Tyre upgrade for new 17inch Prado rims

Submitted: Friday, Dec 19, 2003 at 16:04

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Hi all, Myself and a friend are looking at buying new Prados. We want to upgrade the tyres and trade the ones that come standard. From our research the only available to suit are BFG All Terrain TA KO LT265/70/17 and Cooper All Terrain LT265/70/17. (the Dunlops that come standard are AT20 265/65/17).
Apparently the new BFG's are made from a different compond to what they used to be (not as good) and therefore have been advised Coopers are the way to go.

Our question is being 17inch tyres you would expect them to be harder to purchase if you damage them out bush. By moving away from the Dunlops will it be more difficult to source them out bush?
I believe if you must use the same profile and can not use a different profile to get you out of trouble as being full time 4wd it would ruin the drive chain?
The speedo will also read slightly faster but it will not be a significant amount.
Is there anything else to consider?

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Reply By: maverick - Friday, Dec 19, 2003 at 18:11

Friday, Dec 19, 2003 at 18:11

tyres and the new Prado - a vexxing issue. If you want to try a little experiment - run your hand around the inside of the tyre and see how far you get before your hand comes to a stop. there is approx 10mm between the suspension and the tyre wall. This means the Prado cannot have snow chains fitted to the front - not really a problem in WA - but also means you need to be very very careful just how far you let the tyres 'bag out' if sand driving. I have heard 17" tyres are very difficult to get outside the state capitals. Maybe moving down to 16" for the non-bitumen trips - pain in the a..se due to needing 2 sets of wheels/tyres but maybe that is the best way to go. Anyway if you believe Toyotas ads you just need to sit back and enjoy the ride - surely they can't be stretching the truuuuuuth. rgds
ps same size wheels/tyres per axle otherwise there is a possibility of driveline damage if driven a long distance.

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Reply By: jemima puddle duck - Friday, Dec 19, 2003 at 18:57

Friday, Dec 19, 2003 at 18:57

gday wal.
we recently had a new prado come in for a wheel alignment.
5000ks tyres scrubing on the inside front while checking out the new 17inch
tyres i mentioned that theese tyres wouldnt take much to be staked.the tread seems to start about 10-15mm in from the side wall.well 2 weeks later the lady is back with a puncture pull the wheel of the spare and guess what theres a stick straight through the tread about 5mm from the side wall the same spot i mentioned that would be weak.any way cheaper to buy a cooper about $300 i think than the original.in regards to getting tyres in the bush i really couldnt see any one but the biggest tyre places keeping them in stock.but its usually only a day or two to get tyres depending on where you are.(unless your in remote country).
as for fitting 16inch rims we tried and the dont fit over the brake backing plates.
you reckon your cute
richard(eskimo)
but im a lot cuter

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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Saturday, Dec 20, 2003 at 00:20

Saturday, Dec 20, 2003 at 00:20

Try here for fitting 16inch Rims to a Current Model Playdoe.

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Reply By: Truckster (Vic) - Friday, Dec 19, 2003 at 22:42

Friday, Dec 19, 2003 at 22:42

You can run 16inch 80 Series Rims on your new playdoe.... Saves all the hassles.

Search archives, Ive posted details before.

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Follow Up By: Phil G - Saturday, Dec 20, 2003 at 13:47

Saturday, Dec 20, 2003 at 13:47

TRuckster,

The 16x8 80 series rims are as rare as rocking horse dodo. The 90series Prado 16x7 GXL wheels are commonly around as they were pulled off and mags fitted all last year. Only need the 8 inch wheels if going to the 285's. All the 265's go well on the 7 inch

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Reply By: Martin - Friday, Dec 19, 2003 at 23:29

Friday, Dec 19, 2003 at 23:29

Just as a matter of interest i've had 3 prados in the last 6 years. Currently have the new model td. Have been all over the place - outback roads, simpson desert, high country etc and never had a puncture. Have always used the standard tyres (Dunlop) and get 110,000kms on average from them. MAny punctures amongst fellow travellers but none for me. Maybe I'm lucky ....

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Follow Up By: Phil G - Saturday, Dec 20, 2003 at 13:50

Saturday, Dec 20, 2003 at 13:50

Martin I was in a tyre dealer the other day, and the guy ahead of me had a Prado and had done 117,000k on original tyres (rotating 5). I think the Prados are a lot lighter (like 600kgs lighter than the 100 series) and this makes a difference.

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Reply By: tessa_51 - Saturday, Dec 20, 2003 at 07:56

Saturday, Dec 20, 2003 at 07:56

Come on Martin, 110,000k's - which Dunlop dealership do you work for?
Tessa

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Follow Up By: Member - Bruce and Anne - Saturday, Dec 20, 2003 at 11:28

Saturday, Dec 20, 2003 at 11:28

Iam running Goodyear Wranglers AT/R's, the dealer told me they are getting 100k's out of them, we've done 40k and if I get 100k I.ll jump on one and fly to the moon. MU-ving on

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