Topo maps for Garmin GPS Nuvi 1350

Submitted: Saturday, Mar 24, 2012 at 11:13
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Hi there,

I wonder if anyone could advise me on GPS maps that would cover
the Anne Beadell Hwy. I heard bad reports about the Garmin Topo maps,
not being very detailed in the center and OZ topo being very limited in that
field as well.
Thanks,
Kurt
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Reply By: Notso - Saturday, Mar 24, 2012 at 11:30

Saturday, Mar 24, 2012 at 11:30
The only other one's I've come across are shonky maps Shonky Maps Download

They are free and are at about 1 to 250,000 resolution.

Not routable.
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Follow Up By: Notso - Saturday, Mar 24, 2012 at 11:32

Saturday, Mar 24, 2012 at 11:32
You might find this link better

Shonky Maps Download page
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Follow Up By: Kurt W - Saturday, Mar 24, 2012 at 11:46

Saturday, Mar 24, 2012 at 11:46
thanks for that, I will give them a try.
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Follow Up By: Notso - Saturday, Mar 24, 2012 at 12:06

Saturday, Mar 24, 2012 at 12:06
I just had a look at mine and the Anne Beadell is shown from Coober Pedy in SA to Yamana in WA then it appears to become the White Cliffs/Yamana Rd across to Laverton.

Good luck!
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Follow Up By: Kurt W - Saturday, Mar 24, 2012 at 15:29

Saturday, Mar 24, 2012 at 15:29
that is very impressive, thanks again.
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Follow Up By: Zebra400 - Saturday, Mar 24, 2012 at 20:43

Saturday, Mar 24, 2012 at 20:43
Comparing the 3 options, Garmin Topo is the worst with the Ann Beadell Hwy not showing until you zoom into the 3km range. It means you have no overview of where you are. I also find that many tracks are missing.

Shonky Maps shows the Ann Beadell at 50km so you can see a lot more, but you have to be in the 50km zoom. Anything larger than that, and you see next to nothing. Also, Shonky Maps is many years old now so the maps wont be up to date as OzTopo.

OzTopo is the most up to date of vector maps for outback Oz.

For general overview of Oz, OzTopo can zoom out to 100km with most main roads showing.

The Ann Beadell doesnt show until the 20km zoom but it does have more detail and 10M contours.

ShonkyMaps contours dont appear until the 2km zoom, so they arent much help.

If I was travelling the Ann Beadell, I would be running Hema maps using OziExplorer on a PDA or Android tablet. The detail of these maps of outback Oz beats vector maps any day.

Laurie
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Follow Up By: Kurt W - Saturday, Mar 24, 2012 at 21:35

Saturday, Mar 24, 2012 at 21:35
Hi Laurie, thanks for your detailed info's, that will certainly help me, to make
a decision.
Kurt
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Follow Up By: Member - Chris & Debbie (QLD) - Saturday, Mar 24, 2012 at 22:01

Saturday, Mar 24, 2012 at 22:01
@Zebra400,
Laurie
Can you change the 'Detail Level' in you gps? I found similar to you but by increasing the detail level to the highest setting all the tracks and contours are visible at all zoom levels. You will find this is also the same if viewing the maps in BaseCamp/Mapsource.

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Follow Up By: Zebra400 - Sunday, Mar 25, 2012 at 09:29

Sunday, Mar 25, 2012 at 09:29
Chris

I have Mapsource set to the highest setting for Map Details. The info I posted previously was based on these highest settings.

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Follow Up By: Zebra400 - Sunday, Mar 25, 2012 at 09:34

Sunday, Mar 25, 2012 at 09:34
In relation to zoom levels, I have discussed this issue with Brian at GPSOz as GPSOz markets OzTopo. He is aware of the zoom levels & the issue of what data to show. The probelm is that the GPS is too slow to load data when there is a lot of data in that location. For example, contours in the Vic high country are very close so a lot of dat is needed to be loaded. But let say across the Ann Beadell there are not many contours.

I had the same problem when travelling the Tanami Road to the Kimberley last year. With all vector maps, I had to zoom in too far to see relevant detail, but at such a high zoom, I could not get an overall picture of where I was, or where I was going.

Laurie
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Follow Up By: Member - Chris & Debbie (QLD) - Sunday, Mar 25, 2012 at 10:44

Sunday, Mar 25, 2012 at 10:44
My apologies Laurie, you are correct on the zoom levels in Mapsource, I should have only mentioned BaseCamp. I have been using BaseCamp Version 3.3.1 and when set to Highest Detail it shows all detail including contours at 30km and below.
I also load 'Shonky Topo Without Contours' and 'Contours Australia' onto the gps that way the contours can be turned on and off as you like to speed up redraw speeds and screen clutter.
Contours Australia also works well with Openmtbmap, which is another free map that shows more tracks than Shonky in the more populated areas.

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Reply By: Rockape - Saturday, Mar 24, 2012 at 12:34

Saturday, Mar 24, 2012 at 12:34
Kurt,
you can buy the maps on sd card that will plug straight into the garmin.
HERE
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Follow Up By: Kurt W - Saturday, Mar 24, 2012 at 15:31

Saturday, Mar 24, 2012 at 15:31
thanks for that, I will be on the phone to them, first thing on Monday morning.
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Reply By: bardenboy - Saturday, Mar 24, 2012 at 18:17

Saturday, Mar 24, 2012 at 18:17
I have just bought the Garmin Topo maps and there are better than the shonlky maps, but then again Shony are free and the garmin cost @220.00

send over a Long/Lat way point and I will send over to you some snap shots of the area.

Dennis
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Follow Up By: Kurt W - Saturday, Mar 24, 2012 at 21:28

Saturday, Mar 24, 2012 at 21:28
Hi Dennis,
I appreciate your the offer. Here is the test for the Garmin Topo:
At 28' 19'44.6" S and 126'57'02.0" E it should show the turnoff to the
crashsite of a twin engine plane, which 8.6km to the north.

thanks again,
Kurt

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Follow Up By: bardenboy - Sunday, Mar 25, 2012 at 17:23

Sunday, Mar 25, 2012 at 17:23
Here are the differences betwen Hema, Garmis Aust Topo and Shonky maps.

If you already have the Garmin GPS use the free Snonky maps, but I will be using the Hema Great Desert Maps the next time I am out that way, I run a 7" in dash GPS with Ozi on it, I am also playing around with a Garmim nuvi 1490, but the details on the Hema maps are a lot better,

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[/img AUST TOPO at 15km]

[IMG]http://i1049.photobucket.com/albums/s391/bardenboy/Topoat2km.jpg[/IMG AUST TOPO at 2km]

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[/img AUST TOPO at 700m]

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[/img Shonky at 15km]


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[/img Shonky at 2km]


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[/img Shonky at 700m ]

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Follow Up By: Kurt W - Sunday, Mar 25, 2012 at 18:06

Sunday, Mar 25, 2012 at 18:06
Hi Dennis
what a difference !!!! Wouldn't it be nice to find a way to get the Hema maps
into the Garmin. Well is there a way ?
I really appreciate the effort you put into this to clear up this matter.
I am sure a lot of readers will benefit from this.
Thanks again,
Kurt
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Reply By: Member - Doug T (NT) - Sunday, Mar 25, 2012 at 07:48

Sunday, Mar 25, 2012 at 07:48
Kurt

The Shonky map is ok, shows a lot of detail, but so does the Garmin Topo, and it will have the Anne Beadell and it will be routable, I had the GT in my earlier Nuvi 760 but had to go with it when I sold it . I would suggest getting a 4gb sd card and run both. and I have provided a link here that you will find handy, the Shonky would go on the SD Card, and you make room on the Units memory for the GT.

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Reply By: Member - res.q.guy (Vic.) - Monday, Mar 26, 2012 at 22:45

Monday, Mar 26, 2012 at 22:45
Hi Kurt
I run a Nuvi (with Contours Aust., Oztop,T4A and Shonky, as well as CN2013) as a street navigator, and use a 7" generic Chinese unit running OziExpCE for off road maps such as the Hema, Spartial Vision, Natmap, Rooftop, Meridian etc etc. As these maps give much better detail than the Nuvi
My unit is:
http://www.dealextreme.com/p/7-0-touch-screen-lcd-win-ce-5-0-gps-navigator-w-bluetooth-fm-av-in-tv-2gb-brazil-maps-tf-card-55681
You can also reprogram them with a menu system to give you a choice of OziExpCE or iGO. i can give you more info if required.
Cheers
Neil
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Follow Up By: Kurt W - Monday, Mar 26, 2012 at 23:16

Monday, Mar 26, 2012 at 23:16
Hi Neil,

you certainly have the GPS side covered for a trip anywhere in Australia.
That Chinese Unit looks great. What exactly would have to be installed
to run the HEMA maps, and where can it be purchased ?
Hema seems to be the best, from what I have seen.
Thanks for your help,
Kurt
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Follow Up By: Member - res.q.guy (Vic.) - Monday, Mar 26, 2012 at 23:25

Monday, Mar 26, 2012 at 23:25
Hi Kurt
Drop me an email at res.q.guy@westnet.com.au
and I can give you all the details.
Cheers
Neil
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