Camping in Vic with Kids Trail Bike

mmmm I figured that may the answers, I guess it stays at home.!!!

I think some trail bike clubs own properties that you can also camp at ..

Oh Cool, I will look into that.

geez pointyhead-are they going to fine a 7 yr old $1000???
Bruce-I cant suggest a place as I am on the West Coast.
But your best bet is NOT to ask on here. In fact the best bet is probably to just do it somewhere in an out of the way place as you suggested.

I am NOT advocating breaking the spirit of rules which is to avoid annoying people and destroying areas.

But just to teach ya kid to trundle around on a bike, in a safe way without annoying anyone-just do it and be discreet.

Yes they will fine a 7 YO. I have seen it happen . Also if they have an accident injuring a 3rd party without 3rd party insurance the costs could send you bankrupt.

Also is it a good idea for a parent to encourage their children to break the law ?

Unfortunately, remember that a common way for governments to react to unlawful trail bike usage in an area is to ban all trail bike users. So it is in the best interest for riders to do the right thing to ensure they keep access open. This is my motivation for encouraging people to do the right thing because I do not want to see trail bike riders who do the right thing loose access to be able to ride on public land.

As for the trail bike clubs owning properties, I mentioned it because there is a club that owns a property next to the Pyrenees that I have driven past a number of times. They have a track in the property for the young kids to learn and play on while the older licenses club members ride in the Pyrenees S/F. Unfortunately I do not know the club name ...

fisho64

A good example to the kids when you recommend that Dad doesn't even bother following the law.Well done mate.

Phil

My kids know the difference between right and wrong thank you very much. Morals are not laid out by a beauracrat sitting behind a desk. There are plenty of scenarios that are legal but morally wrong and vice versa. I know which way I like my kids to think, and do not want them to be mindless drones who feel the need to consult the relevant legislation via a lawyer before getting out of bed in the morning.

I am not saying that your children do not know what is right or wrong. I am saying that even though they do know what is right and wrong that you still recommend that they go out and do the wrong thing. Regardless of what the law says. Stuff what the law says. Is that the motto now.

Dad said it's fine, so why can't I. Who cares what the stupid bureaucrat says. And who cares if it damages the bush and gets tracks closed.

I just do not figure.

Cheers

Phil

well to be honest phil, you pretty much hit the nail on the head. Except that they dont read the legislation themselves and I dont use your insulting statement "Dad said it's fine, so why can't I. Who cares what the stupid bureaucrat says. And who cares if it damages the bush and gets tracks closed."

More like "lets go for a ride here on the beach 20km from anyone else, if you come across anyone and speed past them etc I'll give you a kick up the bum and you wont be riding anymore."

You can give yourself ulsers second guessing what the "stupid beauracrat" was intending with his rule, I'll just enjoy life quietly with my family, not hurting anyone and minimal impact.
And I'll teach my kids morals and right and wrong without looking at a piece of of paper every 5 minutes and herding them like sheep into a small corral.

Luckily I live in WA out of the big smoke where there is open space to get away from the "madding crowd" and people who insist theirs are the only morals worth having.

cheers!

Not worth a response.

Phil

That was not a good way to finish. We are way off topic and getting nowhere and I think we should finish.

We also obviously have different ideas of what it takes to be a fair and sharing member of this country.

Cheers

Phil

Maybe should have stuck to your second last post. Self rightous springs to mind but yeah lets leave it at that

I thought that I was being a little insulting so I was trying to go out nicely. But you had to have a final insult.

We definitely do not have the same social attitude towards others.

Phil

you may have been trying to go out nicely but with an extra little barb each time on the end.
Have a look at each of your posts above.

Live and let live isnt a bad way to go thru life I reckon if it doesnt affect others unduly.
Lecturing others on how their morals arent up to ones standard can be viewed as a little, well, "condescending".
So how about we agree to just let it go without a barb at the end?

I dont know if they can do that can they? We all say that parents of graffiti vandals and kiddie thieves should be made to pay but as far as I know under the law its not possible except in specific situations.
However if its cops involved then the bike could be confiscated as a hoon.

Hiya Fisho


There was a situation at a camp ground that had those cheap chinese bikes going into the State Forest and they were about 10-12 years old..Later that day i spoke to a Police Officer and said they were riding them dangerously,he said if he catches them he'll fine the parents i thought $1400 in fines.....

I believe that in most if not all states 10 is the youngest that can be criminally responsible for their actions. But i just cant see how a cop can fine someone because somebody else did something wrong, whether your child or otherwise.
But this is a bit off topic now.
There are some here (not you river) that seem to have lived a long life and never bent the rules a little, or quietly staged their own little protest over the erosion of our freedoms.
A bit sad really...