MQ patrol overheating
Submitted: Sunday, Dec 28, 2003 at 12:30
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mattnicole
We have a 1985 patrol with the sd33 engine it is a turbo with air con. It tends to overheat when it is underload moreso when the aircon is on and the motor is underload on a hot day. We have replaced the radiator,
water pump, thermostat, clutch fan, added a thermo fan, flushed the system everytime something is replaced and the damn thing continues to overheat. Any ideas??? Where do the temp guages generally sit in the MQ's?
Reply By: howesy - Sunday, Dec 28, 2003 at 17:11
Sunday, Dec 28, 2003 at 17:11
Does it boil and spew out
water or is it just that the guage shows hot. A good test is to get a cooking thermometer and stick it in the radiator when you see the thermostat open. You will know when this happens as the
water will all of a sudden start rushing by the opening. as the mecury is rising check the guage and this will give you a starting point as you will knoww that the thermostat is opening at the correct temperature and you will know where that is on the guage and if the guage is faulty. Also was he clutch fan new and what size thermo. if the thermo is less than 16 inches get rid of it its useless a 16 pulls around 2200 cubic feet per min which is minimum. If the clutch is serviceable then overload it with the you beaut oil to lock it up more and finally check that the bottom hose doesn't suck in a little when the revs get up for about a minute as this will restrict flow. other than that have your injector pump timing checked and if it still does it ,,,,, Think seriously about a new car. (only kidding)
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Follow Up By: mattnicole - Monday, Dec 29, 2003 at 18:38
Monday, Dec 29, 2003 at 18:38
The guage just shows hot
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Reply By: Truckster (Vic) - Sunday, Dec 28, 2003 at 20:30
Sunday, Dec 28, 2003 at 20:30
Is the gauge Fubar??
Ive had the same thing with the GQ, replaced everything but the chassis... Try a VDO gauge.
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Reply By: Bob Y. - Qld - Sunday, Dec 28, 2003 at 21:53
Sunday, Dec 28, 2003 at 21:53
Matt,
After you do a check as suggested by Truckster, with a reliable temp gauge, would give some thought to condition of head and block.
Your vehicle is old enough to vote, and if it hasn't had radiator conditioner used regularly, then there could be some bad corrosion in the block.
Don't know if the SD33 is direct or indirect injection, but if indirect, then it could have some cracked combustion chambers. Feel if the head was cracked, it would be overheating all the time.
Happy new year,
Hooroo...
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Reply By: Cumbo - Sunday, Dec 28, 2003 at 22:51
Sunday, Dec 28, 2003 at 22:51
Matt,
As I said in a previous reply tonight I help a mate out that has a radiotor
shop. We talked about your radiotor problem over with Doctor J Walker and the three of us came up with the same conclusion. You have obviously looked at alternative causes and we came up with two suggestions,
1. Youve tried a number of differrent approaches to the problem but we see no suggestion of the sender unit. Have the sender checked by an auto electrician.
2. Don't know where you are but in Queensland a number of MQ's had overheating by a particular brand of radiotor. I think he said Kingstone or si,ilar. The problem is that the radiotor had a large single row tube and the
water flowed too freely not allowing it to be cooled. People changed from these radiotors and the problems was solved.
Anyway, two suggestion if you need any more info contact me.
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Follow Up By: mattnicole - Monday, Dec 29, 2003 at 18:37
Monday, Dec 29, 2003 at 18:37
We have just replaced the oil sender unit today and it still reads the same, maybe slightly cooler but it is a cooler day than it has been. I think the radiator is working ok the pipe coming out of the radiator is not very hot can comfortably hold your hand on it when running at idle. But the problems begin when the car is underload and the turbo is working hard, the temp rises really fast. Have thought about a scoop or is it possible to put in a second oil cooler. Any thoughts???
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Reply By: Brian from Bi-Tron Fuel & Oil Metal Treatment - Monday, Dec 29, 2003 at 18:12
Monday, Dec 29, 2003 at 18:12
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