turbo vs non-turbo troopcarrier
Submitted: Friday, Dec 26, 2003 at 12:33
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victor
I am looking at purchasing a Troopcarrier and I am trying to figure what the advantages and disadvantages of a turbo or non-turbo troopie.
I will be doing some distance on bitumen, carrying a load of gear, as
well as, off the beaten track ie
cape york (
CREB track?), round Aussie camping/working.
My thoughts
Turbo: better fuel economy (does anyone know the difference on this type of vehicle fully loaded),
more power and torque=easier to drive, less gear changing, also this additional power can help to get out of tricky situations
Non-turbo: cheaper purchase price,
simplicity-less to go wrong and easier to fix in out of the way
places,
don't have to buy 2001 year or later to get the standard turbo-factory fitted.
Please comment
regards Victor.
PS Truckster can you please give some much valued feedback
Reply By: Member - Ken - Friday, Dec 26, 2003 at 12:48
Friday, Dec 26, 2003 at 12:48
Victor
Have a look Post Nos: 8780 & 7794 which will give you an idea or two about turbo charging a 'Troopy' and what the fuel consumption is like.
Regards
Ken Robinson
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Follow Up By: victor - Friday, Dec 26, 2003 at 13:15
Friday, Dec 26, 2003 at 13:15
Thanks Ken,
that was quick
regards Victor
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Follow Up By: victor - Friday, Dec 26, 2003 at 14:06
Friday, Dec 26, 2003 at 14:06
Hi Ken,
your fuel consumption figures show an increase in fuel usage after fitting a turbo-I thought the turbo improved efficiency of the engine. It must be user application that makes the difference ie more power=more pedal to the metal.
thanks again
victor
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Follow Up By: Member - Ken - Saturday, Dec 27, 2003 at 00:30
Saturday, Dec 27, 2003 at 00:30
Good Evening Victor
I have to admit that technically I don't know why they use more juice.
However from experience I know that as soon as you go over the 100Kph mark thats when the fuel consumption goes up.
It is a pedal to the metal thing because when passing on the open road at speed you tend to sink the boot to get past as quick as safely possible and if you strike a head wind or hills, it's 'no problem doc' just sink the boot a little further.
Plus if you want to drive it like a car (Ferrari) in the city between lights etc. then you will gobble the juice so to speak.
I also know from experience that my after market turbo Troopy uses very little fuel when kept under 2000 revs and 'walking' through
the desert dunes.
I don't think I will comment on the Factory fitted as opposed to after market turbo's as there is a myriad of things to consider there. Just like trying to choose a wife - its a dangerous path to tread.
Regards
Ken Robinson
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Reply By: Member - DOZER- Friday, Dec 26, 2003 at 14:28
Friday, Dec 26, 2003 at 14:28
Hi Victor
More air into motor, more fuel, more power. The trade off is heaps more torque, not that much more consumption.
If you compared these towing a heavy weight around, the turbos consumption would probably be equal to preturbo or better.
The new factory turbo motor is the way to go if power is whats needed. Better resale aswell as built to cope with the torque.
They run a different clutch and cog box.
Down side is that the diesel is fly by wire....HF radios get interfered with when motor is running, jury is out for
water crossings aswell - we are all sceptical of new technology, but if you look at the semis running round now, they are all electro/diesel, and a b-double electro diesel compared to a semitrailer conventional diesel would return thesame consumption and travel time on a trip, the double carrying alot more.
Hope this helps
Andrewwheredayathinkwer mike?
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Reply By: Bob Y. - Qld - Friday, Dec 26, 2003 at 15:53
Friday, Dec 26, 2003 at 15:53
Victor,
Seasons greetings. We have both n/a and turbo work utes here, and they are like chalk and cheese. The turbo is my preference for most of reasons given above. the economy is as good or better than n/a, but the turbo wins hands down on highway performance, and tractability in the bush - you don't have to use all those ponies under the bonnet, unless you need too.
Only problem with turbo has been front diff repair, under warranty.
The cheaper alternative is to turbo the n/a, but there has been issues with overheating, whereas the factory turbos DON'T overheat. Get a cruise control fitted, and you'l have effortless highway driving.
Hooroo...
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Reply By: Hux - Friday, Dec 26, 2003 at 18:44
Friday, Dec 26, 2003 at 18:44
Well if money is no option get the factory turbo. An excellent motor and if you drive both you won't go back.
The 78/79 series Troopies with the coil fronts will make far more comfortable on road touring vehicles as
well.
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Follow Up By: victor - Saturday, Dec 27, 2003 at 10:54
Saturday, Dec 27, 2003 at 10:54
Thanks all for the informative posts.
Hux, I will be after an ex government at auction vehicle, I don't mind paying an extra grand or so for the turbo, however, availability seems to be the problem-I haven't seen any ex govt turbo Troopies. According to the red book listing the turbo's were available in 2001 onwards so I might have to wait.
regards victor
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Reply By: Hux - Saturday, Dec 27, 2003 at 14:16
Saturday, Dec 27, 2003 at 14:16
Victor,
Qld Police have TD troopies. Saw one the other day all decked out. They look like RV spec with electric windows etc. You could ring them and ask on expected disposal dates for any TD's and also on any that are better than others. Just ring the main switch 07 3364 6464 and ask for the vehicle disposal sections phone number.
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Follow Up By: victor - Saturday, Dec 27, 2003 at 14:22
Saturday, Dec 27, 2003 at 14:22
Hux Baby yo' da man!!
thanks for that info
regards victor
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Reply By: chrisfrd - Monday, Dec 29, 2003 at 11:40
Monday, Dec 29, 2003 at 11:40
Just as an off the cuff thing.
I've seen a Turbo-charged troopie running around SA with an LP gas suppliement system.
I have done some looking around and it appears that there are many advantaces in terms of power and economy of getting a small LP gas system added to a diesel engine... It acts like nitrous to petrols in that it gives a fairly good kick in the pants to the engine and keeps the engine components cleaner and such.
Not a bad way to improve performance. Cheap to do.
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