POSITIONING OF "DO NOT OVERTAKE TURNING VEHICLE" SIGN
Submitted: Wednesday, Mar 28, 2012 at 17:36
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Member - Lynton B (QLD)
I have searched the "net" and cannot find the answer. I have purchased stickers of the above sign - size: 2 x 800mm x 75mm. Where can I position these on the rear of my 8m+ caravan so they are legal Australia-wide? I have references for "DO NOT OVERTAKE........." plates which are not relevant for my situation. If I could have actual measurements [with the source of this info] I would be very grateful. Lynton
Reply By: Allan B (Member, SunCoast) - Wednesday, Mar 28, 2012 at 17:57
Wednesday, Mar 28, 2012 at 17:57
Hi Lynton, here is a reference to the NSW regulations and I should think all states would be the same as it is covered by an Australia Standard.
Link
Scroll down to diagram 11.
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Follow Up By: Member - Lynton B (QLD) - Sunday, Apr 01, 2012 at 07:13
Sunday, Apr 01, 2012 at 07:13
Thank you Allan. I had found this reference but did not think it applied to my situation as I had 300 x 75mm stickers rather than plates. However I think the best guide is given by your reference. I have adopted it. Thanks again. Lynton
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Follow Up By: Allan B (Member, SunCoast) - Sunday, Apr 01, 2012 at 08:04
Sunday, Apr 01, 2012 at 08:04
No worries Lynton. Sometimes you just have to make an effort and hope for the best.
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Reply By: bluefella - Wednesday, Mar 28, 2012 at 19:03
Wednesday, Mar 28, 2012 at 19:03
g'day lynton
to put them on your caravan , i think you'll find it is illegal to diplay these signs, there a some trucks get'n around that are also illegal.
cheers blue
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Follow Up By: On Patrol & TONI - Wednesday, Mar 28, 2012 at 19:55
Wednesday, Mar 28, 2012 at 19:55
Blue, Wrong,
check the posts re this subject & you will find that it is illegal NOT to have them if your truck or car & caravan rig exceed 7.5 m length. It is also a liability issue for cornering & negotiating roundabouts without them.
Cheers Colin.
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Follow Up By: On Patrol & TONI - Wednesday, Mar 28, 2012 at 19:57
Wednesday, Mar 28, 2012 at 19:57
Blue, Wrong,
check the posts re this subject & you will find that it is illegal NOT to have them if your truck or car & caravan rig exceed 7.5 m length. It is also a liability issue for cornering & negotiating roundabouts without them.
Cheers Colin.
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Follow Up By: GT Campers - Thursday, Mar 29, 2012 at 14:01
Thursday, Mar 29, 2012 at 14:01
Holden with a box trailer exceeds that, no requirement for NO OVERTAKE signs...?
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Follow Up By: Rockape - Thursday, Mar 29, 2012 at 15:10
Thursday, Mar 29, 2012 at 15:10
Colin,
The rule for the 7.5 metres is for vehicles and trailers over a certain weight.
I can't remember the exact weight but it is up around 10 tonne for a vehicle or a trailer.
Hope your toyo troll is still going
well.
Have a good one,
RA.
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Follow Up By: On Patrol & TONI - Thursday, Mar 29, 2012 at 17:03
Thursday, Mar 29, 2012 at 17:03
RA
TONI is going fine mate, we have done a few long trips with it & all is very good. There was another Patrol done by my mechanic, with the 1HD - FTE in Victoria. I am going to meet its owner on our big trip starting in 2 weeks time & we hope to do a couple of tracks around
Ballarat to compare cars, could be fun. Following that we head up to
Darwin then across to WA for a few months.
Cheers Colin.
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Follow Up By: Rockape - Thursday, Mar 29, 2012 at 20:00
Thursday, Mar 29, 2012 at 20:00
Colin,
Good to hear and what a vehicle. Best of both worlds and you can get parts easily from either manufacturer.
Look out for us in a white troopie that barks with a coromal poptop. The old girl certainly can tell you it has a chevy diesel in it. Straight through mufflers on an n/a engine have attitude. Must be my days from 2 stroke detroit diesels made me love noise.
Have a good trip.
RA.
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Reply By: Fred G NSW - Wednesday, Mar 28, 2012 at 19:42
Reply By: PJR (NSW) - Wednesday, Mar 28, 2012 at 20:23
Wednesday, Mar 28, 2012 at 20:23
Lyndon
How about trying to call the QLD RTA for the official word.
PJ
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Reply By: Kev - Member - Wynnum - Wednesday, Mar 28, 2012 at 20:42
Wednesday, Mar 28, 2012 at 20:42
Hi Lynton,
Have a look at this site
http://www.infrastructure.gov.au/roads/vehicle_regulation/bulletin/pdf/vsb_12.pdf
it is compulsory for vehicles over 10tonnes to have this sign on the rear
For vehicles under 10 tonnes but more that 7.5 metres in length it is not compulsory but may be fitted.
Kev
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Follow Up By: Member - Lynton B (QLD) - Sunday, Apr 01, 2012 at 07:51
Sunday, Apr 01, 2012 at 07:51
Hi Kev. An excellent reference! My sign goes right across the rear which I believe is more useful because I have had cars trying to pass me on the right on when I was on the left of double lanes wanting to turn right at a tight roundabout. Also I was almost crushed myself by a semi wanting to turn right in similar circumstances on a day I was driving just my 4X and paying less attention than I should have. [He was in the left hand lane, wanting to turn right.] Thanks again for the reference. Cheers. Lynton.
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Reply By: lancie49 - Wednesday, Mar 28, 2012 at 23:04
Wednesday, Mar 28, 2012 at 23:04
What's generally fitted to vans is
Class 1
Category 31L
300mm x 100mm self-adhesive
Most truck parts outlets should have stock of the aluminium plate version but they need drill/screws to install.
The self adhesive decals suit the van application better because they eliminate any risk of water ingress.
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Reply By: blown4by - Friday, Mar 30, 2012 at 22:41
Friday, Mar 30, 2012 at 22:41
The heavy goods vehicle rear markers plates are mandatory on trucks and buses (except route service buses) with a GVM exceeding 12 tonnes and trailers with a GTM exceeding 10 tonnes. They are also mandatory on trailers of any GTM when towed behing a heavy vehicles on which the plates are mandatory (because the trailer obscures from view the plates on the towing vehicle). They are permitted on light vehicles also but the Do Not Overtake Turning Vehicle wording should not be used unless the combination exceeds 7.5 in length and when fitted they should be on the left rear (because their purpose is to warn other vehicles not to overtake the combination on the left side when it straddles both lanes when turning left on a dual lane road. Note: The DNOTV sign may be illegal on light vehicles over 7.5m in length in some States.
See:
http://www.infrastructure.gov.au/roads/vehicle_regulation/bulletin/pdf/vsb_12.pdf
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Follow Up By: Member - Lynton B (QLD) - Sunday, Apr 01, 2012 at 07:28
Sunday, Apr 01, 2012 at 07:28
Thank you blown4by. A very useful summary! My sign goes right across the rear which I believe is more useful because I have had cars trying to pass me on the right on when I was on the leftlane of double lanes when I wanted to turn right at a tight roundabout. Also I was almost crushedmyself by a semi wanting to turn right in similar circumstances on a day I was driving just my 4X and paying less attention than I should have. [He was in the left hand lane, wanting to turn right.] Thanks again. I appreciated the time and effort you put into your response. Cheers. Lynton.
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