000) I can get into around a 2002/03 of either, somewhere near 200,000kms.

Any suggestions on which one to go for? Is the fuel economy that much better in a six or is there a greater benefit in having the 8??

I'm not a car expert (if my thread so far hasn't given this away!), input would be appreciated particularly if its from experience,

Cheers & look forward to hearing from you soon,

Derm
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Reply By: Dermottj - Monday, Mar 05, 2012 at 15:00

Monday, Mar 05, 2012 at 15:00
Sorry to clarify, I'm thinking dual fuel (LPG & Petrol) :-)
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Follow Up By: Member - nick b - Tuesday, Mar 06, 2012 at 08:38

Tuesday, Mar 06, 2012 at 08:38
Its my understanding that gas cant be fitted to all models of v8 petrol , we have 03 v8 ifs auto petrol , & that's a no go !!!!

Turbo diesel would be best if your got the extra cash much better on fuel when not on hwy .... 4wd on & off the accelerator

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Reply By: guy007 - Monday, Mar 05, 2012 at 15:08

Monday, Mar 05, 2012 at 15:08
I would definitely go the V6 but they are very hard to Find!
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Follow Up By: Alloy c/t - Monday, Mar 05, 2012 at 15:51

Monday, Mar 05, 2012 at 15:51
Yes indeed , very hard to find a V6 100 series Landcruiser ,, bit like hens teeth and unicorns,, lol.
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Follow Up By: Dermottj - Monday, Mar 05, 2012 at 16:31

Monday, Mar 05, 2012 at 16:31
Hopefully you've enjoyed laughing at my lack of car knowledge (I did say I was no good at it!), a straight six would be your choice then?
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Reply By: Member - Brian A (NSW) - Monday, Mar 05, 2012 at 15:49

Monday, Mar 05, 2012 at 15:49
Dermottj,

Straight 6 with 3 speed and overdrive or a V8, being a better donk with an additional gear. No choice!!

Brian
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Reply By: george50 - Monday, Mar 05, 2012 at 16:52

Monday, Mar 05, 2012 at 16:52
Hi Dermottj, I've got a 2001 6 cyl. petrol , 5pd man. . V.good car but thirsty- 18-20/ltr per 100km. without towing. LPG can be fitted [even keeping both tanks] but I wouldn't bother if you're touring and towing . I've heard lpg use is huge under those conditions even if you can find some. The V8 is a little better economically , Good luck.
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Reply By: baz&pud (Tassie) - Monday, Mar 05, 2012 at 17:54

Monday, Mar 05, 2012 at 17:54
Hi Dermy,
We have a 2002 V8 petrol with just under 200000 on the clock, we use approx 23 ltrs per 100ks when towing.
Great vehicle and wonderful donk, if you have the chance go for it.
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Follow Up By: Axle - Tuesday, Mar 06, 2012 at 07:50

Tuesday, Mar 06, 2012 at 07:50
Hi Baz, ..What Weight is Your Van?


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Follow Up By: baz&pud (Tassie) - Tuesday, Mar 06, 2012 at 15:06

Tuesday, Mar 06, 2012 at 15:06
G'day Axle

Van weighs 2250 empty.

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Reply By: Member - Tour Boy ( Bundy QLD) - Monday, Mar 05, 2012 at 21:16

Monday, Mar 05, 2012 at 21:16
Hi Mate,
If you go for the V8 try to get as late as you can with the 5 speed auto rather than the 4 speed. Smoother...or a manual if you can find one.

Personally I prefer the 6 as you can fit dual LPG tanks and keep both petrol tanks. The V8's (100 series) have a different chassis and you have to replace the sub tank for LPG or put the tank in the car. The 6 (105 series) has a rigid (live beam) front axle the v8 has a torsion bar wishbone independant set up.
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Reply By: Axle - Monday, Mar 05, 2012 at 21:28

Monday, Mar 05, 2012 at 21:28
G/Day Mate,... Forget Gas on the V8 4.7L petrol Cruiser...It wont be a long liver!!...Just have a research on the LCOOL Forum.

In saying that i have a 04 model V8 petrol with 220.000ks, Just recentley on a 1000k quick trip it returned 13.5 L/100k...Nothing wrong with that for something thats got a lot of grunt, quiet, and very comfy.!

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Follow Up By: Member - nick b - Tuesday, Mar 06, 2012 at 07:31

Tuesday, Mar 06, 2012 at 07:31
Axle : I would love to know the secret of 13.5 L/100 .....
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Follow Up By: Member - Tony V (NSW) - Tuesday, Mar 06, 2012 at 09:30

Tuesday, Mar 06, 2012 at 09:30
Axle,

I have a 2004 V8 purchased from new, when I purchased it I had the dealer put LPG on it from the show room, 228,855 kms.

I do not believe that I am the exception? I am also a LCOOL member and would also suggest that research on LCOOL for UZJ100R on LPG will be positive, LPG installers and the problems they cause, might be a different result.

Nick,

13.5 on a run, it is quite achievable provided the right foot is not nailed to the floor.

Loaded for touring and on a long run, I normally get 14.5 on petrol and just under 17 on LPG. Crack 110 and the economy drops greatly.

I do have bar and winch, racks, sliders, lift and draws that tend to eat fuel.
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Reply By: 3 Boys and a Lady - Monday, Mar 05, 2012 at 22:02

Monday, Mar 05, 2012 at 22:02
G'day

We have a 2000 lc on dual petrol tanks and dual gas tanks. We put the gas on after lots of advise and I can honestly say I will never never never do it again. If you just want to drive from home to work it's fine. But once on the highway and any load forgot consumption it goes out the window and you find you will be so sick of filling up with gas at every servo you will flick her over to fuel. Our cruiser has been in the work shop more times than on the road and she still runs rough on gas. If you have a family and tow a large rig oh and a tinny on the roof and drive to the speed limit like us expect to use around 27l/100klms unleaded. Mind you that is the best figure it only goes up from there, we have spoke to another traveller with the same car on the weekend and he pushed 33l/ 100klms on Gibb river road towing a large off road trailer with all the camp gear and motorbikes.

I am yet to find someone to trust to look at our gas system and see if it can be improved but at this point we are lucky to get 260klms out of 72 litres of gas. Sometimes it can be worse. The other issue we have with gas is we can be empty and the servo pump will only put in 56 litres or there about and no more so you drive 5klms down the road and your first 1/4 light on your gauge disappears.

So we have not been happy with our choice and thinking it would have been maybe worth investing in that turbo diesel right from the start. I hope this give you some first hand experience with lc and gas. Mind you this has been our experience.
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Reply By: Dermottj - Monday, Mar 05, 2012 at 22:36

Monday, Mar 05, 2012 at 22:36
Thanks for the responses to date, I suppose considering I'll be using this as my car for 10 months of the year around town, is there a noticeable difference or advantage for either model? Or does the same still apply, sounds as if the advice is heading toward the V8 rather than the 6?
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Reply By: Bush Wanderer - Monday, Mar 05, 2012 at 23:38

Monday, Mar 05, 2012 at 23:38
Seems like from most of these posts, you are going to need a fat bank balance to keep the fuel up to them.

Would never have thought that the use that much.

But I suppose a big Petrol motor in a big car then it should be expected.
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Follow Up By: Dermottj - Tuesday, Mar 06, 2012 at 08:27

Tuesday, Mar 06, 2012 at 08:27
You're right, I am sort of expecting to go through a bit of fuel whilst towing a van by am hoping he fuel consumption will be civil around town (LPG especially) :-)
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Reply By: Member - Peter S (NSW) - Tuesday, Mar 06, 2012 at 16:02

Tuesday, Mar 06, 2012 at 16:02
Hi Dermottj, We have a 2003 V8 with 285/75/16 T A T tyres, rear draws loaded, so we do carry a bit of weight, normal driving around the 14 to 16 litres per 100 k, towing our Regent poptop van, 2000kg ATM we use between 19 to 23 litres per 100k, these figures are taken with a scangauge and confirming with a GPS so I do believe they are as close as you can get, we have had this vehicle for 6 years and it has been great, it has the 5 speed auto, hope this helps, Pete.
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Follow Up By: Dermottj - Wednesday, Mar 07, 2012 at 14:19

Wednesday, Mar 07, 2012 at 14:19
G'day Peter,

It does help, has now been consistent with what I'm hearing from other people too. I'm going to start seriously looking at the 2003 onward V8's and am satisfied that's going to be best for me, thanks again,

Derm
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