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10 Para

Heard there are some problems with deisel in Aussie is this so Home For Xmas

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Reply By: Truckster (Vic) - Tuesday, Dec 30, 2003 at 17:33

Tuesday, Dec 30, 2003 at 17:33

DO you mean Diesel?

I agree ;)

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Reply By: zac_sprint - Tuesday, Dec 30, 2003 at 19:21

Tuesday, Dec 30, 2003 at 19:21

Yes this is correct. Australian diesel is of much poorer quality compared to European diesel. As a result some overseas car manufacturers have avoided selling some models of vehicles here because of it.

Nevertheless I intend purchasing a turbo diesel 4wd in the near future- because of the fuel economy and improvements in pollution emissions- question is do I buy the superior Pajero diesel engine or go for the Prado?

Unresolved,
zac

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Follow Up By: Mudguard - Tuesday, Dec 30, 2003 at 19:46

Tuesday, Dec 30, 2003 at 19:46

HI zac, its because of the pollution laws in Aust governing sulpher levels in exhaust emissions ie; parts per million .cheers

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Follow Up By: AndrewX - Tuesday, Dec 30, 2003 at 22:59

Tuesday, Dec 30, 2003 at 22:59

I've been using diesel 4wds for years. Always Toyotas and never any problems. Just as some petrol motors have problems (eg Jackeroos pinging) so do some diesels (eg 3.0l Patrol) As I say many many kms with no problems. Haven't noticed too many trucks having problems with it either!

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Reply By: navaraman - Tuesday, Dec 30, 2003 at 23:22

Tuesday, Dec 30, 2003 at 23:22

I drive a diesel Navara for work and play and no problems at all with it. It can be in short supply in SA due to the refinery closing so it pays to keep a full tank.

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Reply By: Member - Les & Clare (WA) - Tuesday, Dec 30, 2003 at 23:32

Tuesday, Dec 30, 2003 at 23:32

I drive a Bravo 2.5L TD nearly 1,000Km a week , week in and week out and have never any any problems with Deisel. Just make sure you buy good clean fuel from a reputable supplier who has clean storage tanks.

Regards

LesHave beast - will travel!

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Reply By: Brian from Bi-Tron Fuel & Oil Metal Treatment - Tuesday, Dec 30, 2003 at 23:43

Tuesday, Dec 30, 2003 at 23:43

Hi guys,

Sulphur at 50 PPM is an EPA Worldwide requirement. Means clean diesel fuel. Less contaminates. Only there is a problem. The Sulphur was the predominat lubricant in Diesel. A couple of years ago Diesel had more than 2000 PPM Sulphur. Lubrication in Diesel was reasonable. Last year Diesel had 500 PPM Sulphur, Lubrication was very low. As from June this year Sulphur in Diesel is at 50 PPM. Lubrication is so low, that there are engine manufacturers suggesting a good fuel Lubricant be added to Diesel. Even BP know this and are at last adding a "mono ester" fuel lubricant to Diesel. From information I am receiving this is not good enough.

I know you don't want to hear me say this, however, I can help.

Brian 525Bi-Tron Fuel & Oil Metal Treatment

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Reply By: Martyn (WA) - Wednesday, Dec 31, 2003 at 00:18

Wednesday, Dec 31, 2003 at 00:18

10 Para,
We here in Australia are now world leaders in the production of high quality low sulphur diesel. I don't know where Brian is getting this information from about large petro chemical companies advising the use of diesel addtives because of the low lubrication qualities of low sulphur diesel, I'm affliated to a large petro chemical company and I'm not aware of this, I will check. Hilly or Tosser if you read this do you know anything about this? There were issues over East when the 50 ppm diesel was introduced, that was around benzene levels but this was sorted out quick smart at the introduction. The petro chemical companies advised motor companies and also people who overhaul diesel pumps about using the diffrent o-ring materials because of the different sulphur content, but that's it. As I say I'll check.Keep the shiny side up

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Follow Up By: Martyn (WA) - Wednesday, Dec 31, 2003 at 00:25

Wednesday, Dec 31, 2003 at 00:25

Brian,
Apologies I thought you said large petro chemical companies where advising additives, I resind that comment, but I will make enquiries about engine manufacturers suggesting the use of addtives. I will also check on this mono ester additive you talk about. I'm interested..... Keep the shiny side up

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Follow Up By: Member - Ross - Wednesday, Dec 31, 2003 at 09:47

Wednesday, Dec 31, 2003 at 09:47

Marty

I was quite surprised the other day on picking up the Fender after a service at the stealer.

They advised they throw an additive into the tank at each 10k service.

I didn't ask whether it was with regard to sulphur levels or merely an injector cleaner, but there you go. One would expect they would have received a directive from the manufacturer rather than just do it out of the goodness of their hearts.

CheersFidei defensor

Rosco

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Follow Up By: Member - Bradley- Monday, Jan 05, 2004 at 09:59

Monday, Jan 05, 2004 at 09:59

Hey Ross, just because it shows up on the bill, doesn't mean it actually goes in the tank !! Just like the "workshop consumables" extra charges.

A friend had a holden dealer pulling this trick on his commodore ute, Only he just left them the ignition key , not the key for the fuel cap , Apparrently they had a little trouble talking their way around that one. LOL

They do it out of the goodness of their 'bottom line' HEHEHEMoo... everyone knows what a Jackaroo looks like :-)

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Reply By: kiwi2 - Thursday, Jan 01, 2004 at 18:04

Thursday, Jan 01, 2004 at 18:04

Brian - You say that engine manufacturers are saying that additives should be used. This is obviously of some concern to a lot of us. Which manufacturers and where are they saying this? If it's on their websites, can you post the details please?
Thanks.

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