80 series fuel economy

Submitted: Monday, Apr 08, 2002 at 00:00
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I recently purchased a '94 80 series 'Cruiser petrol/gas (4.5L) and have since fitted an ARB bullbar (came with tyre carrier).
I seem to average only around 4.8km/L on gas - even when I'm the only one in it. The gas system has just been serviced, including tappets (not sure of spelling) being serviced. I would be interested to get some comparisons on other people's fuel economy (including comparison to petrol only models). I am considering a hiclone unit ($160) to assist with fuel economy but the hiclone unit seems to be quite controversial. Are they worth the investment (supposed 5-20% increase in fuel economy). Does anyone know of independent tests been carried out on these units? Thanks in advance for any replies.
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Reply By: Nigel - Monday, Apr 08, 2002 at 00:00

Monday, Apr 08, 2002 at 00:00
My father-in-laws 4.2 petrol GQ Patrol gets around 5.5 km/L on the highway. My 3 litre petrol does slightly better, but I think that's due to extractors and 2.5 inch free flow exhaust. I fitted a hiclone and didn't notice a change in economy although it did boost top end power (tested before the exhaust mods).
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Reply By: Joe - Tuesday, Apr 09, 2002 at 00:00

Tuesday, Apr 09, 2002 at 00:00
Damien,

The fuel usage (for gas) is about right – nobody would ever call one of these Tojo engines fuel misers!

As you have noticed, the controversy rages around the use of Hiclones with some people getting good returns from it while others seem to get nothing out of it. I would expect that a sophisticated engine like you 4.5 six would not give you any significant improvement from the fitment of a Hiclone, but I am more than willing to be proved wrong.

One thing you should be aware of is that the 4.5 six cylinder engine will have its life (or at least the life of its cylinder head) reduced to the 300,000 klm mark through the use of LPG. If you are getting close to that mark then you should budget for some expensive work soon!
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Reply By: Fred - Tuesday, Apr 09, 2002 at 00:00

Tuesday, Apr 09, 2002 at 00:00
Damian, that fuel economy sounds about right. It's equivalent to 20.8l/100 or 13.6mpg. You might expect a little better from petrol. I had an FJ55 years ago and around town got 12 mpg and the very best on the highway was 16mpg. The only good thing about it is you'll find it won't vary a whole lot if you have more than you in it!! or even a trailer on the back. Also just a word of warning if you ever intend to do any outback travel - gas can be very scarce - you'll need lots of jerries for long distance outback travel!
Enjoy!
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Follow Up By: Damian - Wednesday, Apr 10, 2002 at 00:00

Wednesday, Apr 10, 2002 at 00:00
Thanks for the responses. While fuel economy is an issue, it's not the be-all-end-all. I bught the truck as a lifestyle decision (ie. to explore this big beautiful country off the tarmac). Thanks for the outback advice on gas. With a trip or two on the cards, it is welcome advice. Seems like the hiclone debate is a hot topic with not much positive going for it. I think I might contact 4WD monthly and ask them to look into it a bit.
Thanks again
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Reply By: Fred - Tuesday, Apr 09, 2002 at 00:00

Tuesday, Apr 09, 2002 at 00:00
Damian, that fuel economy sounds about right. It's equivalent to 20.8l/100 or 13.6mpg. You might expect a little better from petrol. I had an FJ55 years ago and around town got 12 mpg and the very best on the highway was 16mpg. The only good thing about it is you'll find it won't vary a whole lot if you have more than you in it!! or even a trailer on the back. Also just a word of warning if you ever intend to do any outback travel - gas can be very scarce - you'll need lots of jerries for long distance outback travel!
Enjoy!
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Reply By: Bob - Tuesday, Apr 09, 2002 at 00:00

Tuesday, Apr 09, 2002 at 00:00
Damien if fuel economy is important to you I think you've got the wrong vehicle (sorry to be blunt!!) The 80 series are great vehicles but economical on fuel they ain't. The mid size 4wd market is the place to look. The Prado is the best - better performance than the 80 series and half the fuel - expect 9km/litre at least. Probably the only one to avoid is the Pajero as it is quite heavy on fuel.
Cheers
Bob
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Reply By: Rod - Wednesday, Apr 10, 2002 at 00:00

Wednesday, Apr 10, 2002 at 00:00
Damian,
I have a 93 75 series Troopie 4.5lt petrol/gas, its not a aerodynamic as an 80 series. It returns 4.6km/ltr on gas and 5.6km/ltr on petrol (premium).

I have have installed Hiclones in two other previous vehicles that I've had, did not notice any difference in the performance of the vehicle or the pocket.
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Reply By: Austin McDonald - Monday, Apr 22, 2002 at 00:00

Monday, Apr 22, 2002 at 00:00
Damian, I had a 93 80 series running dual fuel (petrol/LPG) until just recently, however it had an arguement with a 4 tonne tip truck and lost. T give you some of my experience, I was getting about 23L/100k on gas and around 18-20 L/100K on petrol. When you consider that to fit the gas tank (115L with 92L usable @ 80% fill) the sub tank has to come out to make way, that you then end up with only a 90L fuel tank. This severly diminishes your range to about 400K on gas and arounr 400 - 450K on petrol.
Someone else replied that you will be up for some expensive repairs to the head around 300k. I can vouch for that. It cost me $1500 and thats at mates rates to get the head refurbished. I also had a Hiclone fitted and would have to say that it was as useless as tits on a bull. I loved the power that it had but I have to say that I am happeir with my Turbo Diesel that I replaced the vehicle with.
Anyway, thats my reply. Hope it is of some help. Happy 4WDing, and see ya in the bush.
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Follow Up By: Damian - Tuesday, Apr 23, 2002 at 00:00

Tuesday, Apr 23, 2002 at 00:00
Hi Austin
Thanks for the reply - seems like the economy is about the mark. I get around 480k per 100 litres of gas.
Regarding head repairs, is the 300k limit on the basis of using an artificial lubricant like Flashlube or running "dry"?
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Reply By: Mike - Thursday, Jun 06, 2002 at 00:00

Thursday, Jun 06, 2002 at 00:00
Damian that's terrible economy!!! less than 14mpg. With a modern engine or diesel you can get MUCH better than that!!!
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